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Luckily, Obama will win; but wake up. A win for McCain would mean a win for Lieberman which would mean

all out war in the Middle East

Re: OT: VP Debate

You know, this is getting pretty frickin' (to use a word) disgusting! All the partisan crap and Palin bashing! What about the more than 10 facts Biden misrepresented? How about Obama not supporting vaccine choice? There are other opinions on this list and we are trying to keep it resectful.

DBB!!

Lin

> >> > > > In a message dated 10/2/2008 8:30:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > christine@ writes:> > > > Say it ain’t so Joe six pack hockey mom, drill baby drill, > maverick....> > > > Hey Vicki- you need to stock up on Mike’s :) that works too.> > > > -> > > > > > LMAO!!!!> > > > MIKES?> > > > VICKI> > > > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life > financial > > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and > information, tips and > > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?> NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)> >>

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Because many of us are sick of the partisan back and forths here would anyone be

interested in joining me in the " Either way we are doomed Party " ? I suppose

that we will

need to come up with a shorter name for this political party. I will take all

suggestions.

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> > > christine@ writes:

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> > > Say it ainâ?Tt so Joe six pack hockey mom, drill baby drill,

> > maverick....

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> > > Hey Vicki- you need to stock up on Mikeâ?Ts :) that works too.

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> > > LMAO!!!!

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> > > MIKES?

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> > > VICKI

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> > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

> > financial

> > > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

> > information, tips and

> > > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

> > NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

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Party Of Other Philosophical Electoral Decisions (POOPED) for short.

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> > > > In a message dated 10/2/2008 8:30:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > > > christine@ writes:

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> > > > Say it ainâ?Tt so Joe six pack hockey mom, drill baby

drill,

> > > maverick....

> > > >

> > > > Hey Vicki- you need to stock up on Mikeâ?Ts :) that works

too.

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> > > > -

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> > > > LMAO!!!!

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> > > > MIKES?

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> > > > VICKI

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> > > >

> > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-

life

> > > financial

> > > > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

> > > information, tips and

> > > > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

> > > NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

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I'm sticking with doomed... Overall... not just on this issue.

Unless things change quickly.

Hopefully not.

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> >>>> > > > Say it ainâ?Tt so Joe six pack hockey mom, drill baby drill,

> >>> > > maverick....

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> >>>> > > > Hey Vicki- you need to stock up on Mikeâ?Ts :) that works too.

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> >>>> > > > LMAO!!!!

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> >>>> > > > VICKI

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> >>>> > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

> >>> > > financial

> >>>> > > > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

> >>> > > information, tips and

> >>>> > > > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

> >>> > > NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

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Me??? What about you??? Go ahead, vote for Oabama and children will continue to be POISONED by vaccines!! He's defifnately PRO VACCINE and PRO PHARMA!

Lin

>> Luckily, Obama will win; but wake up. A win for McCain would mean a win for Lieberman which would mean> all out war in the Middle East> ----- Original Message ----- > -snip-

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Will;

Honestly, I don't think it matters what I think he will do. What matters are their track records. So far, McCain has been adamantly against corporate Big Pharma, has requested Senate hearings on our children's behalf, has been responsive to our concerns and remains so to this day, he went toe to toe with Frist against the Lily Rider (one of the only Republicans who did). He desires to fully fund IDEA. He has spoken out on our behalf. There is probably more. I don't have the answers to your specific questions, but like I said, it doesn't matter what I think. What matters is what is tangilble. I think you pose great questions. I will do everyting I can to get answers for you. Not from me but McCain or his camp. I would very much like to get definitive answers to those same questions. The reason I am so adamant is not because of my personal opinion but becasue of what I have seen, experienced, and heard first hand.

The same is true of Obama. I speak only of what his record has shown so far. He will not go up against pharma. I also know that he remains unresponsive to us, thirty days out, after more than a year and a half of requests, teleconferences with his staff, email correspondences, letters, phone calls, you name it. He has the science. He knows the issues.

If you want to know what my expereinces have led me to believe, I believe McCain is an honorable man of intergrity and character who desires to serve his country and the people, not special interests. I believe he sees this as his last opportunity to truly make a difference by making government work for the people again. I beleive he desires to make a differnce for the good of the country and all her people. That's what I believe.

I would also like to say that I was absolutely non-partisan going into this a year and a half ago. I gave equal opportunity to both sides.

Lin

> > >> > > Luckily, Obama will win; but wake up. A win for McCain would mean a > > win for Lieberman which would mean> > > all out war in the Middle East> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > -snip-> >> >>

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AMEN SISTER!

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> > > > Luckily, Obama will win; but wake up. A win for McCain would

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> > > win for Lieberman which would mean

> > > > all out war in the Middle East

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This conversation goes nowhere. Unless Ron is in the running

again.

Neither Obama nor McCain are likely to fill the void that addresses

our needs any time in the near future. I wish there was commitment

from either party but there is none to be had at this point. Vaccines

will still be recommended. More babies will succumb. This circle will

go on and on for now.

But I think he truth will come out before too long. Kinda like how

once it was said that tobacco was good for you... once upon a time. I

would bet there were a lot of dummies like us back then too. People

raising hell and being ignored. We may not make it in this election

but i think we are used to waiting.

In this family we are united. Lin, I'd say you are a firm Republican.

I have been a Democrat since I was a small child (both parents were

and are Republicans). Both are okay and this is democracy tho for me,

i've been looking for a new country to colonize these last 8 years.

Still, I am on your side and you are on mine on this issue (and

perhaps many others).

I think there is no need to defend one against the other. Neither are

the answer. Obama isn't going to fix our medical miasma because he's

president anymore than Palin will fix it because she's mom to a Down

baby boy. We're still on our own for now.

For now I just console myself that Mc Cain and Obama are both people

that I hope we can reach. I believe they are both good men. Actually,

in the 2000 primaries I was stunned that McCain didn't win. I almost

crossed party lines back then.

We all just want help for our kids. I will take whomever gives that

to me. No matter how selfish that may be.

All I want is my newborn perfect and unvacinnated baby (2babies)

again. None of us can have it. But we can be the thorn in the side of

anyone who still doesn't know better.

At this point, I'm chuffing off Obama or McCain. I'm looking to

fellow mothers and fathers living this life that I do, I don't seem

to have much room for politics.

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> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 10/2/2008 8:30:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight

Time,

> > > > christine@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > Say it ainâ?Tt so Joe six pack hockey mom, drill baby drill,

> > > maverick....

> > > >

> > > > Hey Vicki- you need to stock up on Mikeâ?Ts :) that works too.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > LMAO!!!!

> > > >

> > > > MIKES?

> > > >

> > > > VICKI

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

> > > financial

> > > > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

> > > information, tips and

> > > > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

> > > NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Well said ! All I have to say is what has McCain done for our

kids? What has Obama done? These guys are POLITICIANS who say what

they have to to get elected. I still love Ron and still have his

bumper sticker for prez on my car. But due to the current economy I

really feel that McCain is LOST and instead of telling us what he'll

do he would rather follow the old republican rule of bashing his

opponent and hope that we are dumb enough to listen. I just read

about his role in the Keating scandal of the late '80's (I was in

high school then and didn't know the details of the S & L disaster).

Want to talk about track records---this one kinda sucks! So given the

choice between these 2 guys you betcha I', votin' for OBAMA!!! (Had

to throw in my new folksy way of talkin')

Tina

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> > > > > In a message dated 10/2/2008 8:30:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight

> Time,

> > > > > christine@ writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > Say it ainâ?Tt so Joe six pack hockey mom, drill baby drill,

> > > > maverick....

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey Vicki- you need to stock up on Mikeâ?Ts :) that works

too.

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > LMAO!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > MIKES?

> > > > >

> > > > > VICKI

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

> > > > financial

> > > > > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

> > > > information, tips and

> > > > > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

> > > > NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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