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--- Ziggy <cl-chrisziggy@...> wrote:

> i personally don't believe the vaccines improve the

> health of anyone,

> so IMHO as a starting point they are better of

> without them. but,

> whether or not you vaccinate, the kids will benefit

> from a healthier

> diet in general (and so will you and randy).

> converting to healthier

> eating can be a slow process and doesn't have to be

> one of suffering.

Well said, Chris. We have a healthy diet, and we

don't feel deprived at all. We very much enjoy what

we eat. Our diet didn't used to be so healthy, and

it's a slow process to improve it. We truly don't

like the kind of processed, denatured food we used to

eat, which was the " typical American " type. If you're

used to fast food hamburgers and a sugary, fatty,

additive-laden desert, then yeah, a healthy diet seems

strange, but if you never try to change - I'm sorry if

this seems harsh, but I believe it - you and your

family will eventually pay for that diet in the form

of poor health.

If anything, we enjoy our food more now than we ever

did when we gave no thought to the quality of it.

This week I made a chocolate cake, it was vegan and

most of the ingredients were organic. We enjoyed it

more than any boxed cake mix with hydrogenated oils

and weird artificial flavors and preservatives (and it

took only 10 minutes to mix up). You don't have to

live on carrot sticks and broccoli spears (although I

like those things, always have, and so do all the kids

in my family, my younger cousins and sister).

Obviously we can't convince you to try healthier ways

of eating if you're unwilling, but it really isn't as

difficult or strange as you may think. It just takes

a little learning.

I can't tell you if you should vaccinate to compensate

for the diet, I won't even go there. I can only tell

you what we do (healthy diet most of the time, no vax)

and say that we take great pleasure in our healthy

food and have confidence in our immune systems.

Aubin

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In a message dated 3/22/01 12:34:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

pebblez@... writes:

> I REMEMBER READING HOW SOME OF YOU EAT MICROWAVE DINNERS ALOT. DO YOU

> SAVE THE LITTLE PLASTIC PLATES? IT SAYS NOT TO, BUT, I WAS TOLD YOU

> COULD.

> I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAD ANY TIPS ON HOW I CAN LEARN BETTER

>

I don't save the plastic plates only because I save enough things. ;-)

I eat 3 meals a day. I try and eat plenty of fruits and vegetables. For a

while I wasn't eating breakfast and only had coffee which I stopped doing

because I wound up being extremely hungry during the day.

For breakfast besides having coffee I like to have a small bowl of cereal

with or without fruit, or two pieces of bread with a small amount of butter

or I have yogurt.

On the weekends I splurge and have 2 eggs with toast along with my coffee and

juice.

For lunch I like to have either a sandwich, bowl of soup or a salad.

For dinner I like to have a meal that consists of one meat item, two veggies

or I have a sandwich, or a bowl or soup or a pasta dish.

After dinner I have like to have a small snack which I snack on either fruit,

bowl of cereal or yogurt or some goldfish crackers or two cookies.

When I feel up to it and the weather is nice I get my exercise by doing

walking.

I used to go to fast food places once in awhile and noticed from not going

there I have lost a considerable amount of weight. My skin is alot clearer.

Also I have noticed I don't get those headaches, etc. I was getting which I

think was a reaction to the way certain fast food places prepare their foods.

Helen

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I will beat the drum a thousand times over on sodium levels. I cut my

sodium level to 1000mg a day to start and now average 2000 a day.

No special diets except reading lots of labels. For instance Contadina

tomato sauce has much less sodium then Hunts tomato sauce. Cooked spinach

has more sodium than raw spinach...etc.

ASK YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE ANY DIET!!!

I went low sodium and dropped the weight and the bp (the blood pressure not

the big people...hehe).

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In a message dated 3/22/2001 4:42:12 PM Central Standard Time,

HelenJW@... writes:

> <I don't save the plastic plates only because I save enough things.>

I think that Gladware has divided entree dishes in their storage container

line. I've used the other ones for some time and really like them.

{s}

luthien

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In a message dated 3/23/01 1:38:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kitties77@... writes:

> ASK YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE ANY DIET!!!

> I went low sodium and dropped the weight and the bp (the blood pressure not

> the big people...hehe).

> Karin

>

>

>

>

Yes, you should speak to your doctor before you diet and see what he/she

recommends.

I'm also a label reader and watch my sodium intake. People would be

surprised if they read the labels on some of these foods out there especially

the ones that are low fat because they are usually higher in sodium.

One thing that I have eliminated is soda. I just drink milk, juice or water

which is a lot healthier for me and less pound putting on than soda plus it

doesn't make you release gas. :-)

Helen

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From my experience I don't think diet is what anyone should do. Because it

gives the feeling that " I'm gonna eat less for a while to get rid of the weight

then go back to what I normally do " . It's temporary, not long term. Besides

all that when you diet and eat A LOT less, your body goes into " starvation mode "

where it stores EVERYTHING you eat, because it doesn't think it's going to get

anything else (remember it doesn't know your " dieting and trying to loose

weight " it just knows not a lot of food is coming in).

Plus if you don't eat enough (like anorexia just to say) your body looses

weight, sure, but it " eats " your muscles first before your fat. Just think of

all your muscles you have. Thats why people who are anorexic die of heart

failure, your heart is a muscle. Grim sounding I know, but I have friends who

are anorexic, and they have such an issue with physical apperance that they

forget about their health. And your health should be the reason to maintain a

good weight. Not to fit in a size " 0 " .

What should be done is an over all different way of eating forever. I'm not

saying deprive yourself, not at all! I could never ever give up Mc.D's French

Fries...mmm.

For example what I do, I eat most of my food early in the day, so a good sized

breakfast a pretty large lunch (I treat it like my dinner), then a very small

dinner, but I don't consider it small since I'm still full from Lunch. Then of

course you excercise, excercise is THE KEY! Excercise doesn't have to require

gym clothing. Walking, aerobics, dancing, jogging, or just climbing stairs of a

building tackle football with a friend:-) kidding...sort of...

I'm not too crazy about frozen meals, since they have so much chemicals and

preservatives, some even with MSG. Fresh foods, whole foods, and staying away

from soda is good to, because it makes you look bloated with all that

carbonation. Eat slowly too, it's amazing how much bigger our eyes are then our

stomach when we are hungry.

I think I'm all out of suggestions (most from my Doctor)...Hope this helps,

because it's helped me A LOT:-)

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I don't cook in a microwave (actually I cook a sweet potato), but that's about

it. I either eat raw or stir-fry my sprouts. Or make them in a pattie, which I

either put in a pan or bake them.

I haven't cooked in a microwave in YEARS.

but I didn't know that it destroys nutrients. Why does it do that?

Melody

healthy eating

I have noticed that there is a differance in eating patterns on this

site,which is great,yet everyone loves sprouts. I also wonder how many

of you us a microwave??I gave mine away,I didnt know that a microwave

destroys the foods nutrients. Any thoughts on this?

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We do not use a Microwave!  Yes the way the food is heated harms if not kills

nutrients in my opinion.  In reading I have done from several I will say Healthy

eating/living Dr.s they say get rid of the Microwave.  I try not to have

leftovers because reheating does destroy more nutrients.  When we have

leftovers, I either heat the food on a plate on top of a pot of simmering water,

or a bowl in the same manner.  I actually put a bowl in my steamer basket the

other day and put the water in the pan and it worked fine.

Smyrna, TN

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Subject: healthy eating

Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 3:24 PM

I have noticed that there is a differance in eating patterns on this

site,which is great,yet everyone loves sprouts. I also wonder how many

of you us a microwave??I gave mine away,I didnt know that a microwave

destroys the foods nutrients. Any thoughts on this?

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Wow, thanks for the great suggestion.

I have a steamer also.

Melody

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Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 3:24 PM

I have noticed that there is a differance in eating patterns on this

site,which is great,yet everyone loves sprouts. I also wonder how many

of you us a microwave??I gave mine away,I didnt know that a microwave

destroys the foods nutrients. Any thoughts on this?

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I don't use mine either except for every once and a great while. I've heard

from the alternative medical community that not only does it destroy

nutrients but it changes the chemical makeup. I read a story online that if

you boil water in the microwave and then (after cooling) use it to water

seeds that they will not grow. I've not repeated this test myself so I

can't say if it's true.

Lorri

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Subject: healthy eating

I have noticed that there is a differance in eating patterns on this

site,which is great,yet everyone loves sprouts. I also wonder how many

of you us a microwave??I gave mine away,I didnt know that a microwave

destroys the foods nutrients. Any thoughts on this?

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I have a question about the sprouting of various beans. I've been doing this

for about 2 months now with great results.

But..... when I rinse and drain them (can I use the salad spinner to do this).

It would realy get them drier.

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes them to

sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good rinse and when I'm

draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE SALAD SPINNER and then put

them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse) that my

alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and storing them in the

fridge.

I was just wondering if you can do the same with the beans and lentils. I'm

thinking " what if putting beans and lentils in the salad spinner might hurt the

beans or lentils?? that spinning them might do some damage or crush them, or

SOMETHING??

So do any of you salad spinning users ever do the final drain in your salad

spinner? (for the beans and lentils, I mean).

Thanks much

Melody

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CRANBERRY BEANS!!!!! BIG QUESTION ABOUT THESE.

Yesterday I went to my local supermarket and where all the beans in packets are,

well, there were these cranberry beans. Not Goya by the way. A brand named Jack

Rabbit.

There are photos of cranberry beans all over the internet (light colored beans

with stripes on them).

These are the beans that were in the package.

So I said to myself " you can sprout these, just do the overnight soaking (like I

do with my other beans).

So this morning, I go on the internet to see more info about Cranberry beans and

I read

" These must be shelled before cooking " .

What are they talking about? I didn't have to shell the black turtle beans.

They sprouted just fine, and I stir fry them.

I just looked at the second day of my craberry beans (I rinsed and drained them

very well) they are beginning to start a splitting process, with a litle sprout

inside.

Can I stir fry these? I'm not sure what it means that I have to SHELL THESE

BEFORE COOKING.

What shell are they talking about? these are not dried cranberries by the way.

If someone can please tell me what I can do with these cranberry beans,

(especially about shelling them if I have to), I'd appreciate it.

I don't know if these are shelled or not. They look exactly like the photos of

cranberry beans that are posted on all the sprout pages. It just says " you must

shell these before cooking " .

can someone please explain this?

Thanks much!!

Melody

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Ok still new and on my first batch of sprouting.  I have been rinsing and

letting the water drain out of the top of my jar.  I thought we were supposed to

wait untill the last rinse to use the salad spinner.  some please confirm. 

Thanks!

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes them to

sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good rinse and when I'm

draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE SALAD SPINNER and then put

them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse) that my

alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and storing them in the

fridge.

 

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See, that's what I want to know. I have only been using the salad spinner after

the last rinse (FOR MY ALFALFA).

I want to know if I can do this for my Beans Peas an lentils. I sprout them all

together and I know you are not supposed to put wet stuff in the refrigerator.

So I'm asking if it's okay to use the salad spinner on the beans peas and

lentils.

Also, during the sprouting process, when the jar is filled with sprouts (but not

yet ready to be harvested), can I do the salad spinning thing? Because they wind

up in a big blob in my jar and I have to go in and separage them.

I gather spinning would not harm them too much (during the sprouting time, I

mean).

Melody

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Ok still new and on my first batch of sprouting. I have been rinsing and

letting the water drain out of the top of my jar. I thought we were supposed to

wait untill the last rinse to use the salad spinner. some please confirm.

Thanks!

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes them to

sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good rinse and when I'm

draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE SALAD SPINNER and then put

them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse) that my

alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and storing them in the

fridge.

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Melody, I can tell that you have never had a garden. Cranberry beans,

like other beans grow in a pod (or shell). There are several bean seeds

in the pod, depending what kind of bean it is. When the instructions say

" must be shelled before cooking, they are talking about removing the bean

seed from the pod (shell). You heard the term. 'shelling peas'. That

means that you are removing the seed or the green pea from it's shell.

The beans that you buy in the store have already been shelled for you.

You are not going to get the same germination rate from seeds in the

grocery store as you will from seeds that you buy that are meant for

sprouting, because the machinery that shells the beans will damage some.

However, this does not make them unfit to eat as beans. Google 'bean pod'

and see what a bean pod looks like.

ew

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:07:21 -0500

CRANBERRY BEANS!!!!! BIG QUESTION ABOUT THESE.

Yesterday I went to my local supermarket and where all the beans in

packets are, well, there were these cranberry beans. Not Goya by the

way. A brand named Jack Rabbit.

There are photos of cranberry beans all over the internet (light

colored beans with stripes on them).

These are the beans that were in the package.

So I said to myself " you can sprout these, just do the overnight

soaking (like I do with my other beans).

So this morning, I go on the internet to see more info about

Cranberry beans and I read

" These must be shelled before cooking " .

What are they talking about? I didn't have to shell the black turtle

beans. They sprouted just fine, and I stir fry them.

I just looked at the second day of my craberry beans (I rinsed and

drained them very well) they are beginning to start a splitting

process, with a litle sprout inside.

Can I stir fry these? I'm not sure what it means that I have to SHELL

THESE BEFORE COOKING.

What shell are they talking about? these are not dried cranberries by

the way.

If someone can please tell me what I can do with these cranberry

beans, (especially about shelling them if I have to), I'd appreciate

it.

I don't know if these are shelled or not. They look exactly like the

photos of cranberry beans that are posted on all the sprout pages. It

just says " you must shell these before cooking " .

can someone please explain this?

Thanks much!!

Melody

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Melody, you do not want to put your sprouts in the spinner until you are

ready to store them. The reason you rinse is to freshen the sprouts, or

give them a drink of water, just as you would plants in your garden or

house plants. You drain them so that the aren't standing in water. If

they stand in water, they might rot. But you don't want them to be too

dry. Spinning them will make them too dry and they will go bad.

ew

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:20:53 -0500

I have a question about the sprouting of various beans. I've been

doing this for about 2 months now with great results.

But..... when I rinse and drain them (can I use the salad spinner to

do this). It would realy get them drier.

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes

them to sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good

rinse and when I'm draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE

SALAD SPINNER and then put them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse)

that my alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and

storing them in the fridge.

I was just wondering if you can do the same with the beans and

lentils. I'm thinking " what if putting beans and lentils in the salad

spinner might hurt the beans or lentils?? that spinning them might do

some damage or crush them, or SOMETHING??

So do any of you salad spinning users ever do the final drain in your

salad spinner? (for the beans and lentils, I mean).

Thanks much

Melody

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When you sprout in jars, geting a tangled mess is a given, because you

change the orientation or the seedlings every time you rinse and the

sprout never know which way is up. So they just grow. You can gently

separate them when you rinse, but you are still going to have a blob.

Maybe you are starting too many seeds at a time. And again, no on the

spinner, only when you are ready to harvest.

ew

Re: healthy eating

Ok still new and on my first batch of sprouting. I have been rinsing

and letting the water drain out of the top of my jar. I thought we

were supposed to wait untill the last rinse to use the salad spinner.

some please confirm. Thanks!

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes

them to sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good

rinse and when I'm draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE

SALAD SPINNER and then put them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse)

that my alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and

storing them in the fridge.

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What would I do without my dear EW:

I googled unshelled cranberry beans and boy did I get a lesson. Photos and

everything. I learned ALL ABOUT CRANBERRY beans.

Now here's another thing that you can enlighten me on. I thought I was buying

cranberries when I bought the cranberry beans. My friend said " no, can't be,

cranberries are a fruit, not a bean "

so I said " but the package said Cranberry Beans " .

I've seen fresh cranberries in packages. I gather these are the tart ones. I'm

thinking, cranberry pie, cranberry sauce??

So what is the difference between a cranberry bean and a regular cranberry?

And yes, I've NEVER had a garden. but I'm determined to learn all I can learn

from you guys!!

lol

and thanks much. Melody

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Ok still new and on my first batch of sprouting. I have been rinsing

and letting the water drain out of the top of my jar. I thought we

were supposed to wait untill the last rinse to use the salad spinner.

some please confirm. Thanks!

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes

them to sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good

rinse and when I'm draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE

SALAD SPINNER and then put them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse)

that my alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and

storing them in the fridge.

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Well, Melody, I guess us old guys are good for something. The cranberry

bean was named for its color. It is not the cranberry that cranberry

sauce is made of. Your friend is wrong however, in that the bean is the

'fruit' (actually the pod is) of the bean bush. The difference between a

fruit and a vegetable is: Fruit is the result of a plant that flowers.

ie; apples, tomatoes, beans, etc. Each of these has seeds inside.

Vegetables are the part of the plant where the energy is stored: beets,

carrots, turnips. etc.So the English language is very confusing. We call

'squash' a vegetable, but it is a fruit, because it has seeds. The United

States Government says legally that a tomato is a vegetable, but

horticultural says its a fruit. I guess those Master Gardener classes

paid off after all.

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Ok still new and on my first batch of sprouting. I have been rinsing

and letting the water drain out of the top of my jar. I thought we

were supposed to wait untill the last rinse to use the salad spinner.

some please confirm. Thanks!

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes

them to sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good

rinse and when I'm draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE

SALAD SPINNER and then put them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse)

that my alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and

storing them in the fridge.

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On 1/5/09, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

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> The United

> States Government says legally that a tomato is a vegetable, but

> horticultural says its a fruit.

" Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting

it in a fruit salad. "

Sparrow

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Sparrow, that's beautiful. I'm going to steal it.

ew

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:25:34 -0700

On 1/5/09, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

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> The United

> States Government says legally that a tomato is a vegetable, but

> horticultural says its a fruit.

" Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting

it in a fruit salad. "

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On 1/5/09, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

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> Sparrow, that's beautiful. I'm going to steal it.

Please do! I stole it from someone else, myself. I'm considering

designing a cross-stitch sampler with that as the motto and framing it

behind glass to hang in the kitchen. :-)

Sparrow

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Hi Lee:

We don't have any community gardens that I know of near where I live. And we

don't drive. I will ask around though. What a neat idea!!!

thanks for the suggestion.

Melody

P.S. I now know that a cranberry is a fruit and a cranberry bean is a bean.

lol

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Sparrow.

I love the quote!!!

melody

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On 1/5/09, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote:

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> The United

> States Government says legally that a tomato is a vegetable, but

> horticultural says its a fruit.

" Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting

it in a fruit salad. "

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Well, a cucumber has seeds inside. Is that a fruit also?

Melody

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Ok still new and on my first batch of sprouting. I have been rinsing

and letting the water drain out of the top of my jar. I thought we

were supposed to wait untill the last rinse to use the salad spinner.

some please confirm. Thanks!

Smyrna, TN

US Zone 6b

And if I can't do the salad spinner for the 3 or so days it takes

them to sprout, then when I have the last day, and I give them a good

rinse and when I'm draining them....well, THEN CAN I PUT THEM IN THE

SALAD SPINNER and then put them in the fridge.

I notice that when I do my alfalfa this way (after the final rinse)

that my alfalfa is much drier before putting them in a bowl and

storing them in the fridge.

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