Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 I guess I am confused. We hear over and over again that Palin does not believe in environmental issues. For example, she is reported to not believe in a link between human-caused emissions and global warming. Do we really think that just because she has a child with a genetic disorder (and hence special needs) that she will believe that the environment and toxins has caused this autism epidemic? I just really see it as apples and oranges. I can see that she might be a fighter for special needs but I don't think there is any chance that she would fight our environmental fight. She might be there to help with education and all the other gaps in our services. And even if McCain is appearing to be on our side, he has now stated that Palin will be the " maverick " assigned to the special needs population. So even if McCain is on board, he won't be the one pushing our issues. And in my opinion, we have enough people going through the motions...we need someone who is going to be looking for the real answers. And that person is going to have to be open to looking at environmental causes. Palin is not that person. Anyway, that is my two cents. I have no choice but to vote for the folks who are going to help (or atleast not hurt) our economy. We need to get my husband's job (computer programmer) back from his underpaid overseas replacement before I can do much more about my son's autism. Right now I have to focus on our house payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Wow- this is the best thing I’ve read in a LONG time. Thanks for sharing. - I was in Wasilla recently. When Palin was the mayor, she inherited a debt-free town and left it $22M in the hole…That is about $2,500.00 for every man, woman, and child in the town – oddly, that’s about the same number as the bail-out left the country. I would like to see someone who spends the money to raise up the people of this country, rather than the corporations which endeavor to crush us with low wages and benefits. I may have voted for McCain, but with Palin as his running-mate, there is no way. Any woman who either lies about her child’s parentage or is so irresponsible with a high-risk pregnancy does not command respect in my book; never mind pushing a shot-gun marriage between two children because they made a poor decision. I have no issue with others’ morals, mores, ideals, and belief being divergent with my own, but I draw the line at their trying to enforce their views upon me. Just because I want my children to remain chaste until marriage does not mean I wish them to be ignorant about their bodies and sex. Just because I would never choose to abort a child does not mean that others should be denied this right. Just because I carry a gun does not mean I will choose a VP who knows how to use one. Just because I have strong religious beliefs doesn’t mean I want a zealot as the leader of my country. I resent any campaign that takes for granted that just because I am a registered party member that I will blindly vote for their candidates. I detest the mudslinging attacks aired as if they are the whole truth. I especially hate that a campaign would presume to discount my intelligence by airing sound bites full of catch phrases with absolutely no content and assume that because I heard good buzz words this is enough to buy my vote; I can read, I do research, I do not live in an ivory tower, and I have the ability to question. I look forward to a world where we can live as one people. Race, religion, wealth, and ideology are individual choices and opportunities; but respect and “brotherly” love should be mandatory and basic human necessities such as dignity, complete health care, plenty of clean water and food, shelter, and quality education should be guaranteed. The amount of wealth held in the greedy fists of this country’s wealthiest citizens is appalling, especially where it is earned at human cost; corporations and fat cats should pay their fair share of taxes not be given shelter from responsibility to support the nation that made them rich. I am so over the lobbyists owning the government. I am over the government eliminating the very freedoms this country was founded upon. I don’t want to be forced to flee my community to hide in the wilderness in order to avoid incarceration in one of the many internment camps already built across our nation just because I choose the road less traveled and have the capacity for independent thought. I don’t want my children to inherit ridiculous debt and a world too polluted to support their health. Bridgette - Ditto! Liz P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Ditto. Well said. Miriam christine wrote: > > > Wow- this is the best thing I’ve read in a LONG time. > > Thanks for sharing. > > - > > > > > > > > I was in Wasilla recently. When Palin was the mayor, she inherited > a debt-free town and left it $22M in the hole…That is about > $2,500.00 for every man, woman, and child in the town – oddly, > that’s about the same number as the bail-out left the country. I > would like to see someone who spends the money to raise up the > people of this country, rather than the corporations which endeavor > to crush us with low wages and benefits. > > I may have voted for McCain, but with Palin as his running-mate, > there is no way. Any woman who either lies about her child’s > parentage or is so irresponsible with a high-risk pregnancy does not > command respect in my book; never mind pushing a shot-gun marriage > between two children because they made a poor decision. > > I have no issue with others’ morals, mores, ideals, and belief being > divergent with my own, but I draw the line at their trying to > enforce their views upon me. Just because I want my children to > remain chaste until marriage does not mean I wish them to be > ignorant about their bodies and sex. Just because I would never > choose to abort a child does not mean that others should be denied > this right. Just because I carry a gun does not mean I will choose > a VP who knows how to use one. Just because I have strong religious > beliefs doesn’t mean I want a zealot as the leader of my country. > > I resent any campaign that takes for granted that just because I am > a registered party member that I will blindly vote for their > candidates. I detest the mudslinging attacks aired as if they are > the whole truth. I especially hate that a campaign would presume to > discount my intelligence by airing sound bites full of catch phrases > with absolutely no content and assume that because I heard good buzz > words this is enough to buy my vote; I can read, I do research, I do > not live in an ivory tower, and I have the ability to question. > > I look forward to a world where we can live as one people. Race, > religion, wealth, and ideology are individual choices and > opportunities; but respect and “brotherly” love should be mandatory > and basic human necessities such as dignity, complete health care, > plenty of clean water and food, shelter, and quality education > should be guaranteed. The amount of wealth held in the greedy fists > of this country’s wealthiest citizens is appalling, especially where > it is earned at human cost; corporations and fat cats should pay > their fair share of taxes not be given shelter from responsibility > to support the nation that made them rich. > > I am so over the lobbyists owning the government. I am over the > government eliminating the very freedoms this country was founded > upon. I don’t want to be forced to flee my community to hide in the > wilderness in order to avoid incarceration in one of the many > internment camps already built across our nation just because I > choose the road less traveled and have the capacity for independent > thought. I don’t want my children to inherit ridiculous debt and a > world too polluted to support their health. > > Bridgette - Ditto! > > Liz P > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 I have compared Obama and McCain on every single issue. I compare them from fair and impartial resources not slanted blogs or on the word of each other. You should do the same. To not, is dangerous. http://factcheck.org/ If you care to search for truth. Lin >> THANK YOU CHRISTINE!> -snip- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 > > ok, so I want research and a cure for Autism, espcially for those already affected and those children and families who in the future will not have to bear our burdens. HOWEVER, for those of us who already have children damaged beyond the point where a 100% recovery is possible; has either candidate spoke of asssistance with adult living, housing, medical needs etc for those affected by Autism specifically?? This is a question for this knowledgable group. Please help, b/c although I do follow the candidates, I am busy working and taking care of my son, therefore, have not heard all info from both sides. I'm sure most of you can relate. Diane > " And finally, you know those special needs families, I --- you know, > after a debate you always kind of wish you had said something. And one > thing that I wanted to say was that --- in our town hall meetings we > have lots of families show up with children that have autism, and other > special needs families. Obviously Palin wants to take on that task > of helping relieve the burden, find what's causing autism, find a cure > for it. " > > There is a transcript here: > *http://tinyurl.com/4yqfcb > * > > - Will > > Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin, McCain said, > > without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin to work on > > autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he said " cure " and I > > believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a link to the > > interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you didn't realize > > what he said!!! It was wild! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 To see why neither health plan will work: [http://tinyurl.com/3lanby] It all goes back to pharma and the medical industry! Lin P.S. I'll taqke my chances on the rebate check where at least I have a choice! Maybe I can actually see a DAN! for my child!!! >> THANK YOU CHRISTINE!> > I don't think people (low info voters especially) actually COMPARE> what Obama's health care plan is and what McCain's actual so-called> health plan means!-snip- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 HOW THE MCCAIN PLAN BENEFITS YOU Better Than "Members of Congress": Under the McCain Plan, your employer can provide you with health insurance as good as a "Member of Congress", and you would pay no more in taxes - regardless of your tax bracket. In fact, you would have some additional money left over from the McCain tax credit to put in a health savings account. View the chart below to see what your tax savings would be. Income Tax Liability McCain Tax Credit Total Tax Savings 10% Bracket(Up to $ 15,650) $1,200 ($12,000 * 10%) $5,000 + $3,800 15% Bracket($15,650 - 63,700) $1,800 ($12,000 * 15%) $5,000 + $3,200 25% Bracket($63,700 - 128,500) $3,000 ($12,000 * 25%) $5,000 + $2,000 28% Bracket($128,500 - 195,850) $3,360 ($12,000 * 28%) $5,000 + $1,640 33% Bracket($195,850 - 349,700) $3,960 ($12,000 * 33%) $5,000 + $1,040 35% Bracket($349,700 and over) $4,200 ($12,000 * 35%) $5,000 + $800 THE TRUTH ABOUT THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE PLAN Barack Obama's Plan Continues The Push Toward Government-Run Healthcare: The Obama plan will create a brand new government-run health plan at the cost of $243 billion a year - a financial burden of more than $3,000 a year on American families.[3] Barack Obama's Plan Will Harm Employer Coverage: The Obama plan includes a $179 billion a year employer mandate.[4] The mandate requires employers to either provide "meaningful" coverage or pay a tax towards the government plan.[5] Faced with tough economic conditions and rising health costs this creates a clear incentive for employers to drop coverage and move families into the new government plan. A Lewin Group study which examined a similar employer mandate combined with a national plan, like the Obama plan, concluded that almost 52 million individuals would lose their pri vate employer coverage.[6] To maintain their competitive edge, others employers will follow - spelling the demise of the employer coverage system. Barack Obama's Plan Will Damage Private Coverage: The government-run plan will have a clear advantage over private insurance since it will be subsidized by American taxpayers. A recent analysis of both plans by the nonpartisan CATO Institute concluded that the Obama government-run plan will be able to "keep its premiums artificially low... since it can turn to the U.S. Treasury to cover any shortfalls" resulting in "undercutting the private market."[7] According to Wall Street Journal, the goal of the Obama plan "...like HillaryCare in the 1990s, is to displace current private coverage and switch people to the default government option."[8] [1] CBS, CBS E vening News, "The Truth About McCain and Insurance Taxes," 9/15/08[2] The Washington Post Website, http://voices.washingtonpost.com/factchecker/2008/09/four_pinocchios_for_bidens_tax.html, Accessed 10/3/08[3] Feldman et al. "Impact of Barack Obama 2008 Health Reform Proposal," HSI Network, LLC., 8/21/08[4] Feldman et al. "Impact of Barack Obama 2008 Health Reform Proposal," HSI Network, LLC., 8/21/08[5] http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf, Accessed 10/3/08[6] http://www.sharedprosperity.org/hcfa/lewin.pdf, Accessed 10/3/08[7] Tanner, "A Fork in the Road: Obama, McCain, and Health Care," CATO Institute, 7/29/08[8]"Obama's Health-Care Tipoff," The Wall Stre et Journal, 8/21/2008>> TO my LAST post I also wanted to add this VIDEO for all to SEE - great> health care ad!> -snip- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 I second that ! I can't wait until the election is over and we can all focus our attention on our kids! I hate that people are so wrapped up in their candidate that everything becomes an arguement. It gets bitter and gets us know where. No matter what anyone on this list says I am still voting for the guy I said I would vote for 3 months ago, for many reasons. It cannot be a one issue vote--we need to look at the big picture. To me McCain is clueless, even with his 25 years of experience. His campain is going in a million different directions and he claimed months ago to not go negative and yet that is all I hear from both him and Palin--negative talk. WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING ON DOING TO HELP THIS ECONOMY?!?!? If I have to sit through another day of hearing that Obama is a terrorist I will literally go insane. Tina > >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Politics are not that simplisitc-never have been > >>> > > I believe that the majority of voters in this country have already made > up > >>> > > their minds--including most on this list- > >>> > > and one video isn't going to change it. > >>> > > M > >>> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 YEA, and if you took the time to read MY links it ALSO REFERENCES your FACTCHECK.ORG link! > > > >> From: Maureen York yorkm25@ > > > >> Subject: Re: Hannity interview last night > > > >> To: EOHarm > > > >> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:41 AM > > > >> > > > >> That was great to see. McCain talks about it about 3 min into > > it. I was > > > >> going to vote for them, and I still am, but hearing him talk > > about finding > > > >> out what is causing it makes me very happy. Also, I 'd like to > > say, I > > > >> believe him. He has nothing to lose by bringing the truth out. > > He doesn't > > > >> have to worry about future employment they way Obama does. I > > think his age > > > >> serves a purpose here. His vision for the country includes that > > he might not > > > >> be here that much longer. I don't think personal gain is what he > > is thinking > > > >> of. I think he is concerned about Autism because he knows what > > it will mean > > > >> for the country if the rates continue to increase at the rates > > that have in > > > >> the last 10 years. I'm not trying to say I am right so I don't > > want to > > > >> argue I'm just telling you what I think. > > > >> M > > > >> > > > >> Hannity interview last night > > > >> > > > >> Shortly into interview last night with McCain and Palin, McCain > said, > > > >> without prompting or being questioned, that he wanted Palin to > > work on > > > >> autism...I don't remember the exact words, but he said " cure " and > I > > > >> believe mentioned insurance. I see someone has posted a link to > the > > > >> interview, but I thought you might not watch it if you didn't > realize > > > >> what he said!!! It was wild! > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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