Re: McCain and Obama on Autism

[Guest guest]

And thanks to you, ! You've played a huge part in this.

Aasa

Subject: McCain and Obama on AutismTo: EOHarm Received: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 5:50 AM

Never has a childhood disorder had such a prominent role in a national campaign.

Hats off to you, parents!DK

MCCAIN:

She'll be my partner. She (Palin) understands reform. And, by the way, she also understands special-needs families. She understands that autism is on the rise, that we've got to find out what's causing it, and we've got to reach out to these families, and help them, and give them the help they need as they raise these very special needs children.

OBAMA:

I think it's very commendable the work she's done on behalf of special needs. I agree with that, . I do want to just point out that autism, for example, or other special needs will require some additional funding, if we're going to get serious in terms of research. That is something that every family that advocates on behalf of disabled children talk about. And if we have an across-the-board spending freeze, we're not going to be able to do it.

MCCAIN:

And I just said to you earlier, town hall meeting after town hall meeting, parents come with kids, children -- precious children who have autism. Palin knows about that better than most. And we'll find and we'll spend the money, research, to find the cause of autism. And we'll care for these young children. And all Americans will open their wallets and their hearts to do so.

[Guest guest]

I think the subject came up because it’s one of the few things Palin can say she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about autism than any parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY parent he has met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child with autism would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism. Right?

Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question. No one asked the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an Obama rally with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.

I’m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special needs and special education). But, I think it doesn’t really mean THAT much. Just a losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP’s experience, because he had not much else to say. Plus, he’s trying to get votes from the Special Needs community.

Historically, Republicans don’t fund special education or special needs programs. They are for smaller gov’t and less hand-outs. Look at what Bush has done over the last year.

There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and autism/education. They are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of course we need help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or environmental triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH work to be done.

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MOST importantly…

If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then why didn’t autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that matter, in any other election before that?)

Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent and urgent than ever before?

(PS to the “Autism is not really on the rise” crowd: History is not on your side. Sorry. It just isn’t).

DK

[Guest guest]

“More than almost any American that I know”

He didn’t say parent, but American (I’m watching the replay).

Still- same argument.

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I think the subject came up because it’s one of the few things Palin can say she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about autism than any parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY parent he has met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child with autism would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism. Right?

Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question. No one asked the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an Obama rally with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.

I’m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special needs and special education). But, I think it doesn’t really mean THAT much. Just a losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP’s experience, because he had not much else to say. Plus, he’s trying to get votes from the Special Needs community.

Historically, Republicans don’t fund special education or special needs programs. They are for smaller gov’t and less hand-outs. Look at what Bush has done over the last year.

There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and autism/education. They are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of course we need help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or environmental triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH work to be done.

-

MOST importantly…

If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then why didn’t autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that matter, in any other election before that?)

Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent and urgent than ever before?

(PS to the “Autism is not really on the rise” crowd: History is not on your side. Sorry. It just isn’t).

DK

[Guest guest]

,Good points, but candidates don't bring up issues in debates unless they credit the political significance of the issue.They may be pandering, and cynical, fishing for votes, boosting a failing candidacy or propping a mistaken choice for a running mate --but the issue was brought up and that is proof of its significance in the political dynamic. The legitimacy of the reason for this really does not matter -- that's politics.If McCain loses we know we will have a friend in Congress. He can serve as the conscience of Congress on the autism issue. BobI think the subject came up because it’s one of the few things Palin can say she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about autism than any parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY parent he has met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child with autism would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism. Right?Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question. No one asked the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an Obama rally with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.I’m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special needs and special education). But, I think it doesn’t really mean THAT much. Just a losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP’s experience, because he had not much else to say. Plus, he’s trying to get votes from the Special Needs community.Historically, Republicans don’t fund special education or special needs programs. They are for smaller gov’t and less hand-outs. Look at what Bush has done over the last year. There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and autism/education. They are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of course we need help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or environmental triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH work to be done.- MOST importantly… If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then why didn’t autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that matter, in any other election before that?) Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent and urgent than ever before? (PS to the “Autism is not really on the rise” crowd: History is not on your side. Sorry. It just isn’t). DK J. KrakowAttorney at Law1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110Garden City, NY 11530 (fax)rkrakow@...

[Guest guest]

MOST importantly…

If autism has always been with us in such

alarming numbers, then why didn’t autism come up in the 2004 or 2000

election? (Or, for that matter, in any other election before

that?)

Did better diagnosing suddenly

make the topic even more prominent and urgent than ever before?

(PS to the “Autism is not really on the rise” crowd: History is not on your

side. Sorry. It just isn’t).

DK

[Guest guest]

IDEA has been in exsistence during both republican and democrat

administrations. Can someone who knows better than I do tell me if IDEA

has ever been fully funded at the federal level?

Thanks,

>

> Also, I don¹t see McCain as a friend of mine or my family in any

way, shape

> or form. He will continue the war- say goodbye to billions. He will

cut

> medicare/medicaid. He will NOT fully fund IDEA or NCLB or whatever

> education is needed.

[Guest guest]

No- it never has been fully funded.

> >

> > Also, I don¹t see McCain as a friend of mine or my family in any

> way, shape

> > or form. He will continue the war- say goodbye to billions. He

will

> cut

> > medicare/medicaid. He will NOT fully fund IDEA or NCLB or whatever

> > education is needed.

>

[Guest guest]

---Obama has no experience either. I really think the subject

came up because ASD is an epidemic that has lots of parents

advocating very strongly. Kirby has been a wonderful advocate

as well.I think finally after years they are finally figuring out

thet we are NOT going away. They will NOT brush our children under

the rug.They severely underestimated how strong we would be when they

chose to make ASD the scapegoat for vaccine adverse reactions. I have

spoken with people who have no-one in thier family with ASD and they

state :something has to be done with ASD it is everywhere, It was

Never like this before " The gen public knows this is not better

diagnosing. My only fear is that the anti-asd campain by [pr]

offit,cpc,parasite peete,savage idiot,and leary the leach will cause

Americans to close thier hearts and wallets to the cause. If we do

get funding I wouldnt suggest it goes to the usual type orgs..Have

you ever seen any of these orgs pull the rabbit out of the hat?[the

cure] No...MDA,Cancer ect been around for years collecting billions

but no cures. It unfortunately doesnt behoove them to find the

cure.Thier cash would disappear.

In EOHarm , christine wrote:

>

> I think the subject came up because it¹s one of the few things

Palin can say

> she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about autism

than any

> parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY parent

he has

> met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child

with autism

> would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism.

Right?

>

> Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question. No

one asked

> the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an

Obama rally

> with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.

>

> I¹m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special

needs and

> special education). But, I think it doesn¹t really mean THAT

much. Just a

> losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP¹s

experience,

> because he had not much else to say. Plus, he¹s trying to get

votes from

> the Special Needs community.

>

> Historically, Republicans don¹t fund special education or special

needs

> programs. They are for smaller gov¹t and less hand-outs. Look at

what

> Bush has done over the last year.

>

> There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and

autism/education. They

> are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of course

we need

> help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or

environmental

> triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH

work to be

> done.

>

> -

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > MOST importantlyŠ

> >

> > If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then

why didn¹t

> > autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that

matter, in any

> > other election before that?)

> >

> > Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent

and urgent

> > than ever before?

> >

> > (PS to the ³Autism is not really on the rise² crowd: History is

not on your

> > side. Sorry. It just isn¹t).

> >

> > DK

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I must agree that this was an amazing night to hear both candidates

talk about autism and furthering research. They both agree that

autism is on the rise which is a big step because I still hear from

many doctors that it is NOT on the rise. I still don't get that they

could be so blind. From my experience EVERYONE is touched by autism.

I can't go into a store without striking up a conversation and

hearing that someone has a cousin, nephew, son or grandchild that has

asd.

I am curious about the details of where each candidate stands on

research and treatments. I know McCain has discussed vaccine

safety in the past and how it could relate to autism but is he

willing to support funding for a study into that area? Are they both

on board with looking at every possible link to autism including

environment? The last thing we need is more genetic studies from

Autism Speaks! I need to help my child that is already here and lord

knows another genetic study will do NOTHING for her and the THOUSANDS

of children already affected by ASD.

BTW Mr Kirby, I want you to know that I leave a copy of your book on

the doctors desk in the ER I work in. Strikes a heating discussion

almost nightly! THANK YOU for writing it!

Tina

>

> Never has a childhood disorder had such a prominent role in a

national

> campaign.

>

> Hats off to you, parents!

>

> DK

>

>

>

> MCCAIN:

>

> She'll be my partner. She (Palin) understands reform. And, by the

way,

> she also understands special-needs families. She understands that

autism

> is on the rise, that we've got to find out what's causing it, and

we've

> got to reach out to these families, and help them, and give them the

> help they need as they raise these very special needs children.

>

> OBAMA:

>

> I think it's very commendable the work she's done on behalf of

special

> needs. I agree with that, . I do want to just point out that

autism,

> for example, or other special needs will require some additional

> funding, if we're going to get serious in terms of research. That is

> something that every family that advocates on behalf of disabled

> children talk about. And if we have an across-the-board spending

freeze,

> we're not going to be able to do it.

>

> MCCAIN:

>

>

> And I just said to you earlier, town hall meeting after town hall

> meeting, parents come with kids, children -- precious children who

have

> autism. Palin knows about that better than most. And we'll

find

> and we'll spend the money, research, to find the cause of autism.

And

> we'll care for these young children. And all Americans will open

their

> wallets and their hearts to do so.

>

[Guest guest]

I did like that Obama said he would fund the studies that are needed

and did not like that McCain seems like he wouldn't spend the money

on new studies. How can he say he is for studies and in the next

breath argue with Barak about spending money on research. I don't get

it, maybe I am missing something in that exchange. I too am worried

that they are both pandering for our huge community to vote for them

and they plan on doing nothing. It was huge though to hear autism

mentioned so much in a national presidential debate and we have come

a long way.

I think it is equally important to know where our congressmen stand

in the autism research business as well because the more congress

pushes the issue of studying the cause(s) of autism the faster things

will get done. We need more Dan Burton's in congress now more then

ever.

Tina

>

> I think the subject came up because it¹s one of the few things

Palin can say

> she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about autism

than any

> parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY parent

he has

> met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child

with autism

> would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism.

Right?

>

> Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question. No

one asked

> the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an

Obama rally

> with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.

>

> I¹m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special

needs and

> special education). But, I think it doesn¹t really mean THAT

much. Just a

> losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP¹s

experience,

> because he had not much else to say. Plus, he¹s trying to get

votes from

> the Special Needs community.

>

> Historically, Republicans don¹t fund special education or special

needs

> programs. They are for smaller gov¹t and less hand-outs. Look at

what

> Bush has done over the last year.

>

> There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and

autism/education. They

> are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of course

we need

> help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or

environmental

> triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH

work to be

> done.

>

> -

>

>

[Guest guest]

What are Palin's positions on autism, special needs, education,

transition. She's going to advocate what exactly? I reminds me of

Autism Speaks.

> >

> > I think the subject came up because it¹s one of the few things

> Palin can say

> > she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about

autism

> than any

> > parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY

parent

> he has

> > met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child

> with autism

> > would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism.

> Right?

> >

> > Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question.

No

> one asked

> > the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an

> Obama rally

> > with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.

> >

> > I¹m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special

> needs and

> > special education). But, I think it doesn¹t really mean THAT

> much. Just a

> > losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP¹s

> experience,

> > because he had not much else to say. Plus, he¹s trying to get

> votes from

> > the Special Needs community.

> >

> > Historically, Republicans don¹t fund special education or special

> needs

> > programs. They are for smaller gov¹t and less hand-outs. Look

at

> what

> > Bush has done over the last year.

> >

> > There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and

> autism/education. They

> > are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of

course

> we need

> > help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or

> environmental

> > triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH

> work to be

> > done.

> >

> > -

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I did like that Obama said he would fund the studies that are needed

where do you suppose he will get the cash? Oh I bet I know..since he

isnt for selective vaccination he can assign an ASD fee to all vaccines

he forces on folks......Then he can legitimately say he has funded ASD

[eyeroll] Either way no matter who wins we will have to

ignore " promises " and keep a careful watchon what they actually do

while continuing to keep up the political pressure.Lets not forget the

pres alone cannot make all the policy......

[Guest guest]

EXACTLY!!!!

Fool me once...

You know that great Bush quote

-

What are Palin's positions on autism, special needs, education,

transition. She's going to advocate what exactly? I reminds me of

Autism Speaks.

> >

> > I think the subject came up because it’s one of the few things

> Palin can say

> > she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about

autism

> than any

> > parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY

parent

> he has

> > met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child

> with autism

> > would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism.

> Right?

> >

> > Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question.

No

> one asked

> > the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an

> Obama rally

> > with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.

> >

> > I’m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special

> needs and

> > special education). But, I think it doesn’t really mean THAT

> much. Just a

> > losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP’s

> experience,

> > because he had not much else to say. Plus, he’s trying to get

> votes from

> > the Special Needs community.

> >

> > Historically, Republicans don’t fund special education or special

> needs

> > programs. They are for smaller gov’t and less hand-outs. Look

at

> what

> > Bush has done over the last year.

> >

> > There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and

> autism/education. They

> > are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of

course

> we need

> > help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or

> environmental

> > triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH

> work to be

> > done.

> >

> > -

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

While it is true that Reps are generally for smaller govt and less spending,

when it comes to Sped services the Dems have been no better. The highest

percentage the Feds ever paid for Sped came in 2002, with a Rep controlled House

and Bush (22%) Yes it has slacke off since, but at no time did the Feds cross

the 20% threshhold before, including when the Dems controlled Congress through

the 80's or when Clinton was in the Whitehouse for 8 years. Why none of the

States have not filed in Federal Court for relief when the original Law PL

94-142 clearly stated that by 1982 the Feds would be paying 40% is beyond me.

Talk about a " deadbeat dad " ...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the insult! You just dissed ALL my efforts for your partisanship.

Lin> > > > > > > > > MOST importantlyŠ> > > > If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then why didn¹t> > autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that matter, in any> > other election before that?)> > > > Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent and urgent> > than ever before?> > > > (PS to the ³Autism is not really on the rise² crowd: History is not on your> > side. Sorry. It just isn¹t).> > > > DK > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Don't you realize that McCain chose her, Palin, to serve us?

You don't realize they are going after the corruption?

Lin

>> ,> > Good points, but candidates don't bring up issues in debates unless > they credit the political significance of the issue.> > They may be pandering, and cynical, fishing for votes, boosting a -snip- PLEASE TRIM YOUR RESPONSES - HOST>

[Guest guest]

Like McCain stated to Senator Obama, "You're not running against President Bush, if you wanted to do that, you should have run four years ago."

McCain's not Bush!

Lin

> > > -SNIP- PLEASE TRIM YOUR RESPONSES. -HOST

[Guest guest]

Let's see how quick Autism Speaks steps up to claim credit for this, eh?

Lenny

>

> Never has a childhood disorder had such a prominent role in a national

> campaign.

>

> Hats off to you, parents!

>

> DK

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that the president alone cannot make all the policy decisions

that is why I have written on this group more then once about focusing

on our LOCAL elections as well. btw, the sarcasm is not needed. I have

not been sarcastic to anyone on this list and I RESPECT everyone's

position, even if I STRONGLY disagree.

Tina

> >

> > I did like that Obama said he would fund the studies that are

needed

>

>

> where do you suppose he will get the cash? Oh I bet I know..since he

> isnt for selective vaccination he can assign an ASD fee to all

vaccines

> he forces on folks......Then he can legitimately say he has funded ASD

> [eyeroll] Either way no matter who wins we will have to

> ignore " promises " and keep a careful watchon what they actually do

> while continuing to keep up the political pressure.Lets not forget

the

> pres alone cannot make all the policy......

>

[Guest guest]

When I heard Mc Cain I thought of BUSH. If I remember right Bush talked alot like Mc Cain. He contradicted himself to many times for my liking. As for Roe vs Wade that is a historical landmark lawsuit that gave woment the right to do what ever they wanted with their bodies and he wants it changed. He does NOT have my support

MOST importantly… If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then why didn’t autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that matter, in any other election before that?) Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent and urgent than ever before? (PS to the “Autism is not really on the rise” crowd: History is not on your side. Sorry. It just isn’t). DK J. KrakowAttorney at Law1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110Garden City, NY 11530 (fax)rkrakow@...

[Guest guest]

There is a video that goes with this but cannot send it - unless

someone wants it - I can E-mail it directly to you.

McCain on NBC's, Meet the Press, 1/30/00:

Mr. Russert: " A Constitutional Amendment to ban all abortions? "

McCain: " Yes Sir. "

Mr. Russert: " But, Senator, women across the country would say,

prior to Roe v. Wade, hundreds of thousands of women a year went to

back alleys to have abortions. "

McCain: " I understand that. "

Mr. Russert: " Many died. "

McCain: " I understand that. "

In EOHarm , tammie k wrote:

>

> When I heard Mc Cain I thought of BUSH. If I remember right Bush

talked alot like Mc Cain. He contradicted himself to many times for

my liking. As for Roe vs Wade that is a historical landmark lawsuit

that gave woment the right to do what ever they wanted with their

bodies and he wants it changed. He does NOT have my support

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

> MOST importantly…

>  

> If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then

why didn't autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that

matter, in any other election before that?)

>  

> Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent

and urgent than ever before?

>  

> (PS to the " Autism is not really on the rise " crowd: History is not

on your side. Sorry. It just isn't).

>  

> DK

>

>

>     

>

>

>  

> J. Krakow

> Attorney at Law

> 1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110

> Garden City, NY 11530

>

> (fax)

> rkrakow@...

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>

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[Guest guest]

I totally disagree with you. I will be voting for McCain.

I know many people here don't agree with me but I just wanted to be counted.

Maureen

Re: RE: McCain and Obama on Autism

They bring up issues when they don’t have anything else to say. Palin has VERY little expertise. That fact that her family is in the special needs community is all I have heard. I haven’t heard any detailed stories or facts from her or McCain. I haven’t seen any proof that she knows crap about autism other than “I know autism”. Oh, Ok, I’m just supposed to trust that.Also, I don’t see McCain as a friend of mine or my family in any way, shape or form. He will continue the war- say goodbye to billions. He will cut medicare/medicaid. He will NOT fully fund IDEA or NCLB or whatever education is needed. He doesn’t give a crap about the environment (drill, baby, drill). He wants to cut taxes for the rich and big business (including pharm companies).And MY son’s father is in the Navy.

He almost went to Iraq (but failed his latest physical thank god). Like I’ve said before, the world is more than autism. And there have been friends of “autism” on both sides of the aisle. But, I do not and will not ever support McCain. Thankfully- this whole argument doesn’t matter because Obama is going to win the election. And time will tell what McCain does in the Senate. Remember- he wants smaller gov’t, less taxes, less programs--- but he wants to helps families and find the cause of autism? Can’t have it both ways.-On 10/16/08 1:45 AM, " Krakow" <rkrakowearthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

,Good points, but candidates don't bring up issues in debates unless they credit the political significance of the issue.They may be pandering, and cynical, fishing for votes, boosting a failing candidacy or propping a mistaken choice for a running mate --but the issue was brought up and that is proof of its significance in the political dynamic. The legitimacy of the reason for this really does not matter -- that's politics.If McCain loses we know we will have a friend in Congress. He can serve as the conscience of Congress on the autism issue. Bob

I think the subject came up because it’s one of the few things Palin can say she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about autism than any parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY parent he has met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a child with autism would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with autism. Right?Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the question. No one asked the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just at an Obama rally with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about autism.I’m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight (special needs and special education). But, I think it doesn’t really mean THAT much. Just a losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about his VP’s experience, because

he had not much else to say. Plus, he’s trying to get votes from the Special Needs community.Historically, Republicans don’t fund special education or special needs programs. They are for smaller gov’t and less hand-outs. Look at what Bush has done over the last year. There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and autism/education. They are two totally different areas of the autism community. Of course we need help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine safety or environmental triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is MUCH work to be done.-

MOST importantly… If autism has always been with us in such alarming numbers, then why didn’t autism come up in the 2004 or 2000 election? (Or, for that matter, in any other election before that?) Did better diagnosing suddenly make the topic even more prominent and urgent than ever before? (PS to the “Autism is not really on the rise” crowd: History is not on your side. Sorry. It just isn’t). DK J. KrakowAttorney at Law1205 lin Avenue, Suite 110Garden City, NY 11530 (fax)rkrakowearthlink (DOT) net

[Guest guest]

--- Tina no sarcasm was directed at you just folks who arent

for " selective vaccination " I believe when it comes to what my child

will or will not have is up to me. Yes my child will be one less.one

less to get thier freakin vaccine!In EOHarm , " Tina "

wrote:

>

> I agree that the president alone cannot make all the policy

decisions

> that is why I have written on this group more then once about

focusing

> on our LOCAL elections as well. btw, the sarcasm is not needed. I

have

> not been sarcastic to anyone on this list and I RESPECT everyone's

> position, even if I STRONGLY disagree.

>

> Tina

>

>

> > >

> > > I did like that Obama said he would fund the studies that are

> needed

> >

> >

> > where do you suppose he will get the cash? Oh I bet I know..since

he

> > isnt for selective vaccination he can assign an ASD fee to all

> vaccines

> > he forces on folks......Then he can legitimately say he has

funded ASD

> > [eyeroll] Either way no matter who wins we will have to

> > ignore " promises " and keep a careful watchon what they actually

do

> > while continuing to keep up the political pressure.Lets not

forget

> the

> > pres alone cannot make all the policy......

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--- Yes an opharma should have answered the questions regarding his

questionable compadre's.......He never really answeredIn

EOHarm , " Lin Wessels " wrote:

>

> Like McCain stated to Senator Obama, " You're not running against

> President Bush, if you wanted to do that, you should have run four

years

> ago. "

>

> McCain's not Bush!

>

> Lin

>

>

>

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > I think the subject came up because it¹s one of the few

> things

> > >> > Palin can say

> > >>> > > she knows. McCain said tonight that Palin knows more about

> > > autism

> > >> > than any

> > >>> > > parent he knows. Think about that. That must mean that ANY

> > > parent

> > >> > he has

> > >>> > > met must not know a lot, because in my book a PARENT of a

> child

> > >> > with autism

> > >>> > > would naturally know more than an AUNT of a child with

autism.

> > >> > Right?

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Obama did not bring it up. Schaefer did not ask the

question.

> > > No

> > >> > one asked

> > >>> > > the question in the last debate (town hall). I was just

at an

> > >> > Obama rally

> > >>> > > with a few thousand people and I saw NO signs about

autism.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > I¹m glad that the subject came up a few times tonight

> (special

> > >> > needs and

> > >>> > > special education). But, I think it doesn¹t really mean

> THAT

> > >> > much. Just a

> > >>> > > losing candidate trying to fill time when talking about

his

> VP¹s

> > >> > experience,

> > >>> > > because he had not much else to say. Plus, he¹s trying to

> get

> > >> > votes from

> > >>> > > the Special Needs community.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > Historically, Republicans don¹t fund special education or

> special

> > >> > needs

> > >>> > > programs. They are for smaller gov¹t and less hand-outs.

> Look

> > > at

> > >> > what

> > >>> > > Bush has done over the last year.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > There is a difference between mercury/vaccines and

> > >> > autism/education. They

> > >>> > > are two totally different areas of the autism community.

Of

> > > course

> > >> > we need

> > >>> > > help with ALL areas. But, no one brought up vaccine

safety or

> > >> > environmental

> > >>> > > triggers or what type of studies they want to do. There is

> MUCH

> > >> > work to be

> > >>> > > done.

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > > -

> > >>> > >

> > >>> > >

> > >> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have to repectfully disagree, too.

Yes, you can have it both ways. It is called reform and transparency. Exactly what we need.

As for continually comparing McCain to Bush:

DEBATE FACT #7: BARACK OBAMA VOTED WITH BUSH "FOR THE MOST PART"

Why is it that Barack Obama says he voted with President Bush "for the most part"?

"Factually Inaccurate" To Say McCain Is Like President Bush

· The New York Times' : Democrats Saying McCain Represents The Third Bush Term Are "Just Factually Inaccurate." -snip-