Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Actually, this was brought up at our conference. I can't remember which speaker it was (help Trish), but he basically said it's worse than getting the shot because all of the toxins go directly to the brain. > > .Has anybody got any recent info on the FLU Mist and why it is bad?. > > Ange > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 FluMist contains a live virus and if you take it you are contagious for several weeks. Pamela From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of family Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:28 PM To: EOHarm Subject: Flu mist ? ..Has anybody got any recent info on the FLU Mist and why it is bad?. Ange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 ALL, Factually, FluMist contains 3 live influenza viruses, 2 type " A " strains and a type " B " strain. In addition to making the person inoculated with FluMist contagious for 3 weeks (or, in rare cases, possibly longer), inoculation with 3 genetically engineered live flu viruses RISKS the generation of a mutated virulent strongly shed strain of influenza from the exchange of genetic material between one of the live-viral strains in the vaccine upon exposure to another circulating flu strain! [There is anecdotal evidence that this has occurred in several instances involving school aides/teachers getting FluMist and then infecting their entire class of students because they did not quarantine themselves from their students -- even infecting some students who had been vaccinated.] Since the inoculation sprays the vaccine up the child's or adult's nose, there is a risk of brain infection IF there is a defect in the tissues around where the olfactory nerves enters the brain -- as another posting has reported. Moreover, except for a vaccine-maker sponsored study that showed higher efficacy for the FluMist vaccine than the inactivated influenza vaccine, there is NO PROOF THAT the FluMist IS IN-USE EFFECTIVE in any year. Hopefully, this information will be helpful to those who are concerned. ******************************************* *The information provided in this email * *and any attachment thereto is just that * * -- information. * * * *It is not medical advice and it does not * *require any specific action or actions. * * * *While the information is thought to be * *accurate, no representation is made as * *to the accuracy of the information posted* *other than it is my best understanding of* *the facts on the date that this email and* *any attachments thereto are posted. * * * *Everyone should verify the accuracy of * *the information provided for themselves * *before acting on it. * ******************************************* Regards, Dr. King http://www.dr-king.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 18:20 10/27/08 -0400, you wrote: > >FluMist contains a live virus and if you take >it you are contagious for several weeks. > > > >Pamela > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why am I thinking it was Len and Joe? Anyway, I copied an article by Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. Long, but it tells you what you need to know! -Trish DANGERS OF FLUMIST From Red Flags Daily Risks of FluMist Vaccine An Investigation By RFD Columnist, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny www.nmaseminars.com " MedImmune, the manufacturer of FluMist, recently announced that it signed an agreement that makes FluMist, the new intranasal influenza vaccine, readily available to people as they shop at Wal-Mart, the worlds biggest retailer. " [1] As the physician in charge of a bustling Integrative medical clinic, questions about vaccines frequently arise. After reading about the MedImmune-Walmart joint venture, I felt compelled to warn our patients and our internet subscribers of the potentially serious complications that may come from direct and passive exposure to this new vaccine. I also wanted to give a " heads up " to everyone regarding the onslaught of advertising that is about to besiege them. Hundreds of TV and print advertisements have been designed to persuade everyone into taking the FluMist plunge. The campaign will be the " most intense, direct-to-consumer marketing campaign ever waged for a vaccine, " costing an estimated $25 million over the next 2.5 months [2]. In addition, Wyeth, MedImmune's partner, plans a three-year, $100 million campaign to encourage use of the nasal flu vaccine among physicians.[3] The television arm of the blitz campaign will focus on the " inconveniences " that your family, friends and co-workers will endure if you don't get the flu shot and subsequently contract the flu. Print advertisements and magazine articles apparently will use scare tactics–similar to those that were used while promoting the smallpox vaccine–which warned of the high possibility of a " bioterror attack using the flu virus. " [4] Apparently, the goal seems to center around frightening–or inducing enough guilt–that everyone would begin to demand the vaccine as soon as it is available. And at nearly $70 a dose, this will be a financial bonanza for MedImmune and Wyeth, who are expecting the vaccine to become the blockbuster new drug that will push MedImmune's revenues to more than $1billion/year. [5] However, there are many reasons for caution. FluMist contains live (attenuated) influenza viruses that replicate in the nasopharynx of the vaccine recipient. The most common side effects include " cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever > 100° F. " [6] These symptoms are nearly identical to those the flu vaccine is designed to prevent. [7] A cause for significant concern is the vaccine's most prevalent side effects: " runny nose " and " nasal congestion. " It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days, [8] and even longer from adults.[9] Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist. [10] In addition to shedding via nasal secretions, the virus can be dispersed through sneezing. What is the normal physiological response when an irritant enters the nasal passages? A sneeze… sometimes a big sneeze…sometimes several big sneezes. Therefore, the risk for shedding–and spreading–live viruses throughout a school, church, workplace, or store — especially one which is administering the vaccine. In the section of the FlumMist package insert labeled " PRECAUTIONS, " the manufacturer states the following warning: " FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days. " The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system. The number of immunocompromised people in the United States is enormous: It is estimated that at least 10%, or more than 28 million people have eczema. [11] More than 8.5 million people have cancer. [12] There are reported to be 850,000 individuals with diagnosed and undiagnosed HIV infection or AIDS [13] and Based on 2001 data, there were 184,000 organ recipients [14] An even more extensive list of at-risk people includes the untold millions on drugs called corticosteroids. Prednisone®, Medrol®, and a variety of similar medications are given to both adults and children. These drugs are prescribed for dozens of conditions including asthma; allergies; eczema; emphysema; Crohn's disease; multiple sclerosis; herniated spinal discs; acute muscular pain syndromes; and all types of rheumatoid and autoimmune diseases. As much as 60% of the entire population could be considered to be " chemically immunosuppressed. " It is important to realize that FluMist is CONTRAINDICATED for people who are immunocompromised. People who receive FluMist and are living with an immunocompromised person put their loved ones at risk. Will this make stores that administer the vaccines–like Walmart and the other pharmaceutical chain stores that have announced they will carry FluMist [15]–risky places to shop for large segments of the population? What measures will be taken in these stores to ensure that the virus will not become commingled with food? What hand washing policy is going to be enforced in the stores for all Walmart employees and customers who have received FluMist? These are reasonable questions that deserve answers. The target market for FluMist is " healthy children and adults, ages 5 to 49 yrs. " Some believe that by vaccinating these people, a type of " herd immunity " will occur that will protect the very young and the elderly who are excluded from getting this vaccine. However, it is these very " at-risk " populations who may suffer the most from the flu by being exposed to people who are given FluMist. According to information presented at the May, 2003 National Influenza Summit,[16] approximately 85% of Americans between the ages of 20 and 50 go unvaccinated, and nearly 66% between the ages of 50 and 64 do not receive the flu vaccine. Have there been " raging epidemics " across the country due to lack of flu vaccinations? It appears that the massive campaign to vaccinate everyone this year appears may be motivated, in part, by economics. The viruses suspected to be the most likely cause for the flu this season were negligibly different from the strains used in last year's flu vaccine. Therefore, the influenza vaccine produced for the 2003-2004 season is identical in composition to the one used last year. This marks only the second time that the same strains have been used during two consecutive flu seasons.[17] Consider that antibodies from other viral vaccines–such as MMR, polio and chickenpox vaccines–last at least 3 years, and in some instances, up to 15 years. If the viruses used in the vaccine are the same as last year, why is this year's vaccine even necessary? An ever greater concern about FluMist is the contents within the vaccine. Each 0.5ml of the formula contains 10 6.5-7.5 particles of live, attenuated influenza virus. That means that between 10 million and 100 million viral particles will be forcefully injected into the nostrils when administered. The viral strain was developed by serial passage through " specific pathogen-free primary chick kidney cells " and then grown in " specific pathogen-free eggs. " That means that the culture media was free of pathogens that were specifically tested for, but not a culture that was necessarily " pathogen-free. " The risk that the vaccine may contain contaminant avian retroviruses still remains. In addition, a stabilizing buffer containing potassium phosphate, sucrose (table sugar) and nearly 0.5 mg of monosodium glutamate (MSG) is added to each dose. [18] One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this " chemical soup " is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper- thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as " smells " familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain.[19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist will become linked to cases of encephalitis. The pharmaceutical companies do not necessarily always do a reasonable job of considering the " down side " when they are pushing new drugs or new vaccines. FluMist has the potential for causing the worst, most severe flu epidemic seen in years. Parents tell their young children not to put things up their noses because they might cause them harm. It would be wise to consider that advice for adults. With all the risks involved, one should be extremely cautious about what one allows to be sprayed in one's nose. REFERENCES 1)Dow Business News. Sept. 12, 2003. FluMist Available In Pharmacies This Fall. http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030910/0017000011_2.html 2)Washington Post. Nasal spray for flu to get big media launch. Sept. 10, 2003, pg. E01 3)Washington Post. Spray vaccine for flu wins FDA clearance. June 18, 2003. pg. A01 .. 4)Mohammed, Madjid. Influenza as a bioweapon. J.R.Soc.Med. 2003;96:345-346. 5)Adler, Neil. MedImmune awaits the $1 billion mark and a new flu drug. The Business Gazette. Feb. 7, 2003. http://www.gazette.net/200306/business/news/143250-1.html 6)FluMist package insert. 7)Vesikari T., et al. A randomized, double-blind, placebo- controlledtrial of the safety, transmissibility and phenotypic stability of a live, attenuated, cold-adapted influenza virus vaccine (CAIV-T) in children attending day care. Presented at the 41st Annual Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, (Chicago, IL). 2001 8) ibid. (Chicago, IL). 2001 9)Zangwell, . Cold-adapted, live attenuated intranasal influenza virus vaccine. The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal 2003; 22(3):273-274. 10)Drug information. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202297.html 11)Diepgen TL. Is the prevalence of atopic dermatitis increasing? In: HC, ed. Atopic Dermatitis: The Epidemiology, Causes and Prevention of Atopic Eczema. New York: Cambridge Univ Pr; 2000:96- 112. 12)National Cancer Institute. CanQues. Available at http://srab. cancer.gov/Prevalence/canques.html. Accessed January 3, 2002. 13) Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS. Epidemiological Fact Sheets on HIV and Sexually Transmitted Infections: United States. Available at www.unaids.org/ fact_sheets/index.html. Accessed January 14, 2002 14) United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS). All Recipients: Age at Time of Transplant. Available at www.unos.org /. Accessed January 14, 2002. 15) Allan and Harold Rubin, MS, ABD, CRC. September 26, 2003. Vaccinations and the Elderly. http://www.therubins.com/aging/vacine.htm 16)May 20-21, 2003, the National Influenza Summit. Chicago, IL. http://www.partnersforimmunization.org/meetingupdates52021.html 17)ibid. 18)FluMist package insert. 19) Knipe, . M. Ed. Fields Virology. Philadelpthis: Lippincott, 4th ed. 2001. pg. 1057 For more information on a natural, homeopathic Flu Prevention Read Here Warmly, Dr. Deb INFORMATION AND SOLUTIONS FOR: MERCURY: GENERAL INFO FILLINGS DETOXIFICATION JAW CAVITATIONS OSTEOPOROSIS SPORTS NUTRITION /FITNESS AND WEIGHT LOSS FLU PREVENTION HOMEOPATHY HOLISTIC PET CARE THE TRUTH ABOUT CHOLES- TEROL TOP PRODUCTS: BENFOTIAMIN GSH COMPLEX HOLISTIC SKIN CARE BETA GLUCANS PAST NEWSLETTERS BUILD YOUR OWN WEB BUSINESS PERSONAL CONSULTATIONS SUPPLEMENTS AND PROTOCOLS HOLISTIC SKIN CARE AND GIFT STORE ABOUT ME LINKS CONTACT ME DISCLAIMER PRIVACY STATEMENT HOME KEEP UP TO DATE ON HEALTH ISSUES..JOIN OUR FREE NEWSLETTER LIST! FIND WHAT YOU NEED AT Y2KH & D! 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Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Users can shed the virus for " up to " 3 weeks. Of course, they only followed recipients for 21 days (p.17). Here is the package insert: http://www.fda.gov/cber/label/flumistLB.pdf Interesting read: www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/02/slides/3912S1_1.ppt > > .Has anybody got any recent info on the FLU Mist and why it is bad?. > > Ange > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Thanks I have this and much other info. I wondered if there was anything NEW. I have sent the information to my school board but each year they ignore it and go ahead with the flu mist clinic anyway. I wondered if there was anything that has been published in the last year or so regarding flu mist, the ability of it to pass the blood brain barrier etc. I need studies or I need not bother. Ange Re: Flu mist ? Why am I thinking it was Len and Joe? Anyway, I copied an article by Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. Long, but it tells you what you need to know! -Trish DANGERS OF FLUMIST From Red Flags DailyRisks of FluMist Vaccine An Investigation By RFD Columnist, Dr. Sherri Tenpennywww.nmaseminars.com "MedImmune, the manufacturer of FluMist, recently announced that it signed an agreement that makes FluMist, the new intranasal influenza vaccine, readily available to people as they shop at Wal-Mart, the worlds biggest retailer." [1]As the physician in charge of a bustling Integrative medical clinic, questions about vaccines frequently arise. After reading about the MedImmune-Walmart joint venture, I felt compelled to warn our patients and our internet subscribers of the potentially serious complications that may come from direct and passive exposure to this new vaccine. I also wanted to give a "heads up" to everyone regarding the onslaught of advertising that is about to besiege them. Hundreds of TV and print advertisements have been designed to persuade everyone into taking the FluMist plunge. The campaign will be the "most intense, direct-to-consumer marketing campaign ever waged for a vaccine," costing an estimated $25 million over the next 2.5 months [2]. In addition, Wyeth, MedImmune's partner, plans a three-year, $100 million campaign to encourage use of the nasal flu vaccine among physicians.[3]The television arm of the blitz campaign will focus on the "inconveniences" that your family, friends and co-workers will endure if you don't get the flu shot and subsequently contract the flu. Print advertisements and magazine articles apparently will use scare tactics–similar to those that were used while promoting the smallpox vaccine–which warned of the high possibility of a "bioterror attack using the flu virus."[4]Apparently, the goal seems to center around frightening–or inducing enough guilt–that everyone would begin to demand the vaccine as soon as it is available. And at nearly $70 a dose, this will be a financial bonanza for MedImmune and Wyeth, who are expecting the vaccine to become the blockbuster new drug that will push MedImmune's revenues to more than $1billion/year. [5]However, there are many reasons for caution. FluMist contains live (attenuated) influenza viruses that replicate in the nasopharynx of the vaccine recipient. The most common side effects include "cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever > 100° F."[6] These symptoms are nearly identical to those the flu vaccine is designed to prevent. [7]A cause for significant concern is the vaccine's most prevalent side effects: "runny nose" and "nasal congestion." It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days,[8] and even longer from adults.[9] Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist.[10]In addition to shedding via nasal secretions, the virus can be dispersed through sneezing. What is the normal physiological response when an irritant enters the nasal passages? A sneeze…sometimes a big sneeze…sometimes several big sneezes. Therefore, the risk for shedding–and spreading–live viruses throughout a school, church, workplace, or store — especially one which is administering the vaccine. In the section of the FlumMist package insert labeled "PRECAUTIONS," the manufacturer states the following warning: "FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days." The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system. The number of immunocompromised people in the United States is enormous:It is estimated that at least 10%, or more than 28 million people have eczema. [11] More than 8.5 million people have cancer. [12] There are reported to be 850,000 individuals with diagnosed and undiagnosed HIV infection or AIDS [13] and Based on 2001 data, there were 184,000 organ recipients [14] An even more extensive list of at-risk people includes the untold millions on drugs called corticosteroids. Prednisone®, Medrol®, and a variety of similar medications are given to both adults and children. These drugs are prescribed for dozens of conditions including asthma; allergies; eczema; emphysema; Crohn's disease; multiple sclerosis; herniated spinal discs; acute muscular pain syndromes; and all types of rheumatoid and autoimmune diseases. As much as 60% of the entire population could be considered to be "chemically immunosuppressed." It is important to realize that FluMist is CONTRAINDICATED for people who are immunocompromised. People who receive FluMist and are living with an immunocompromised person put their loved ones at risk.Will this make stores that administer the vaccines–like Walmart and the other pharmaceutical chain stores that have announced they will carry FluMist [15]–risky places to shop for large segments of the population? What measures will be taken in these stores to ensure that the virus will not become commingled with food? What hand washing policy is going to be enforced in the stores for all Walmart employees and customers who have received FluMist? These are reasonable questions that deserve answers. The target market for FluMist is "healthy children and adults, ages 5 to 49 yrs." Some believe that by vaccinating these people, a type of "herd immunity" will occur that will protect the very young and the elderly who are excluded from getting this vaccine. However, it is these very "at-risk" populations who may suffer the most from the flu by being exposed to people who are given FluMist.According to information presented at the May, 2003 National Influenza Summit,[16] approximately 85% of Americans between the ages of 20 and 50 go unvaccinated, and nearly 66% between the ages of 50 and 64 do not receive the flu vaccine. Have there been "raging epidemics" across the country due to lack of flu vaccinations? It appears that the massive campaign to vaccinate everyone this year appears may be motivated, in part, by economics. The viruses suspected to be the most likely cause for the flu this season were negligibly different from the strains used in last year's flu vaccine. Therefore, the influenza vaccine produced for the 2003-2004 season is identical in composition to the one used last year. This marks only the second time that the same strains have been used during two consecutive flu seasons.[17] Consider that antibodies from other viral vaccines–such as MMR, polio and chickenpox vaccines–last at least 3 years, and in some instances, up to 15 years. If the viruses used in the vaccine are the same as last year, why is this year's vaccine even necessary?An ever greater concern about FluMist is the contents within the vaccine. Each 0.5ml of the formula contains 10 6.5-7.5 particles of live, attenuated influenza virus. That means that between 10 million and 100 million viral particles will be forcefully injected into the nostrils when administered. The viral strain was developed by serial passage through "specific pathogen-free primary chick kidney cells" and then grown in "specific pathogen-free eggs." That means that the culture media was free of pathogens that were specifically tested for, but not a culture that was necessarily "pathogen-free." The risk that the vaccine may contain contaminant avian retroviruses still remains. In addition, a stabilizing buffer containing potassium phosphate, sucrose (table sugar) and nearly 0.5 mg of monosodium glutamate (MSG) is added to each dose. [18]One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this "chemical soup" is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper-thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as "smells" familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain.[19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist will become linked to cases of encephalitis. The pharmaceutical companies do not necessarily always do a reasonable job of considering the "down side" when they are pushing new drugs or new vaccines. FluMist has the potential for causing the worst, most severe flu epidemic seen in years. Parents tell their young children not to put things up their noses because they might cause them harm. It would be wise to consider that advice for adults. With all the risks involved, one should be extremely cautious about what one allows to be sprayed in one's nose. REFERENCES1)Dow Business News. Sept. 12, 2003. FluMist Available In Pharmacies This Fall. http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030910/0017000011_2.html 2)Washington Post. Nasal spray for flu to get big media launch. Sept. 10, 2003, pg. E013)Washington Post. Spray vaccine for flu wins FDA clearance. June 18, 2003. pg. A01. 4)Mohammed, Madjid. Influenza as a bioweapon. J.R.Soc.Med. 2003;96:345-346.5)Adler, Neil. MedImmune awaits the $1 billion mark and a new flu drug. The Business Gazette. Feb. 7, 2003. http://www.gazette.net/200306/business/news/143250-1.html6)FluMist package insert.7)Vesikari T., et al. A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlledtrial of the safety, transmissibility and phenotypic stability of a live, attenuated, cold-adapted influenza virus vaccine (CAIV-T) in children attending day care. Presented at the 41st Annual Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, (Chicago, IL). 20018) ibid. (Chicago, IL). 20019)Zangwell, . Cold-adapted, live attenuated intranasal influenza virus vaccine. The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal 2003; 22(3):273-274.10)Drug information. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202297.html11)Diepgen TL. Is the prevalence of atopic dermatitis increasing? In: HC, ed. Atopic Dermatitis: The Epidemiology, Causes and Prevention of Atopic Eczema. New York: Cambridge Univ Pr; 2000:96-112.12)National Cancer Institute. CanQues. Available at http://srab. cancer.gov/Prevalence/canques.html. Accessed January 3, 2002.13) Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS. Epidemiological Fact Sheets on HIV and Sexually Transmitted Infections: United States. Available at www.unaids.org/ fact_sheets/index.html. Accessed January 14, 200214) United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS). All Recipients: Age at Time of Transplant. Available at www.unos.org /. Accessed January 14, 2002.15) Allan and Harold Rubin, MS, ABD, CRC. September 26, 2003. Vaccinations and the Elderly. http://www.therubins.com/aging/vacine.htm16)May 20-21, 2003, the National Influenza Summit. Chicago, IL. http://www.partnersforimmunization.org/meetingupdates52021.html17)ibid. 18)FluMist package insert.19) Knipe, . M. Ed. Fields Virology. Philadelpthis: Lippincott, 4th ed. 2001. pg. 1057For more information on a natural, homeopathic Flu Prevention Read Here Warmly,Dr. DebINFORMATION ANDSOLUTIONS FOR:MERCURY:GENERAL INFO FILLINGS DETOXIFICATION JAW CAVITATIONS OSTEOPOROSIS SPORTSNUTRITION /FITNESS AND WEIGHT LOSSFLUPREVENTION HOMEOPATHY HOLISTICPET CARE THE TRUTHABOUT CHOLES-TEROL TOP PRODUCTS:BENFOTIAMINGSH COMPLEXHOLISTIC SKIN CAREBETA GLUCANSPAST NEWSLETTERS BUILD YOUR OWN WEB BUSINESSPERSONALCONSULTATIONSSUPPLEMENTSAND PROTOCOLSHOLISTIC SKINCARE AND GIFTSTORE ABOUT ME LINKSCONTACT ME DISCLAIMERPRIVACYSTATEMENT HOMEKEEP UP TO DATE ON HEALTHISSUES..JOIN OUR FREENEWSLETTER LIST! FIND WHAT YOU NEED AT Y2KH & D! 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Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Make your own decision concerning the source of this info. on this video. H5N1 DNA in Flu Vaccine > > .Has anybody got any recent info on the FLU Mist and why it is bad?. > > Ange > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 " One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this " chemical soup " is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper-thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as " smells " familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain. [19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist™ will become linked to cases of encephalitis. " http://www.whale.to/a/ten13.html Risks of FluMist™ Vaccine By Sherri Tenpenny, DO, © 2003 Website: www.nmaseminars.com Phone: " MedImmune, the manufacturer of FluMist™, recently announced that it signed an agreement that makes FluMist™, the new intranasal influenza vaccine, readily available to people as they shop at Wal-Mart, the world s biggest retailer. " [1] As the physician in charge of a bustling integrative medical clinic, questions about vaccines frequently arise. After reading about the MedImmune-Walmart joint venture, I felt compelled to warn our patients and our Internet subscribers of the potentially serious complications that may come from direct and passive exposure to this new vaccine. I also wanted to give a " heads up " to everyone regarding the onslaught of advertising that is about to besiege them. Hundreds of TV and print advertisements have been designed to persuade everyone into taking the FluMist™ plunge. The campaign will be the " most intense, direct-to-consumer marketing campaign ever waged for a vaccine, " costing an estimated $25 million over the next 2.5 months [2]. In addition, Wyeth, MedImmune s partner, plans a three-year, $100 million campaign to encourage use of the nasal flu vaccine among physicians. [3] Note from Chet: Click here for my special report containing 37 natural cold and flu home remedies. The television arm of the blitz campaign will focus on the " inconveniences " that your family, friends and co-workers will endure if you don t get the flu shot and subsequently contract the flu. Print advertisements and magazine articles apparently will use scare tactics--similar to those that were used while promoting the smallpox vaccine--which warned of the high possibility of a " bioterror attack using the flu virus. " [4] Apparently, the goal seems to center around frightening--or inducing enough guilt--so that everyone would begin to demand the vaccine as soon as it is available. And at nearly $70 a dose, this will be a financial bonanza for MedImmune and Wyeth, who are expecting the vaccine to become the blockbuster new drug that will push MedImmune s revenues to more than $1 billion/year. [5] However, there are many reasons for caution. FluMist™ contains live (attenuated) influenza viruses that replicate in the nasopharynx of the vaccine recipient. The most common side effects include " cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever > 100 F. " [6] These symptoms are nearly identical to those the flu vaccine is designed to prevent. [7] A cause for significant concern is the vaccine s most prevalent side effects: " runny nose " and " nasal congestion. " It has been documented that the live viruses from the vaccine can be shed (and potentially spread into the community) from recipient children for up to 21 days, [8] and even longer from adults. [9] Viral shedding also puts breastfeeding infants at risk if the mother has been given FluMist™. [10] In addition to shedding via nasal secretions, the virus can be dispersed through sneezing. What is the normal physiological response when an irritant enters the nasal passages? A sneeze sometimes a big sneeze sometimes several big sneezes. Therefore, the risk for shedding--and spreading--live viruses throughout a school, church, workplace or store--especially one which is administering the vaccine. In the section of the FluMist™ package insert labeled " PRECAUTIONS, " the manufacturer states the following warning: " FluMist™ recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days. " The warning is specifically directed toward those living in the same household with an immunocompromised person, but the on-going release of live viruses throughout the community may be a significant risk to everyone who has a weak, or weakened, immune system. The number of immunocompromised people in the United States is enormous: It is estimated that at least 10 percent, or more than 28 million people have eczema. [11] More than 8.5 million people have cancer. [12] There are reported to be 850,000 individuals with diagnosed and undiagnosed HIV infection or AIDS [13] Based on 2001 data, there were 184,000 organ recipients [14] An even more extensive list of at-risk people includes the untold millions on drugs called corticosteroids. Prednisone , Medrol , and a variety of similar medications given to both adults and children. These drugs are prescribed for dozens of conditions including asthma, allergies, eczema, emphysema, Crohn s disease, multiple sclerosis, herniated spinal discs, acute muscular pain syndromes, and all types of rheumatoid and autoimmune diseases. As much as 60 percent of the entire population could be considered to be " chemically immunosuppressed. " It is important to realize that FluMist™ is CONTRAINDICATED for people who are immunocompromised. People who receive FluMist™ and are living with an immunocompromised person put their loved ones at risk. Will this make stores that administer the vaccines--like Walmart and the other pharmaceutical chain stores that have announced they will carry FluMist™ [15]--risky places to shop for large segments of the population? What measures will be taken in these stores to ensure that the virus will not become commingled with food? What hand washing policy is going to be enforced in the stores for all Walmart employees and customers who have received FluMist™? These are reasonable questions that deserve answers. The target market for FluMist™ is " healthy children and adults, ages 5 to 49 years. " Some believe that by vaccinating these people, a type of " herd immunity " will occur that will protect the very young and the elderly who are excluded from getting this vaccine. However, it is these very " at-risk " populations who may suffer the most from the flu by being exposed to people who are given FluMist™. Note from Chet: Click here for my special report containing 37 natural cold and flu home remedies. According to information presented at the May 2003 National Influenza Summit, [16] approximately 85 percent of Americans between the ages of 20 and 50 go unvaccinated, and nearly 66 percent between the ages of 50 and 64 do not receive the flu vaccine. Have there been " raging epidemics " across the country due to lack of flu vaccinations? It appears that the massive campaign to vaccinate everyone this year may be motivated, in part, by economics. The viruses suspected to be the most likely cause for the flu this season were negligibly different from the strains used in last year s flu vaccine. Therefore, the influenza vaccine produced for the 2003-2004 season is identical in composition to the one used last year. This marks only the second time that the same strains have been used during two consecutive flu seasons. [17] Consider that antibodies from other viral vaccines--such as MMR, polio and chickenpox vaccines--last at least three years, and in some instances, up to 15 years. If the viruses used in the vaccine are the same as last year, why is this year s vaccine even necessary? An even greater concern about FluMist™ is the contents within the vaccine. Each 0.5 ml of the formula contains 10 6.5-7.5 particles of live, attenuated influenza virus. That means that between 10 million and 100 million viral particles will be forcefully injected into the nostrils when administered. The viral strain was developed by serial passage through " specific pathogen-free primary chick kidney cells " and then grown in " specific pathogen-free eggs. " That means that the culture media was free of pathogens that were specifically tested for, but not a culture that was necessarily " pathogen-free. " The risk that the vaccine may contain contaminant avian retroviruses still remains. In addition, a stabilizing buffer containing potassium phosphate, sucrose (table sugar) and nearly 0.5 mg of monosodium glutamate (MSG) is added to each dose. [18] One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this " chemical soup " is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper-thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as " smells " familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain. [19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist™ will become linked to cases of encephalitis. The pharmaceutical companies do not necessarily always do a reasonable job of considering the " down side " when they are pushing new drugs or new vaccines. FluMist™ has the potential for causing the worst, most severe flu epidemic seen in years. Parents tell their young children not to put things up their noses because they might cause them harm. It would be wise to consider that advice for adults. With all the risks involved, one should be extremely cautious about what one allows to be sprayed in one s nose. REFERENCES Dow Business News. Sept. 12, 2003. FluMist Available In Pharmacies This Fall. http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030910/0017000011_2.html Washington Post. Nasal spray for flu to get big media launch. Sept. 10, 2003, pg. E01 Washington Post. Spray vaccine for flu wins FDA clearance. June 18, 2003. pg. A01. Mohammed, Madjid. Influenza as a bioweapon. J.R.Soc.Med. 2003;96:345-346. Adler, Neil. MedImmune awaits the $1 billion mark and a new flu drug. The Business Gazette. Feb. 7, 2003. http://www.gazette.net/200306/business/news/143250-1.html FluMist package insert. Vesikari T., et al. A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlledtrial of the safety, transmissibility and phenotypic stability of a live, attenuated, cold-adapted influenza virus vaccine (CAIV-T) in children attending day care. Presented at the 41st Annual Interscience Conference on Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, (Chicago, IL). 2001 ibid. (Chicago, IL). 2001 Zangwell, . Cold-adapted, live attenuated intranasal influenza virus vaccine. The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal 2003; 22(3):273-274. Drug information. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202297.html Diepgen TL. Is the prevalence of atopic dermatitis increasing? In: HC, ed. Atopic Dermatitis: The Epidemiology, Causes and Prevention of Atopic Eczema. New York: Cambridge Univ Pr; 2000:96-112. National Cancer Institute. CanQues. Available at http://srab. cancer.gov/Prevalence/canques.html. Accessed January 3, 2002. Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS. Epidemiological Fact Sheets on HIV and Sexually Transmitted Infections: United States. Available at www.unaids.org/ fact_sheets/index.html. Accessed January 14, 2002 United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS). All Recipients: Age at Time of Transplant. Available at www.unos.org /. Accessed January 14, 2002. Allan and Harold Rubin, MS, ABD, CRC. September 26, 2003. Vaccinations and the Elderly. http://www.therubins.com/aging/vacine.htm May 20-21, 2003, the National Influenza Summit. Chicago, IL. http://www.partnersforimmunization.org/meetingupdates52021.html ibid. FluMist package insert. Knipe, . M. Ed. Fields Virology. Philadelpthis: Lippincott, 4th ed. 2001. pg. 1057 -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 At 02:18 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: Thanks I have this and much other info. I wondered if there was anything NEW. I have sent the information to my school board but each year they ignore it and go ahead with the flu mist clinic anyway. I wondered if there was anything that has been published in the last year or so regarding flu mist, the ability of it to pass the blood brain barrier etc. I need studies or I need not bother. Ange Its not so much about the blood brain barrier - its about it crossing directly into the brain across the cribriform plate Sheri see below One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this " chemical soup " is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper- thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as " smells " familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain.[19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist will become linked to cases of encephalitis. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Where did that quote come from? Thanks for that Ange Re: Re: Flu mist ? At 02:18 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: Thanks I have this and much other info. I wondered if there was anything NEW. I have sent the information to my school board but each year they ignore it and go ahead with the flu mist clinic anyway. I wondered if there was anything that has been published in the last year or so regarding flu mist, the ability of it to pass the blood brain barrier etc. I need studies or I need not bother. AngeIts not so much about the blood brain barrier - its about it crossing directly into the brain across the cribriform plateSherisee below One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this "chemical soup" is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper- thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as "smells" familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain.[19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist will become linked to cases of encephalitis. --------------------------------------------------------Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UKVaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htmVaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 from the article I posted before this one - Sherri Tenpenny's article http://www.whale.to/a/ten13.html Risks of FluMist™ VaccineI had posted the whole thing but just quoted the particular part in the 2nd email Sheri At 04:52 PM 10/30/2008, you wrote: Where did that quote come from? Thanks for that Ange Re: Re: Flu mist ? At 02:18 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote: Thanks I have this and much other info. I wondered if there was anything NEW. I have sent the information to my school board but each year they ignore it and go ahead with the flu mist clinic anyway. I wondered if there was anything that has been published in the last year or so regarding flu mist, the ability of it to pass the blood brain barrier etc. I need studies or I need not bother. Ange Its not so much about the blood brain barrier - its about it crossing directly into the brain across the cribriform plate Sheri see below One of the most troubling concerns over the injection of this " chemical soup " is the potential for the viruses to enter directly into the brain. At the top of the nasal passages is a paper- thin bone called the cribriform plate. The olfactory nerves pass through this bone and line the nasal passages, carrying messenger molecules to the brain that are identified as " smells " familiar to us. The olfactory tract has long been recognized as a direct pathway to the brain. Intranasal injection of certain viruses has resulted in a serious brain infection called encephalitis, presumably by direct infection of the olfactory neurons that carried the viruses to the brain.[19] Time will tell whether the live viruses in FluMist will become linked to cases of encephalitis. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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