Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Dear RWB The national film board , is a federal agency , the strenght of the NFB , its quality of its animation film and documentary film not in its promotion , sadly I beleive , beacuse of the gouv in power is very close to big Pharma and they are aware of the film now , generally the NFB , will stay independant , but with this gouv and the fact the NFB budget have been cut , and will be cut some more I would not be surprise that NFB administrator will sacrifice this film as leverage to protect NFB budgets . Pierre > > > > > > > > To the Group > > > > > > > > This is trully important , there a award wining documentary film > > > > maker Lina Moraco from the National Film Board of Canada has been > > > > working for three years on a film on the adverse reaction of > > vaccines. > > > > > > > > See site : > > > > http://www3.onf.ca/webextension/silence-on-vaccine/ > > > > > > > > This film is now ready for release , but it look like there some > > > > attemps to hold up this documentary > > > > > > > > There are goog people pushing hard for its release within the > > > > national film Boards . > > > > \ > > > > What i need you people to do , is to access the site and place an > > > > inquiry when the movie will be release. > > > > > > > > Nothing fancy just ask for the release date , we need to draw > > > > attention to the movie that is all . > > > > > > > > We need as many people to access the site as possible and voice > > their > > > > interest . > > > > > > > > By the way , once its release you can purchase this documentary > > film . > > > > > > > > We need to get the word out through the americain autism community > > > > > > > > SO GET THE WORD OUT !!!!!! > > > > > > > > Pierre > > > > montreal canada > > > > > > > > Check out the site two > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I translated it on Babelfish and hope it comes through on this link. (http://tinyurl.com/6rjxbs) Jackie > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > http://tinyurl.com/6oubqa > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding more > places that are interested in showing it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Who OWNS the film? Is this the root of your problem? If someone else (eg NATIONAL FILM BOARD)OWNS the film, and LINA was just paid as the DIRECTOR/PRODUCER the viral film marketing may not be viable. But there may be a 'work-around', similar to what you have done on this list. Just create your own viral videos without video segments from the Documentary...discuss the findings/outcomes - bullet points is a common term. If You or the PRODUCERS OWN the film, I suggest getting trailers on the internet ASAP. It is almost impossible to stop a virtual marketing campaign in the free world. Getting an audience is the challenge. Best, Rick > > > > > > > > > > To the Group > > > > > > > > > > This is trully important , there a award wining documentary > film > > > > > maker Lina Moraco from the National Film Board of Canada has > been > > > > > working for three years on a film on the adverse reaction of > > > vaccines. > > > > > > > > > > See site : > > > > > http://www3.onf.ca/webextension/silence-on-vaccine/ > > > > > > > > > > This film is now ready for release , but it look like there > some > > > > > attemps to hold up this documentary > > > > > > > > > > There are goog people pushing hard for its release within the > > > > > national film Boards . > > > > > \ > > > > > What i need you people to do , is to access the site and > place an > > > > > inquiry when the movie will be release. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing fancy just ask for the release date , we need to draw > > > > > attention to the movie that is all . > > > > > > > > > > We need as many people to access the site as possible and > voice > > > their > > > > > interest . > > > > > > > > > > By the way , once its release you can purchase this > documentary > > > film . > > > > > > > > > > We need to get the word out through the americain autism > community > > > > > > > > > > SO GET THE WORD OUT !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Pierre > > > > > montreal canada > > > > > > > > > > Check out the site two > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 It's amazing. I'm living in France, when autism situation is like 30 years ago in the US. Even ABA is a " taboo " here. So it is amazing to see a film about vaccines damage on TV. BUT... In this summery they are talking about multiple sclerosis and vaccines. (Autism is just mentioned once and by the way) and someone told me that they were obliged to cut the Wakefield interview part of the film... Liora > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > http://tinyurl.com/6oubqa > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding more > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 what kind of numbers of autism do you have in France--if they know and you know?? thanks, maurine Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS / DOCUMENTARY FILM ON AUTISMTo: EOHarm Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 5:47 PM It's amazing.I'm living in France, when autism situation is like 30 years ago in the US.Even ABA is a "taboo" here. So it is amazing to see a film about vaccines damage on TV.BUT...In this summery they are talking about multiple sclerosis and vaccines. (Autism is just mentioned once and by the way) and someone told me that they were obliged to cut the Wakefield interview part of the film...Liora> >> > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding more> > places that are interested in showing it?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Nobody really did the statistic, but an approximation of 1 in 500 to 200 is the current giving number. Everybody in the US are telling me there is autism everywhere, but here in France I don't see a lot of children affected. Surely we have a growing epidemic here also, but not as big as in the US. Liora > > > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > more > > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 In all liklihood because you don't the huge number of mandated vaccines that we do. You do write English awfully well. Have you lived in an English speaking country too or is it just great schooling? Maurine Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS / DOCUMENTARY FILM ON AUTISMTo: EOHarm Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 6:34 PM Nobody really did the statistic, but an approximation of 1 in 500 to 200 is the current giving number.Everybody in the US are telling me there is autism everywhere, but here in France I don't see a lot of children affected. Surely we have a growing epidemic here also, but not as big as in the US.Liora> > >> > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > more> > > places that are interested in showing it?> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 OH, Thanks, I'm Israeli, not French… never the less, It has been 15 years I'm living in France. We have a lot of vaccines here, but not as much as the US. People are generally more aware about nutrition, which is a good thing also. But don't forget we have VERY GOOD social security system, which means that people are very over medicated, this is the bad point. Liora > > > > > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa > > > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > > more > > > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 To get an idea of the issues relating to autism in France look at http://www.fondation-autisme.organd contact e Ferguson.In France the refrigerator mother theory is alive and well. Psychiatrists dominate with their view of autism as a mental illness and not a physiological one,I strongly suspect that because of this children with autism in France are hidden from society's view. They are there.OH, Thanks, I'm Israeli, not French… never the less, It has been 15 years I'm living in France.We have a lot of vaccines here, but not as much as the US. People are generally more aware about nutrition, which is a good thing also.But don't forget we have VERY GOOD social security system, which means that people are very over medicated, this is the bad point.Liora> > > >> > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > > more> > > > places that are interested in showing it?> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 ok Thanks. I do remember reading this kind of information before. Now it all comes back. Maurine OH, Thanks, I'm Israeli, not French… never the less, It has been 15 years I'm living in France.We have a lot of vaccines here, but not as much as the US. People are generally more aware about nutrition, which is a good thing also.But don't forget we have VERY GOOD social security system, which means that people are very over medicated, this is the bad point.Liora> > > >> > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > > more> > > > places that are interested in showing it?> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 I live in Frace, and I will watch it. I will make a sumery of the importants points. Liora > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > http://tinyurl.com/6oubqa > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding more > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 To hapietrout Just for you to understand , there are two version of film short and long version in both french and english . Secondly at this point in time , the north americain right ARE STILL UP IN THE AIR .That why there is no english version available . it is important to understand when NFB release a documentary it is always in both official languages french and english. The fact that only the French short version is being distributed is a indication that there is a problem in regard to the long English version . It is important to note both version in french and english do exist On the 9th of December , the premier will occur in french at the national film boards , office at 9:30 Am The autism communauty in montreal , is already getting organise to pack the house for this presentation . We will see then , I will be talking to lina sometime this week , to see how many American put in a request for the film !! Pierre > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > http://tinyurl.com/6oubqa > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding more > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 I wonder whether Fombonne will show up at the screening Aasa Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS / DOCUMENTARY FILM ON AUTISMTo: EOHarm Received: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 12:10 PM To hapietrout Just for you to understand , there are two version of film short and long version in both french and english .Secondly at this point in time , the north americain right ARE STILL UP IN THE AIR .That why there is no english version available .it is important to understand when NFB release a documentary it is always in both official languages french and english.The fact that only the French short version is being distributed is a indication that there is a problem in regard to the long English version . It is important to note both version in french and english do exist On the 9th of December , the premier will occur in french at the national film boards , office at 9:30 AmThe autism communauty in montreal , is already getting organise to pack the house for this presentation .We will see then , I will be talking to lina sometime this week , to see how many American put in a request for the film !!Pierre > >> > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding more> > places that are interested in showing it?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 AAsa You have trully a perverted mind , but you never know he might come in a custome !!!!1 hihihha !!! > > > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > more > > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 I wasn't trying to be funny, Pierre. In case Fombonne shows up at the screening or at any related events, the focus need to get back to the vaccine-related issues. No fun or puns intended, Aasa Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS / DOCUMENTARY FILM ON AUTISMTo: EOHarm Received: Monday, December 1, 2008, 12:44 AM AAsa You have trully a perverted mind , but you never know he might come in a custome !!!!1hihihha !!!> > >> > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > more> > > places that are interested in showing it?> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 I wasn't trying to be funny, Pierre. In case Fombonne shows up at the screening or at any related events, the focus need to get back to the vaccine-related issues. No fun or puns intended, Aasa Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS / DOCUMENTARY FILM ON AUTISMTo: EOHarm Received: Monday, December 1, 2008, 12:44 AM AAsa You have trully a perverted mind , but you never know he might come in a custome !!!!1hihihha !!!> > >> > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > more> > > places that are interested in showing it?> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 AAssa I got the joke , there is no offense , it is important for you to know , that I have been working hard to get him kick out of McGill for academic miscounduct . But I got some good new from lisa Cher Pierre, The documentary Shots in the Dark, will finally be release, end of january 2009. There is a new WEB adress where anyone can subscribe to receive information about the documentary as soon as it will be release in english.www.nfb.ca/shotsinthedark Start ordering your films also I have a PDF file , I am not sure how to post this on the site it is a two page summary . Aasa I will send you the file directly Pierre > > > > > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa > > > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > > more > > > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Pierre, I'll just forward your message with the attached pdf here. It should open just fine, like it did for me (unless it's one of those things that can only be viewed in Canada, arghh). Those of you who live in the States, please let me know if the attachment cannot be viewed. I won't attach it here, but will forward it from the message Pierre sent me, with the pdf attached. Aasa Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS / DOCUMENTARY FILM ON AUTISMTo: EOHarm Received: Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:48 PM AAssa I got the joke , there is no offense , it is important for you to know , that I have been working hard to get him kick out of McGill for academic miscounduct .But I got some good new from lisa Cher Pierre,The documentary Shots in the Dark, will finally be release, end of january 2009.There is a new WEB adress where anyone can subscribe to receive information about the documentary as soon as it will be release in english.www. nfb.ca/shotsinth edarkStart ordering your films also I have a PDF file , I am not sure how to post this on the site it is a two page summary .Aasa I will send you the file directly Pierre > > > >> > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing...> > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm> > > > http://tinyurl. com/6oubqa> > > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > > more> > > > places that are interested in showing it?> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 dear happietrout This film could be the trigger , that we have been waiting , to start the mobilisation of parents with childreen hurt or killed by vaccine adverse reaction. Lina and I had a interesting discussion about the the film and her personnal objective . it is important to note , that this movie is not against vaccine , but rather about the corruption assocaited with policy ,scientific review and distribution of vaccine. it about the corruption of the scientific review of vaccine , that permitted unsafe vaccine to be introduce in the market . Its about the corruption of our regulatory bodies , such as the CDC or FDA in the US or our Dept of Biologicts in Canada . The vaccine establishement position themselves as the Sacred Cow of the medical communaty , but what people failed to realise , is that it was a " mad Cow " this is a very important nuance , pierre > > > > > > > > It appears to be scheduled for viewing... > > > > Tuesday, December 9th, at 9:45 pm > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6oubqa > > > > > > > > Perhaps the problem lies, not with its release, but in finding > > more > > > > places that are interested in showing it? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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