Stinky house air

[Guest guest]

I've noticed the increased number of products to resolve stinky house air.

Everything but finding the source apparently. Cleaning or getting rid of their

probably moldy air conditioning system should be first step, but anyway, newest

is paint advertised to include baking soda in it, said to continually refreshen

room air. Also a plug in that detects movement and emits a freshening scent

when you arrive!!!

[Guest guest]

Ok, this post may be more political in style than my normal info with

action item style.

At 06:49 AM 9/2/2009, you wrote:

>I've noticed the increased number of products to resolve stinky

>house air. Everything but finding the source apparently.

The magic bullet approach. Pull a trigger on a spray bottle once, or

look and look and look.

>Cleaning or getting rid of their probably moldy air conditioning

>system should be first step,

Nodding agreement. Health first, or time saving convenience?

Or does it same time? Short term yes, long term, no, no, no.

When one's health is impacted, the lost time will be huge. Huge.

>but anyway, newest is paint advertised to include baking soda in it,

>said to continually refreshen room air.

Well, if so, how does it work? By absorbing the offending molecule?

Paint is a highly refined product, able to resist water intrusion,

cleaning, etc.

To think the paint will not resist a 'smelly' molecule, but will grab

it and hold on to it?

Is this a clear cut case of false advertising? Also, will not the baking soda

" fill up " after a few years, and no longer have any capacity to absorb more?

Again, false advertising?

Ok, I may have mislead some. Why? Read below.

Baking soda has long been used in paint to absorb smells in rooms.

People say it works. If one is going to market for it, well show me proof.

Show me your medical studies.

What it does is increase the volume of paint, giving you more paint

to cover more

surface. A low cost way of making paint cover more. But at some disadvantage

in that the paint now contains a molecule that allows the paint to

crack and peel

earlier than it would have otherwise.

These cracks trap moisture and form a dark place for mold colonies to

take root.

Now, modern paints likely have solved this problem? Or not. Buyer beware.

>Also a plug in that detects movement and emits a freshening scent

>when you arrive!!!

Some have infra red heat sensors, and will spray you right in the face.

Do not use toilet stalls with them right overhead.

These are in hotels, mostly in bathrooms, but you can find them in hallways.

Restaurants use them.

I have found that asking for them to be turned off while I am present, has

never been a problem for staff. They remove the batteries while the

event is in progress. Easily asked for.

Disable them by removing the 2 batteries, or offset one battery so it

loses contact.

You will have done the guests a real public health service, imho.

Why? They 'can' include pesticide as well. More below if this legal.

I have heard it can be a cheap source of batteries for the home.

I'd never use them due to the proximity to the scent.

About every fourth one I come across has no batteries.

They now make them with LED lights to indicate the presence of good batteries

and that the unit is on, and functioning. Why? So many batteries were being

removed.

It is ILLEGAL for one of these devices to have pesticide in the State

of California.

Why? It's clearly against the EPA rules for application of the

pesticide. Why?

Under no circumstances does the EPA allow someone to be sprayed in the face,

or inhale the pesticide directly, excepted trained experts in

application of the

pesticide.

Asking a hotel or restaurant to remove them all, or face stiff EPA fines....

is another way to go, once you have confirmed pesticide is in use.

Should work in any state of the union. I know about California as

a group in San Francisco got active and got them outlawed.

Hmm, I think the law passed. This was 2-4 years ago, or more.

[Guest guest]

How horrble about the air freshner.  Europe has scented gasoline.  Air purifier

filters have (Ihave seen)  fabreeze and baking soda in them, nasty  !!

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: barb1283 <barb1283@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:49:53 AM

Subject: [] Stinky house air

 

I've noticed the increased number of products to resolve stinky house air.

[Guest guest]

I would think the baking soda would have limited time value, and you would have

to repaint. Might as well put containers of baking soda around house instead.

I put a woven fabric over the top of my cold air returns, two of them, to catch

larger particles of dirt before they get down into my air system. I could

sprinkle baking soda on those and get better affect I think but then I think I'd

rather smell whatever is in the air, unless baking soda actually DOES clean the

air. I don't understand how baking soda helps. If germ comes in contact with

baking soda, may kill it, and that may help but wouldn't help really sick house,

because then you would have toxins. Unless baking soda has some sort of ability

to 'absorb' small particles...does anyone know????? I've never understood

baking soda's ability to deodorize. I could easily put my air through baking

soda since my cold air returns are on the floor, but some baking soda dust would

probably work itself through the fabric over my cold air returns and end up in

the air system 'I guess'.

>

> Ok, this post may be more political in style than my normal info with

> action item style.