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disgusting. I have never seen anything like this at my grandson's school. If so, they would certainly hear from me.

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Subject: here is something that came up at a Teacher's websiteTo: EOHarm , AutismCommunityDemocrats Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:11 AM

here is an example that teachers are asked to print off and give to their students. Every child by two is really pushing the envelope on vaccines. Rubyhttp://www.sites4te achers.com/ links/redirect. php?url=http: //www.ecbt. org/resources/ media/pdf/ 2006ECBTColoring BookEnglish. pdf

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I have been doing a whole lot of research into the high stakes testing,

and outcome based education agenda. It is clearly a socialist program

promoted by Department of Education, that is pushing school to work

agendas for the big corporations. If you follow the trail you will find

an education system based on Dewey the so called father of modern

education. He did not think too much of literacy because literate kids

grow up to be inelligent adults and they ask to many questions. He

beleived that the government should control the schools and the social,

emotional education of out children. The Herd menality (where have we

heard that phrase before?) Everything is sacraficed for the community.

A true socialistic agenda. Any parents that resist are considered

desenters. Start paying very close attention to your childrens school

work, look at some of the test questions, look at the books they want

your children to read, and pay attention to the kinds of manipulating

questions they are being asked to answer. Its all about being part of

the team, no one gets to shine. This is not education its mind control

and conditioning starting at a very young age. The true educators are

leaving the field. The younger teachers are being trained and

indoctrinated into this type of education. This coloring book does not

surprise me at all. You can rant and rave all you want. They'll just

apologize and keep doing it. I bought my granddaughter two DVD's about

the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I wanted her

to learn about it because all they are teaching in school now is world

Government. When I told her I wanted her to learn about this she

said " I don't think my teacher will like that! " I almost fell off my

seat. I am seriously considering pulling her out of public school next

year and home schooling her.

Peggy

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> here is an example that teachers are asked to print off and give to

> their students. Every child by two is really pushing the envelope on

> vaccines. Ruby

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>

>

> http://www.sites4teachers.com/links/redirect.php?

url=http://www.ecbt.org/resources/media/pdf/2006ECBTColoringBookEnglish.

pdf

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Peggy Rose wrote:

> I have been doing a whole lot of research into the high stakes testing,

> and outcome based education agenda. It is clearly a socialist program

> promoted by Department of Education, that is pushing school to work

> agendas for the big corporations. If you follow the trail you will find

> an education system based on Dewey the so called father of modern

> education. He did not think too much of literacy because literate kids

> grow up to be inelligent adults and they ask to many questions. He

> beleived that the government should control the schools and the social,

> emotional education of out children. The Herd menality (where have we

> heard that phrase before?) Everything is sacraficed for the community.

> A true socialistic agenda. Any parents that resist are considered

> desenters. Start paying very close attention to your childrens school

> work, look at some of the test questions, look at the books they want

> your children to read, and pay attention to the kinds of manipulating

> questions they are being asked to answer. Its all about being part of

> the team, no one gets to shine. This is not education its mind control

> and conditioning starting at a very young age. The true educators are

> leaving the field. The younger teachers are being trained and

> indoctrinated into this type of education. This coloring book does not

> surprise me at all. You can rant and rave all you want. They'll just

> apologize and keep doing it. I bought my granddaughter two DVD's about

> the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I wanted her

> to learn about it because all they are teaching in school now is world

> Government. When I told her I wanted her to learn about this she

> said " I don't think my teacher will like that! " I almost fell off my

> seat. I am seriously considering pulling her out of public school next

> year and home schooling her.

>

> Peggy

>

>

I agree with you 100%. I already do homeschool my kids. granted they

are 9 and 2 y but I think that there is more to school than the " herd "

mentality. My DH is a PS social studies teacher but believes in

teaching about the " old world " style of teaching. His specialty is

American History and American Government. He is a political memorabilia

specialist. He wants the next generation to have an appreciation of

the constitution and the Bill of Rights while they still mean

something. Our sons will be raised with a healthy respect for this but

knowing that our world is changing and that they have the ability to

change it back to what the founding fathers wanted our country to be like.

MY RANT is about they are teaching the teachers to teach this.

Ruby

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I think you toss the term"socialism" around a bit too much and what goes on in the schools is called "indoctrination" This has been going on for years. A book that came out in 2003 called "The Language Police" and How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn--

by Daine Ravitch can give you a good idea of what happens in our schools. I wouldn't call this socialism-more totalitarianism to me.

Maurine> I have been doing a whole lot of research into the high stakes testing, > and outcome based education agenda. It is clearly a socialist program > promoted by Department of Education, that is pushing school to work > agendas for the big corporations. If you follow the trail you will find > an education system based on Dewey the so called father of modern > education. He did not think too much of literacy because literate kids > grow up to be inelligent adults and they ask to many questions. He > beleived that the government should control the schools and the social, > emotional education of out children. The Herd menality (where have we > heard that phrase before?) Everything is sacraficed for the community. > A true socialistic agenda. Any parents that resist are considered > desenters. Start paying very close attention to your childrens

school > work, look at some of the test questions, look at the books they want > your children to read, and pay attention to the kinds of manipulating > questions they are being asked to answer. Its all about being part of > the team, no one gets to shine. This is not education its mind control > and conditioning starting at a very young age. The true educators are > leaving the field. The younger teachers are being trained and > indoctrinated into this type of education. This coloring book does not > surprise me at all. You can rant and rave all you want. They'll just > apologize and keep doing it. I bought my granddaughter two DVD's about > the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I wanted her > to learn about it because all they are teaching in school now is world > Government. When I told her I wanted her to learn about this she > said "I

don't think my teacher will like that!" I almost fell off my > seat. I am seriously considering pulling her out of public school next > year and home schooling her. >> Peggy> > I agree with you 100%. I already do homeschool my kids. granted they are 9 and 2 y but I think that there is more to school than the "herd" mentality. My DH is a PS social studies teacher but believes in teaching about the "old world" style of teaching. His specialty is American History and American Government. He is a political memorabilia specialist. He wants the next generation to have an appreciation of the constitution and the Bill of Rights while they still mean something. Our sons will be raised with a healthy respect for this but knowing that our world is changing and that they have the ability to change it back to what the founding fathers wanted our country to be like.MY RANT is about

they are teaching the teachers to teach this. Ruby

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" Animal Farm " anyone?

CGF

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> Subject: here is something that came up at a Teacher's

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> To: EOHarm , AutismCommunityDemocrats

> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 8:11 AM

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>

>

>

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> here is an example that teachers are asked to print off and give to

> their students. Every child by two is really pushing the envelope

on

> vaccines. Ruby

>

> http://www.sites4te achers.com/ links/redirect. php?

url=http: //www.ecbt. org/resources/ media/pdf/ 2006ECBTColoring

BookEnglish. pdf

>

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OK. Say whatever you want about Offitt, but let's not slander Dewey. I'm writing a memoir/history of Ernest Horn, an educator at the University of Iowa who studied with Dewey and others at Teacher's College, Colulmbia University 1912-1914. Dewey was a brilliant mind, and gave American Education the idea that "children learn by doing, not by sitting in straight rows and listening" now called "active learning." He especially wanted children to learn to think for themselves, and advocated that even children could follow the scientific method as they worked on problems.The high stakes testing program you refer to must be No Child Left Behind -- a program passed by Republicans, not

many of whom are known socialists.To: EOHarm Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:07:02 AMSubject: Re: here is something that came up at a Teacher's website

I have been doing a whole lot of research into the high stakes testing,

and outcome based education agenda. It is clearly a socialist program

promoted by Department of Education, that is pushing school to work

agendas for the big corporations. If you follow the trail you will find

an education system based on Dewey the so called father of modern

education. He did not think too much of literacy because literate kids

grow up to be inelligent adults and they ask to many questions. He

beleived that the government should control the schools and the social,

emotional education of out children. The Herd menality (where have we

heard that phrase before?) Everything is sacraficed for the community.

A true socialistic agenda. Any parents that resist are considered

desenters. Start paying very close attention to your childrens school

work, look at some of the test questions, look at the books they want

your children to read, and pay attention to the kinds of manipulating

questions they are being asked to answer. Its all about being part of

the team, no one gets to shine. This is not education its mind control

and conditioning starting at a very young age. The true educators are

leaving the field. The younger teachers are being trained and

indoctrinated into this type of education. This coloring book does not

surprise me at all. You can rant and rave all you want. They'll just

apologize and keep doing it. I bought my granddaughter two DVD's about

the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I wanted her

to learn about it because all they are teaching in school now is world

Government. When I told her I wanted her to learn about this she

said "I don't think my teacher will like that!" I almost fell off my

seat. I am seriously considering pulling her out of public school next

year and home schooling her.

Peggy

>

> here is an example that teachers are asked to print off and give to

> their students. Every child by two is really pushing the envelope on

> vaccines. Ruby

>

>

>

>

> http://www.sites4te achers.com/ links/redirect. php?

url=http://www.ecbt. org/resources/ media/pdf/ 2006ECBTColoring BookEnglish.

pdf

>

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Maurine,

Another really good book is by Charlotte Iserbyt (The

Deliberate Dumbing Down Of America) she was the head of Dept of Ed

during the Reagan years.

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/book.htm

The first step on the road to Totalitariansism is socialism. Its a

gradual transition. I agree with you, but I also disagree. I think

what we have in the schools is a socialistic type of agenda, But what

is happening in our Governemnt is Totalitarianism, Authoritarian,

Fascism whatever you want to call it. We are losing our individual

rights, and Freedom.

Peggy

> > I have been doing a whole lot of research into the high stakes

testing,

> > and outcome based education agenda. It is clearly a socialist

program

> > promoted by Department of Education, that is pushing school to

work

> > agendas for the big corporations. If you follow the trail you

will find

> > an education system based on Dewey the so called father of

modern

> > education. He did not think too much of literacy because literate

kids

> > grow up to be inelligent adults and they ask to many questions.

He

> > beleived that the government should control the schools and the

social,

> > emotional education of out children. The Herd menality (where

have we

> > heard that phrase before?) Everything is sacraficed for the

community.

> > A true socialistic agenda. Any parents that resist are considered

> > desenters. Start paying very close attention to your childrens

school

> > work, look at some of the test questions, look at the books they

want

> > your children to read, and pay attention to the kinds of

manipulating

> > questions they are being asked to answer. Its all about being

part of

> > the team, no one gets to shine. This is not education its mind

control

> > and conditioning starting at a very young age. The true educators

are

> > leaving the field. The younger teachers are being trained and

> > indoctrinated into this type of education. This coloring book

does not

> > surprise me at all. You can rant and rave all you want. They'll

just

> > apologize and keep doing it. I bought my granddaughter two DVD's

about

> > the Revolution, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I

wanted her

> > to learn about it because all they are teaching in school now is

world

> > Government. When I told her I wanted her to learn about this she

> > said " I don't think my teacher will like that! " I almost fell off

my

> > seat. I am seriously considering pulling her out of public school

next

> > year and home schooling her.

> >

> > Peggy

> >

> >

> I agree with you 100%. I already do homeschool my kids. granted

they

> are 9 and 2 y but I think that there is more to school than

the " herd "

> mentality. My DH is a PS social studies teacher but believes in

> teaching about the " old world " style of teaching. His specialty is

> American History and American Government. He is a political

memorabilia

> specialist. He wants the next generation to have an appreciation of

> the constitution and the Bill of Rights while they still mean

> something. Our sons will be raised with a healthy respect for this

but

> knowing that our world is changing and that they have the ability

to

> change it back to what the founding fathers wanted our country to

be like.

> MY RANT is about they are teaching the teachers to teach this.

> Ruby

>

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, I don't think you're being very objective about Dewey's

ultimate goals and agendas for public education. Have you read any of

Gatto's books that reveal less " mainstream " insights into

Dewey, the man?

If you're not already aware, Gatto is a former New York

State and New York City Teacher of the Year and author.

Here's an entire book online of Gatto's, although I haven't

personally read this one, but I have read a few other of his books.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/edu/education-freedom.php

> >

> > here is an example that teachers are asked to print off and give

to

> > their students. Every child by two is really pushing the

envelope on

> > vaccines. Ruby

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.sites4te achers.com/ links/redirect. php?

> url=http://www.ecbt. org/resources/ media/pdf/ 2006ECBTColoring

BookEnglish.

> pdf

> >

>

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