Re: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinated

[Guest guest]

OMG, this is how brain dead these people are. I can't even believe

that they admitted all the kids that came down with it were

vaccinated. How did dou keep from laughing in their face? Just

curious, did they do cultures on these kids to find out if it was

really the vaccine preventable whooping cough, and not parapertussis?

I would demand they confirm before my child was kicked out of school

for 21 days.

Read this

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/immunize/Documents/G.%

20Parapertussis_Wisconsin%20guidelines.pdf

>

> Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

>

> I thought I would share my experience this week with 's

school.

> Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive

> candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back

> out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.

>

> The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says her

> name, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son,

Black.

> The next message is from County Schools, the person needs to

> speak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is the

> third call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start driving

> to the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,

> NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes before.

>

> I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or if

> something has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting in

> the office and to hold on. The school nurse gets on the phone.

>

> She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough.

> is " undervaccinated " and he has to be out of school for 21

> days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would be

> right there.

>

> By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools is

> also at the school. is sitting in the office. We go into

> another room. They start questioning me about 's vaccinations,

> why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had a

> religious exemption and if she had any further questions, she could

> ask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting other

> children at risk by not vaccinating . I asked if the child

> that had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said " yes " .

>

> She says that there has been an " outbreak " of whooping cough in

> County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all the

> children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated, and

> again, she said " yes " . So, I asked if all the other children in

> 's class would have to go home for 21 days, since the

> vaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know the

> answer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with

> County Schools says they were seeing the " outbreak " happening with

> mostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.

>

> They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.

> She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they have

> jurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be out

> of school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,

> because she was calling in an antibiotic for that he was to

> start immediately. I said she would not be calling in an antibiotic,

> she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics and

> I would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his ped

> needed to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP. In

> addition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not be

> allowed to return to school for 21 days.

>

> At this point, I want to scream. The County School person

> says to me that she understands my " theory " of not wanting to

> vaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the desk

> and my hands were clenched. I kept thinking... " don't hit her. " I

> said, " Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a

> 105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaP

> shot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong. He

> then lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went out

> in his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me about

> theory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching and

> clawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in

to. "

>

> The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the floor

> and kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be said

> about throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.

>

> So, here's the kicker. The child that has whooping cough actually

> had been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him right

> back to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on an

> antibiotic for 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.

> He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of

this

> week. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn't

> have it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.

>

> What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to

the

> lunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him down

> to the music room and told him because he didn't have all his shots,

> he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to his

> room, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him back

> down to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treated

> like he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with the

> child for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours have

> made a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be drug

> out of the lunchroom. was so upset...he wanted to stay and

> take his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.

>

> Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to be

> aware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are

doing.

> Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because

he

> didn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation period is 5-10

> days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as much

> as 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from getting

> whooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you come

> down with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he come

> down with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.

>

> The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting up

> crisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. I

> told the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of

was

> hysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll be sending me a

> Christmas card.

>

> I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful does

> not have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's talking

> and arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye

when

> he's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. We are

> blessed.

>

> Happy Thanksgiving,

> Betsy

> mother to , 11 and undervaccinated

>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately this is not an uncommon practice in most school districts all over the country. I can understand your anger especially since the vaccine doesn't really work, but I think you just have to grin and bear the 21 days. it's still better than having a vaccinated child.

maurine

PS I think it allows you to demand a home bound teacher or whatever they call it these days. Be sure you get that so he keeps up with his work.

Subject: Re: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinatedTo: EOHarm Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:47 AM

OMG, this is how brain dead these people are. I can't even believe that they admitted all the kids that came down with it were vaccinated. How did dou keep from laughing in their face? Just curious, did they do cultures on these kids to find out if it was really the vaccine preventable whooping cough, and not parapertussis?I would demand they confirm before my child was kicked out of school for 21 days.Read thishttp://www.cdph. ca.gov/programs/ immunize/ Documents/ G.%20Parapertussis_ Wisconsin% 20guidelines. pdf >> Happy Thanksgiving everyone!> > I thought I would share my experience this week with 's

school.> Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive> candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back> out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.> > The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says her> name, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son, Black.> The next message is from County Schools, the person needs to> speak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is the> third call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start driving> to the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,> NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes before.> > I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or if> something has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting in> the office and to hold on. The

school nurse gets on the phone.> > She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough.> is "undervaccinated" and he has to be out of school for 21> days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would be> right there.> > By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools is> also at the school. is sitting in the office. We go into> another room. They start questioning me about 's vaccinations,> why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had a> religious exemption and if she had any further questions, she could> ask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting other> children at risk by not vaccinating . I asked if the child> that had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said "yes".> > She says that there has been an "outbreak" of whooping cough

in > County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all the> children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated, and> again, she said "yes". So, I asked if all the other children in> 's class would have to go home for 21 days, since the> vaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know the> answer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with > County Schools says they were seeing the "outbreak" happening with> mostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.> > They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.> She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they have> jurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be out> of school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,> because she was calling in an antibiotic for

that he was to> start immediately. I said she would not be calling in an antibiotic,> she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics and> I would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his ped> needed to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP. In> addition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not be> allowed to return to school for 21 days.> > At this point, I want to scream. The County School person> says to me that she understands my "theory" of not wanting to> vaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the desk> and my hands were clenched. I kept thinking..." don't hit her." I> said, "Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a> 105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaP> shot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong.

He> then lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went out> in his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me about> theory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching and> clawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in to."> > The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the floor> and kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be said> about throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.> > So, here's the kicker. The child that has whooping cough actually> had been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him right> back to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on an> antibiotic for 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.> He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of this> week. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF

SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn't> have it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.> > What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to the> lunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him down> to the music room and told him because he didn't have all his shots,> he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to his> room, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him back> down to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treated> like he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with the> child for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours have> made a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be drug> out of the lunchroom. was so upset...he wanted to stay and> take his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.> >

Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to be> aware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are doing.> Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because he> didn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation period is 5-10> days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as much> as 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from getting> whooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you come> down with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he come> down with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.> > The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting up> crisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. I> told the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of was> hysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll

be sending me a> Christmas card.> > I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful does> not have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's talking> and arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye when> he's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. We are> blessed.> > Happy Thanksgiving,> Betsy> mother to , 11 and undervaccinated>

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine they pushed her 8 and 12 yr old out of school here in

NY for not having the chickenpox shot, so she got creative and used the

time to make sure her kids got the pox over and done with. While I

don't think this is what should be done with whooping cough, I don't

see the harm doing it with pox, measles, or the other 1 time things

such as mumps. People need to wake up and take back control.

Re: kicked out of school 21

days...undervaccinated

To: EOHarm

Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:47 AM

OMG, this is how brain dead these people are. I can't even believe

that they admitted all the kids that came down with it were

vaccinated. How did dou keep from laughing in their face? Just

curious, did they do cultures on these kids to find out if it was

really the vaccine preventable whooping cough, and not parapertussis?

I would demand they confirm before my child was kicked out of school

for 21 days.

Read this

http://www.cdph. ca.gov/programs/ immunize/ Documents/ G.%

20Parapertussis_ Wisconsin% 20guidelines. pdf

>

> Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

>

> I thought I would share my experience this week with 's

school.

> Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive

> candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back

> out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.

>

> The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says her

> name, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son,

Black.

> The next message is from County Schools, the person needs to

> speak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is the

> third call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start driving

> to the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,

> NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes before.

>

> I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or if

> something has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting in

> the office and to hold on. The

school nurse gets on the phone.

>

> She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough.

> is " undervaccinated " and he has to be out of school for 21

> days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would be

> right there.

>

> By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools is

> also at the school. is sitting in the office. We go into

> another room. They start questioning me about 's vaccinations,

> why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had a

> religious exemption and if she had any further questions, she could

> ask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting other

> children at risk by not vaccinating . I asked

if the child

> that had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said " yes " .

>

> She says that there has been an " outbreak " of whooping cough

in

> County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all the

> children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated, and

> again, she said " yes " . So, I asked if all the other children in

> 's class would have to go home for 21 days, since the

> vaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know the

> answer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with

> County Schools says they were seeing the " outbreak " happening with

> mostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.

>

> They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.

> She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they have

> jurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be out

> of school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,

> because she was calling in an antibiotic for

that he was to

> start immediately. I said she would not be calling in an antibiotic,

> she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics and

> I would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his ped

> needed to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP

.. In

> addition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not be

> allowed to return to school for 21 days.

>

> At this point, I want to scream. The County School person

> says to me that she understands my " theory " of not wanting to

> vaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the desk

> and my hands were clenched. I kept thinking... " don't hit her. " I

> said, " Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a

> 105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaP

> shot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong.

He

> then lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went out

> in his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me about

> theory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching and

> clawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in

to. "

>

> The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the floor

> and kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be said

> about throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.

>

> So, here's the kicker. The child that has whooping cough actually

> had been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him right

> back to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on an

> antibiotic for 5 days,

after which you aren't contagious anymore.

> He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of

this

> week. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF

SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn't

> have it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.

>

> What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to

the

> lunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him down

> to the music room and told him because he didn't have all his shots,

> he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to his

> room, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him back

> down to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treated

> like he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with the

> child for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours have

> made a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be drug

> out of the lunchroom. was so upset...he wanted to stay and

> take his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.

>

>

Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to be

> aware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are

doing.

> Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because

he

> didn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation perio

d is 5-10

> days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as much

> as 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from getting

> whooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you come

> down with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he come

> down with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.

>

> The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting up

> crisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. I

> told the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of

was

> hysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll

be sending me a

> Christmas card.

>

> I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful does

> not have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's talking

> and arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye

when

> he's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. We are

> blessed.

>

> Happy Thanksgiving,

> Betsy

> mother to , 11 and undervaccinated

>

[Guest guest]

This is segregation-- sort of " separate and unequal " . I think the

schools could be made to pay for tutors for doing this if we embarked

on a really organized legal campaign.

So sorry your boy had to go through this. I'm sure my family will have

the same experience once our vax-injured (and no longer vaccinated)

children are in school, so I'll take your post as a kind of " tour

guide " . Thank you.

>

> Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

>

> I thought I would share my experience this week with 's school.

> Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive

> candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back

> out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I asked if all the children that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated, andagain, she said "yes". So, I asked if all the other children in's class would have to go home for 21 days, since thevaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know theanswer...no, because they got their shots.So, here's the kicker. The child that has whooping cough actuallyhad been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him rightback to school. You can't fix stupid) I'd take this to every friendly media person you know (ARE there any?). If the kids who came down were vaccinated.. That is very very very wrong, and not only puts serious questions into the 'efficacy' of the vaccination program, but also people's health, or so says the CDC, AAP, and all other organizations that "only have our heath at heart" (sarcasm drips).. I wonder how many other schools this has been repeated at? When is a really big study showing widespread vaccination failure going to come out? Yeah, the AAP/CDC's response will be that we need more vaccination, to suppress the virus in spite of those for whom the vaccine "fails to protect".. That argument makes a sort of twisted sense - but makes less and less sense the higher the percentage of vaccine failure gets.. Which begs the questsion - how high is it? The school might have been right to send you son home - but for the wrong reasons. Not because he could spread whooping cough. Because his body probably can't produce antibodies against it in any case. But can't expect the foot soldiers to be immunologists - or even know the most basic things you learn if you're in the 'autism constellation' for 8 months and have half a brain.. Uugh!Jim

[Guest guest]

schools are required by law to send a teacher to the home-guess the number of hours might depend on the school distict.(at least this is true where I live and it has happened here.)

Maurine

Subject: Re: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinatedTo: EOHarm Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:50 AM

This is segregation- - sort of "separate and unequal". I think the schools could be made to pay for tutors for doing this if we embarked on a really organized legal campaign. So sorry your boy had to go through this. I'm sure my family will have the same experience once our vax-injured (and no longer vaccinated) children are in school, so I'll take your post as a kind of "tour guide". Thank you. >> Happy Thanksgiving everyone!> > I thought I would share my experience this week with 's school.> Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votive> candles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come back> out and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.>

>

[Guest guest]

Maurine:

I asked for a homebound teacher. The response from the school district was because of the holiday week this week, and getting the IEP team together to meet, sign papers and then find a teacher, it would almost be time for him to go back to school. So, no homebound teacher. Actually, I'm okay with that after I thought about it. What if they sent me some stupid or horrible person, it would just be one more thing to get through. His teachers (who are wonderful) will all give me assignments to complete while he's home. At least we can do all of this in the comfort of our pajamas, so there is a silver lining. Additionally, he goes to resource one hour each day, so I will request that they use that time once he's back to also catch up on missed work.

BetsyLife should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

well even though you are satisfied with that homebound teacher thing--I would still check with the legality of it. Sounds suspicious to me-------------if this should ever happen again-you can be prepared---if it was just this week---he still has some time to go at home regardless of the holiday.

Maurine

Subject: Re: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinatedTo: EOHarm Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:25 AM

Maurine:

I asked for a homebound teacher. The response from the school district was because of the holiday week this week, and getting the IEP team together to meet, sign papers and then find a teacher, it would almost be time for him to go back to school. So, no homebound teacher. Actually, I'm okay with that after I thought about it. What if they sent me some stupid or horrible person, it would just be one more thing to get through. His teachers (who are wonderful) will all give me assignments to complete while he's home. At least we can do all of this in the comfort of our pajamas, so there is a silver lining. Additionally, he goes to resource one hour each day, so I will request that they use that time once he's back to also catch up on missed work.

Betsy

Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

He has had the DTaP before

yes?

Your ped can run a titers test to see if he still has the immunity from

his previous DPT vaccine. If so, they have to let him back in school.

Maurine Meleck wrote:

well even though you are satisfied with that homebound

teacher thing--I would still check with the legality of it. Sounds

suspicious to me-------------if this should ever happen again-you

can be prepared---if it was just this week---he still has some time to

go at home regardless of the holiday.

Maurine

From:

bhensonblackAOL <bhensonblackAOL>

Subject: Re: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinated

To: EOHarm

Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:25 AM

Maurine:

I asked for a homebound teacher. The response from the

school district was because of the holiday week this week, and getting

the IEP team together to meet, sign papers and then find a teacher, it

would almost be time for him to go back to school. So, no homebound

teacher. Actually, I'm okay with that after I thought about it. What

if they sent me some stupid or horrible person, it would just be one

more thing to get through. His teachers (who are wonderful) will all

give me assignments to complete while he's home. At least we can do

all of this in the comfort of our pajamas, so there is a silver

lining. Additionally, he goes to resource one hour each day, so I will

request that they use that time once he's back to also catch up on

missed work.

Betsy

Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Ginger...we did titres before kindergarten. Only his tetanus was within the immune range. His measles and rubella were also off the charts high, so we had to file religious exemption.

Thanks for the thought...

BetsyLife should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

My children have all their vaccines current. This was done before I became aware of this vaccine crisis. I don't get how an vaccinated child can get the disease then another unvaccinated child be accuse of being an "typhoid " .

Currently, I get pre-recorded phone calls from my childrens school system "encouraging" me to get them vaccinated for the flu.

Do you ever think where is the main conspiracy in this vaccine issue? Is it for increasing the wealth of the pharms? or To create an whole new society of people that can be manipulated in low income or dangerous jobs or ex-spendable people for the military through brain damaging drugs disguise at first to do good? or is this a little of both.

Its sounds like a brave new world.

Again sorry about troubles... Have a Merry christmas.

Debra

To: EOHarm From: bhensonblack@...Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:29:51 +0000Subject: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinated

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!I thought I would share my experience this week with 's school.Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to a store to grab some votivecandles. I was in the store for less than 5 minutes. I come backout and my cell phone is buzzing. I have three messages.The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. She says hername, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son, Black.The next message is from County Schools, the person needs tospeak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is thethird call needing me immediately. I get in my car and start drivingto the school. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,NO one is at their desk, yet they had just called me minutes before.I call the school and ask the secretary if is okay or ifsomething has horribly gone wrong. She said was sitting inthe office and to hold on. The school nurse gets on the phone.She tells me that some child in 's class has whooping cough. is "undervaccinated" and he has to be out of school for 21days. He has to leave the premisis immediately. I said I would beright there.By the time I get there, the head person for County Schools isalso at the school. is sitting in the office. We go intoanother room. They start questioning me about 's vaccinations,why didn't he get his boosters at kindergarten. I told them we had areligious exemption and if she had any further questions, she couldask my attorney. She goes on to say that we are putting otherchildren at risk by not vaccinating . I asked if the childthat had whooping cough had been vaccinated and she said "yes".She says that there has been an "outbreak" of whooping cough in County (I think right now it is less than 10). I asked if all thechildren that have come down with whooping cough are vaccinated, andagain, she said "yes". So, I asked if all the other children in's class would have to go home for 21 days, since thevaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well. You know theanswer...no, because they got their shots. The woman with County Schools says they were seeing the "outbreak" happening withmostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch that year.They put me on the phone with the woman at the Health Department.She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic, they havejurisdiction over County Schools. would have to be outof school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy we used,because she was calling in an antibiotic for that he was tostart immediately. I said she would not be calling in an antibiotic,she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to two antibiotics andI would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me that his pedneeded to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and the AAP. Inaddition, if started the antibiotic, he still would not beallowed to return to school for 21 days.At this point, I want to scream. The County School personsays to me that she understands my "theory" of not wanting tovaccinate . I saw colors in my head. I leaned across the deskand my hands were clenched. I kept thinking..."don't hit her." Isaid, "Theory? I watched start screaming, breaking out in a105 fever, rash all over his body two days after his 18 month DTaPshot. We took him to the hospital. No one knew what was wrong. Hethen lost all his words, quit looking at us and the lights went outin his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk to me abouttheory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratching andclawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped in to."The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on the floorand kick anything that got in the way. There's something to be saidabout throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.So, here's the kicker. The child that has whooping cough actuallyhad been diagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him rightback to school. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on anantibiotic for 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.He was at school every day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of thisweek. HE NEVER MISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn'thave it at all, and isn't allowed to come back for 21 days.What I am most pissed about is that the school nurse went down to thelunchroom, pulled out in front of all the kids, took him downto the music room and told him because he didn't have all his shots,he would have to miss 21 days of school. She marched him down to hisroom, got his bookbag from the sidewalk, and then marched him backdown to the office where he stayed until we left. He was treatedlike he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. He had sat in a room with thechild for weeks while he was contagious. Would two more hours havemade a difference? Couldn't he have finished the day and not be drugout of the lunchroom. was so upset...he wanted to stay andtake his spelling test. He will also miss his Christmas program.Just in case any of this happens to you all, you might want to beaware of what our friends at the CDC and Health Department are doing.Our pediatrician felt like he was being made an example of because hedidn't have his kindergarten boosters. The incubation period is 5-10days for whooping cough. In some rare instances, it has been as muchas 21 days. AND, taking an antibiotic won't keep you from gettingwhooping cough, it will only make you non contagious after you comedown with the symptoms. I have the prescription, and should he comedown with symptoms, then I will give him the antibiotic.The reason no one was at their desk was because they were setting upcrisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child at our school. Itold the woman that the only thing I saw there was an outbreak of washysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll be sending me aChristmas card.I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I am thankful doesnot have whooping cough and that he is undervaccinated, he's talkingand arguing with me like a 5th grader, he looks at me in the eye whenhe's arguing with me and he is just the love of our lives. We areblessed.Happy Thanksgiving,Betsymother to , 11 and undervaccinated Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. Get your Hotmail® account.

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Well, not too long ago it was reported that our water supply was contaminated with pharmacial drugs that have been flushed into our septic system. Well, who is also to point out the idea that it could also be in our waste.

Our whole planet and our bodies is contaminated by products of chemicals that are unnatural. In the name of progress our trees, countrysides are knocked down and bulldozed to make way for building of factories and other developements. Our bodies and our land is slowly poisoned by chemicals that supposed to "enhance" and improve our lives... but to what cost.

At one time vaccines help, but now it seems to harm. To get vaccinated these days is almost like playing russian roulette. According to andrews mom post the children who contracted the virus had the vaccine, but it must have been an bad batch. That only prove to me that the pharms cannot be trusted and if one bad batch could fail to protect, then another could be fatal. But yet they hid behind the skirt of the good ol' USof A government body to protect them and force us and our children to be lab rats.

I don't trust the government, the government is ran by the corporations because the corporations is the government. Look at the recent bail outs... the government will look out for the corps before they will look out for our best interests in the name of profits at the expense of our children health and lives, even the adults (parents).

Sorry for the rant... but I feel for s mom. During her post I visualize her throwing tantrums and other things. Being powerless in a flood of emotions of doing or saying the wrong thing that could result other legal problems. Keeping a cool head in that situation had to been taxing at its best. My thought would be turning into a fang monster ripping out their jagular veins. As a parent it is our rights and responsiblity to protect our children when we feel harm is possible. The government as well as the pharms are playing with our children thru legal means of the law.

Thanks

Debra

To: EOHarm From: eener@...Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:55:19 +0000Subject: Re: kicked out of school 21 days...undervaccinated

Absolutley Debra! But it's not isolated to conspiracy, it extends tototal neglect and lack of compassion for faceless humans that comprisesociety.It's also not isolated to vaccines... look at our food additives.Aspartame in particular. It was never considered safe when approved.Never. And not now. In fact, it's known to be a dangerous chemical.The interesting thing is, aspartame has found it's way into countlessproducts that are not "diet". They are mixing aspartame with sugar inkids candy, for no good reason. Synthetic food dyes are anotherculprit... And those are just the obvious ones.It's the dumbing down of society for control, just as you said. Italso helps maintain a "sick" society to maintain the multi-billiondollar drug industry."They" really don't care. We've got to keep demanding change, but ourgreatest success will be in seizing control of our lives and doingwhatever we can "off-grid", with independent control of our foodsupply, water, etc.>> > My children have all their vaccines current. This was done before Ibecame aware of this vaccine crisis. I don't get how an vaccinatedchild can get the disease then another unvaccinated child be accuse ofbeing an "typhoid " . > > Currently, I get pre-recorded phone calls from my childrens schoolsystem "encouraging" me to get them vaccinated for the flu.> > Do you ever think where is the main conspiracy in this vaccineissue? Is it for increasing the wealth of the pharms? or To create anwhole new society of people that can be manipulated in low income ordangerous jobs or ex-spendable people for the military through braindamaging drugs disguise at first to do good? or is this a little of both.> > Its sounds like a brave new world.> > Again sorry about troubles... Have a Merry christmas.> > Debra> > > > To: EOHarm@...: bhensonblack@...: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:29:51+0000Subject: kicked out of school 21days...undervaccinated> > > > Happy Thanksgiving everyone!I thought I would share my experiencethis week with 's school.Monday, around lunchtime, I ran in to astore to grab some votivecandles. I was in the store for less than 5minutes. I come backout and my cell phone is buzzing. I have threemessages.The first one is from a woman at the Health Department. Shesays hername, she needs to talk to me immediately about my son, Black.The next message is from County Schools, the person needstospeak with me immediately about my son. The school nurse is thethirdcall needing me immediately. I get in my car and start drivingto theschool. My heart is pounding. I'm dialing these people back,NO one isat their desk, yet they had just called me minutes before.I call theschool and ask the secretary if is okay or ifsomething hashorribly gone wrong. She said was sitting inthe office and tohold on. The school nurse gets on the phone.She tells me that somechild in 's class has whooping cough. is "undervaccinated"and he has to be out of school for 21days. He has to leave thepremisis immediately. I said I would beright there.By the time I getthere, the head person for County Schools isalso at the school. is sitting in the office. We go intoanother room. They startquestioning me about 's vaccinations,why didn't he get hisboosters at kindergarten. I told them we had areligious exemption andif she had any further questions, she couldask my attorney. She goeson to say that we are putting otherchildren at risk by not vaccinating. I asked if the childthat had whooping cough had beenvaccinated and she said "yes".She says that there has been an"outbreak" of whooping cough in County (I think right now it isless than 10). I asked if all thechildren that have come down withwhooping cough are vaccinated, andagain, she said "yes". So, I askedif all the other children in's class would have to go home for21 days, since thevaccinated children seemed to be at risk as well.You know theanswer...no, because they got their shots. The woman withCounty Schools says they were seeing the "outbreak" happeningwithmostly 5th graders, so that must have been a bad batch thatyear.They put me on the phone with the woman at the HealthDepartment.She explains to me when there is an outbreak or epidemic,they havejurisdiction over County Schools. would have tobe outof school for 21 days. She wanted to know what pharmacy weused,because she was calling in an antibiotic for that he wastostart immediately. I said she would not be calling in anantibiotic,she was not his doctor, he is highly allergic to twoantibiotics andI would take him to his pediatrian. She informs me thathis pedneeded to follow the guidelines set forth by the CDC and theAAP. Inaddition, if started the antibiotic, he still would notbeallowed to return to school for 21 days.At this point, I want toscream. The County School personsays to me that she understandsmy "theory" of not wanting tovaccinate . I saw colors in myhead. I leaned across the deskand my hands were clenched. I keptthinking..."don't hit her." Isaid, "Theory? I watched startscreaming, breaking out in a105 fever, rash all over his body two daysafter his 18 month DTaPshot. We took him to the hospital. No one knewwhat was wrong. Hethen lost all his words, quit looking at us and thelights went outin his eyes. Theory? I watched it happen. Don't talk tome abouttheory. I've spent every day since then fighting, scratchingandclawing to get my son back from that hell hole that he slipped into."The woman was stunned. I wanted to scream, throw myself on thefloorand kick anything that got in the way. There's something to besaidabout throwing a tempertantrum for cleansing purposes.So, here'sthe kicker. The child that has whooping cough actuallyhad beendiagnosed a week ago Wednesday. (His mother sent him rightback toschool. You can't fix stupid) His doctor had put him on anantibioticfor 5 days, after which you aren't contagious anymore.He was at schoolevery day last week, plus Monday and Tuesday of thisweek. HE NEVERMISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL and won't. My son, doesn'thave it at all, andisn't allowed to come back for 21 days.What I am most pissed about isthat the school nurse went down to thelunchroom, pulled out infront of all the kids, took him downto the music room and told himbecause he didn't have all his shots,he would have to miss 21 days ofschool. She marched him down to hisroom, got his bookbag from thesidewalk, and then marched him backdown to the office where he stayeduntil we left. He was treatedlike he WAS the virus. He isn't sick. Hehad sat in a room with thechild for weeks while he was contagious.Would two more hours havemade a difference? Couldn't he have finishedthe day and not be drugout of the lunchroom. was so upset...hewanted to stay andtake his spelling test. He will also miss hisChristmas program.Just in case any of this happens to you all, youmight want to beaware of what our friends at the CDC and HealthDepartment are doing.Our pediatrician felt like he was being made anexample of because hedidn't have his kindergarten boosters. Theincubation period is 5-10days for whooping cough. In some rareinstances, it has been as muchas 21 days. AND, taking an antibioticwon't keep you from gettingwhooping cough, it will only make you noncontagious after you comedown with the symptoms. I have theprescription, and should he comedown with symptoms, then I will givehim the antibiotic.The reason no one was at their desk was becausethey were setting upcrisis phone banks. PHONE BANKS. For one child atour school. Itold the woman that the only thing I saw there was anoutbreak of washysteria and stupidity. I don't think she'll be sendingme aChristmas card.I hope you all have a very happy holiday. I amthankful doesnot have whooping cough and that he isundervaccinated, he's talkingand arguing with me like a 5th grader, helooks at me in the eye whenhe's arguing with me and he is just thelove of our lives. We areblessed.Happy Thanksgiving,Betsymother to, 11 and undervaccinated > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills.>http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008> It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. Get your account now.

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It took, oh, what, 30 years of parents complaining about red dye

before " science " agreed?

CGF

p.s. until this year they were just whack-cases.

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> ...it extends to total neglect and lack of compassion for faceless

humans that comprise society.

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> It's also not isolated to vaccines... look at our food additives...

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You demonstrated the courage of your convictions. You didn't cave to

an agenda that's driven primarily by fear (isn't this a sad state of

affairs?).

We're under similar constraints here (Canada) - if there's an

" outbreak " we have to pull my son - which I will do in a heartbeat

rather than expose him to any potential damage to his already ravaged

system(s). It's idiotic that they can't think on the fly - apply some

reason and common sense to the specifics of the situation (at least

you " enlightened " them a bit in that regard) - and it's maddening that

your son was made to feel like some kind of culprit - but think of it

as a blessing in disguise and enjoy your time home with your

" argumentative " son (I would kill to have an argument with mine....).

Kudos - Happy Holidays...

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> I am thankful does not have whooping cough and that he is

> undervaccinated, he's talking and arguing with me like a 5th

> grader, he looks at me in the eye when he's arguing with me and he >

is just the love of our lives. We are blessed.

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> Happy Thanksgiving,

> Betsy

> mother to , 11 and undervaccinated

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