Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 well, you have to sign in to AS to see this. Subject: Pharmaho attacks To: EOHarm Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 11:27 AM Look at what this jerk has writtenhttp://autismspeaks network.ning. com/forum/ topics/david- kirby-loose-cannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Can you give us the gist of what the person wrote? You have to sign in to AS'S " social network " to read their comments. No way do I have any desire to provide AS with my email addy - who knows what evil purpose they will decide to use it for. > > Look at what this jerk has written > http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/david-kirby-loose- > cannon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 -- here is the pharmie post Has anyone seen Kirby's latest blog post about mitochondrial autism? Did anyone notice that Kirby hasn't been able to talk to any mitochondrial experts in months? There is absolutely no new information from experts in his posts. He blogged a recent paper by the http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/new-study---mitochondrial... Kirby is so out of the loop that people aren't even telling him his mistakes anymore. When will this guy take responsibility for the harm he causes? When will he take responsibility for the harm he has already caused? Wouldn't it be great if real journalists could cover this story well? Instead, we have people who are so annoyed with the science getting mangled that they aren't talking. Few people could actually cover this well, and even if Kirby had access to the sources, he would botch it. But, there has to be some good medical reporter out there who could really cover this story. Share Replies are closed for this discussion. Replies to This Discussion Permalink Reply by ThoJ 13 hours ago Who is paying Kirby? From his blog piece In the interest of public disclosure, I can categorically state that I have earned approximately $140,000 from my autism-related activities. This includes the advance and royalties from my book, " Evidence of Harm, " all speaking fees, a movie option and various freelance writing assignments. This income has been spread out over a six-year period (2003-2008, inclusive), for an average of about $23,300 per year. That amount covered my rent in New York City, but not much else. That's not full disclosure. That's a cop out. Who is paying Kirby? Was he paid to speak in front of congressional aides? Was he paid to speak in front of the couple of people (including one sent to protest his presence) in the U.K. Parliament? Kirby commented on the radio earlier this year that autism takes away from his " day job " . I don't know what world he lives in, but something that pays his rent is his day job. Had someone from AAP or Offit made such a blatently misleading comment, people would up in arms. The fact is, unless Kirby states otherwise, he is a paid spokesperson for the groups sponsoring the Age of Autism blog. Does he get paid enough to alter his message? Kirby needs to clear that up, and quickly. He needs to give conflict of interest statements in his talks and his very few newspaper articles. We deserve at least that much. & #9658; Reply to This Upload Files Attach File(s): Here is my reply LOL! A try to smear david campain just because he found that the dep of defense own records state autism is an adverse reaction to the dtap. They further state if any neurological events occur after vaccination that exemption should be given and every effort to aviod multiple vaccinations in one day should be avioded! Wow I guess you pharmaho's must be pissed that someone forgot to hide this info. It kinda goes against the kids can handle 10,000 vaccines at once theory buy a certain [pr]offit-eer - In EOHarm , " searchingforserenity111 " wrote: > > Can you give us the gist of what the person wrote? You have to sign in > to AS'S " social network " to read their comments. No way do I have any > desire to provide AS with my email addy - who knows what evil purpose > they will decide to use it for. > > > > > > Look at what this jerk has written > > http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/david-kirby-loose- > > cannon > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I sent a summary privately.Interesting - one cannot comment. Comments are closed.Typical AS.Can you give us the gist of what the person wrote? You have to sign in to AS'S "social network" to read their comments. No way do I have any desire to provide AS with my email addy - who knows what evil purpose they will decide to use it for. >> Look at what this jerk has written> http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/david-kirby-loose-> cannon> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 ---Bob I provided an alter thread here http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/pharmahos-and- proffiteers-try In EOHarm , Krakow wrote: > > I sent a summary privately. > > Interesting - one cannot comment. Comments are closed. > > Typical AS. > > > > Can you give us the gist of what the person wrote? You have to sign in > > to AS'S " social network " to read their comments. No way do I have any > > desire to provide AS with my email addy - who knows what evil purpose > > they will decide to use it for. > > > > > > > > > > Look at what this jerk has written > > > http://autismspeaksnetwork.ning.com/forum/topics/david-kirby- loose- > > > cannon > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 ThoJ, the author of these comments and other comments attacking , is an anonymous poster. As such, he should be given all the attention and credibility of a ghost. I suggest we shouldn't get too exercised when someone drags such internet road kill over here to share with us all. And calling this poster a " pharmaho " for smearing is itself a smear, si? Lenny > > -- > > here is the pharmie post > Has anyone seen Kirby's latest blog post about mitochondrial > autism? > > Did anyone notice that Kirby hasn't been able to talk to any > mitochondrial experts in months? There is absolutely no new information > from experts in his posts. He blogged a recent paper by the > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/new-study---mitochondrial... > > Kirby is so out of the loop that people aren't even telling him his > mistakes anymore. > > When will this guy take responsibility for the harm he causes? When > will he take responsibility for the harm he has already caused? > > Wouldn't it be great if real journalists could cover this story well? > Instead, we have people who are so annoyed with the science getting > mangled that they aren't talking. Few people could actually cover this > well, and even if Kirby had access to the sources, he would botch > it. But, there has to be some good medical reporter out there who could > really cover this story. > Share > Replies are closed for this discussion. > Replies to This Discussion > Permalink Reply by ThoJ 13 hours ago > Who is paying Kirby? > > From his blog piece > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 ---You forgot [pr]Offit-eer len lol! In EOHarm , " schaferatsprynet " wrote: > > ThoJ, the author of these comments and other comments attacking , > is an anonymous poster. As such, he should be given all the attention > and credibility of a ghost. I suggest we shouldn't get too exercised > when someone drags such internet road kill over here to share with us > all. > > And calling this poster a " pharmaho " for smearing is itself a > smear, si? > > Lenny > > > > > > -- > > > > here is the pharmie post > > Has anyone seen Kirby's latest blog post about mitochondrial > > autism? > > > > Did anyone notice that Kirby hasn't been able to talk to any > > mitochondrial experts in months? There is absolutely no new information > > from experts in his posts. He blogged a recent paper by the > > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/new-study--- mitochondrial... > > > > Kirby is so out of the loop that people aren't even telling him his > > mistakes anymore. > > > > When will this guy take responsibility for the harm he causes? When > > will he take responsibility for the harm he has already caused? > > > > Wouldn't it be great if real journalists could cover this story well? > > Instead, we have people who are so annoyed with the science getting > > mangled that they aren't talking. Few people could actually cover this > > well, and even if Kirby had access to the sources, he would botch > > it. But, there has to be some good medical reporter out there who could > > really cover this story. > > Share > > Replies are closed for this discussion. > > Replies to This Discussion > > Permalink Reply by ThoJ 13 hours ago > > Who is paying Kirby? > > > > From his blog piece > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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