Re: Depakote in pregnancy increases risk of autism-- article

[Guest guest]

What about all those of who never took Depakote in pregnancy, or at any other time? I would bet that there are way many more of who never took Depakote, than the few who did.

Subject: Depakote in pregnancy increases risk of autism-- articleTo: EOHarm Received: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 2:42 PM

This is mentioned by government attorneys in the Omnibus. What neither the attorneys nor this study mention is that A) the impact of VPA (= Depakote) on the brain is extremely similar in places to the effects of ethylmercury on the brain; and that VPA may cause autism if taken by the child long after the neonatal period (see "Chemo Brain" file on this list: study of a child who regressed at age 7). Rather than acting as an "alternate theory", this might actually prove that mercury is a major culprit. We'll see.I'm sure these kids were vaccinated as well but it may be that VPA represents a "cause" on its own as well as creating increased susceptibility to other direct causes. http://www.scienced aily.com/ releases/ 2008/12/08120116 2028.htmEpilepsy Drug Taken When Pregnant May Increase

Risk Of Autism In ChildrenScienceDaily (Dec. 1, 2008) — A new study shows that women who take the epilepsy drug valproate while pregnant may significantly increase their child's risk of developing autism. The preliminary research is published in the December 2, 2008, print issue of Neurology.The ongoing study involves 632 children, nearly half of whom were exposed to epilepsy drugs during gestation. Of the children whose mothers took epilepsy drugs while pregnant, 64 were exposed to valproate, 44 to lamotrigine, 76 to carbamazepine and 65 to other epilepsy drugs. Of the 632 children in the study, nine have been diagnosed with autism and one has shown symptoms of the disorder. The children were tested at one, three and six years old. Two-thirds of the children were six years old by the end of the study.The study found seven of the children with autism had mothers who took an epilepsy

drug while pregnant, four of those children were exposed to valproate while a fifth child's mother took a combination of valproate and lamotrigine. The children whose mothers were given valproate during pregnancy were seven times more likely to develop autism compared to children whose mothers did not take an epilepsy drug while pregnant. This risk was not seen with the other epilepsy drugs. None of the children in the study had any known family history of autism."The potential risk for autism in this study was substantial for children whose mothers took valproate while pregnant, but more research needs to be done since these are early findings," says study author Gus Baker, PhD, FBPsS, of the University of Liverpool in the United Kingdom."However, women who take valproate while pregnant should be informed of the possible risks of autism and are encouraged to discuss them with their doctor.

Those who are taking valproate should not stop their treatment without speaking to their doctor first."Other studies have shown that valproate is more likely to cause birth defects than other epilepsy drugs.Symptoms of autism include difficulty in language development, a lack of attention, social problems and the inability to understand other people's feelings.The study was conducted by the Liverpool and Manchester Neurodevelopment Group, a multidisciplinary group consisting of psychologists, geneticists, neurologists, midwives and support staff.

[Guest guest]

Well, I'm not saying that it's *the* cause of the epidemic. The point

is that it mimics mercury and then, for added measure, damages some

specific processes known to be damaged by other vaccine toxins.

Imagine that, for years, they couldn't figure out what caused

thalidomide babies and imagine that industry put up as big a fight

over it as they have over vaccine toxins and autism. Then one day,

some researchers innocently discover that chemical XY causes a few

babies to be born with flippers instead of limbs and other damage

noticed in thalidomide babies. Chemical XY is NOT thalidomide and

99.99% of children born with the condition never had any exposure to

this rare chemical, so chemical XY can't be the cause of all the

cases or even any of them. But some further researchers notice that,

though chemical XY does not have the chemical properties of

thalidomide, it damages the same specific cells, DNA and processes as

thalidomide. Therefore, the thing that didn't cause the crisis

actually could prove what the cause was.

That was my point. I won't go into how many anticonvulsants are found

in tap water because I don't think that's the cause of the epidemic

either, though they're no big help to human health.

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> Subject: Depakote in pregnancy increases risk of autism--

article

> To: EOHarm

> Received: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 2:42 PM

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>

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> This is mentioned by government attorneys in the Omnibus. What

> neither the attorneys nor this study mention is that A) the impact

of

> VPA (= Depakote) on the brain is extremely similar in places to the

> effects of ethylmercury on the brain; and that VPA may cause

> autism if taken by the child long after the neonatal period

> (see " Chemo Brain " file on this list: study of a child who

regressed

> at age 7). Rather than acting as an " alternate theory " , this might

> actually prove that mercury is a major culprit. We'll see.

>

> I'm sure these kids were vaccinated as well but it may be that VPA

> represents a " cause " on its own as well as creating increased

> susceptibility to other direct causes.

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> http://www.scienced aily.com/ releases/ 2008/12/08120116 2028.htm

>

> Epilepsy Drug Taken When Pregnant May Increase Risk Of Autism In

> Children

> ScienceDaily (Dec. 1, 2008) — A new study shows that women who take

> the epilepsy drug valproate while pregnant may significantly

increase

> their child's risk of developing autism. The preliminary research

is

> published in the December 2, 2008, print issue of Neurology.

>

> The ongoing study involves 632 children, nearly half of whom were

> exposed to epilepsy drugs during gestation. Of the children whose

> mothers took epilepsy drugs while pregnant, 64 were exposed to

> valproate, 44 to lamotrigine, 76 to carbamazepine and 65 to other

> epilepsy drugs. Of the 632 children in the study, nine have been

> diagnosed with autism and one has shown symptoms of the disorder.

The

> children were tested at one, three and six years old. Two-thirds of

> the children were six years old by the end of the study.

>

> The study found seven of the children with autism had mothers who

> took an epilepsy drug while pregnant, four of those children were

> exposed to valproate while a fifth child's mother took a

combination

> of valproate and lamotrigine. The children whose mothers were given

> valproate during pregnancy were seven times more likely to develop

> autism compared to children whose mothers did not take an epilepsy

> drug while pregnant. This risk was not seen with the other epilepsy

> drugs. None of the children in the study had any known family

history

> of autism.

>

> " The potential risk for autism in this study was substantial for

> children whose mothers took valproate while pregnant, but more

> research needs to be done since these are early findings, " says

study

> author Gus Baker, PhD, FBPsS, of the University of Liverpool in the

> United Kingdom. " However, women who take valproate while pregnant

> should be informed of the possible risks of autism and are

encouraged

> to discuss them with their doctor. Those who are taking valproate

> should not stop their treatment without speaking to their doctor

> first. "

>

> Other studies have shown that valproate is more likely to cause

birth

> defects than other epilepsy drugs.

>

> Symptoms of autism include difficulty in language development, a

lack

> of attention, social problems and the inability to understand other

> people's feelings.

>

> The study was conducted by the Liverpool and Manchester

> Neurodevelopment Group, a multidisciplinary group consisting of

> psychologists, geneticists, neurologists, midwives and support

staff.

>

[Guest guest]

There may be something to be learned about how depakote mimics mercury. ????

Subject: Re: Depakote in pregnancy increases risk of autism-- articleTo: EOHarm Received: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:05 AM

Well, I'm not saying that it's *the* cause of the epidemic. The point is that it mimics mercury and then, for added measure, damages some specific processes known to be damaged by other vaccine toxins.Imagine that, for years, they couldn't figure out what caused thalidomide babies and imagine that industry put up as big a fight over it as they have over vaccine toxins and autism. Then one day, some researchers innocently discover that chemical XY causes a few babies to be born with flippers instead of limbs and other damage noticed in thalidomide babies. Chemical XY is NOT thalidomide and 99.99% of children born with the condition never had any exposure to this rare chemical, so chemical XY can't be the cause of all the cases or even any of them. But some further researchers notice that, though chemical XY does not have the chemical properties of thalidomide, it damages the same specific cells,

DNA and processes as thalidomide. Therefore, the thing that didn't cause the crisis actually could prove what the cause was. That was my point. I won't go into how many anticonvulsants are found in tap water because I don't think that's the cause of the epidemic either, though they're no big help to human health. > > From: anacat_11 <anacat_11@. ..>> Subject: Depakote in pregnancy increases risk of autism-- article> To: EOHarmyahoogroups (DOT) com> Received: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 2:42 PM> > > > > > > This is mentioned by government attorneys in the Omnibus. What > neither the attorneys nor this study mention is that A) the impact of > VPA (= Depakote) on the brain is extremely similar in places to the > effects of ethylmercury on the brain; and that VPA may cause > autism if taken by the child long after the neonatal period > (see "Chemo Brain" file on this list: study of a child who regressed > at age 7). Rather than acting as an "alternate theory", this might > actually prove that mercury is a major culprit. We'll see.> > I'm sure these kids were vaccinated as well but it may be that VPA > represents a "cause" on its own as well as creating increased > susceptibility to other direct causes.

> > http://www.scienced aily.com/ releases/ 2008/12/08120116 2028.htm> > Epilepsy Drug Taken When Pregnant May Increase Risk Of Autism In > Children> ScienceDaily (Dec. 1, 2008) — A new study shows that women who take > the epilepsy drug valproate while pregnant may significantly increase > their child's risk of developing autism. The preliminary research is > published in the December 2, 2008, print issue of Neurology.> > The ongoing study involves 632 children, nearly half of whom were > exposed to epilepsy drugs during gestation. Of the children whose > mothers took epilepsy drugs while pregnant, 64 were exposed to > valproate, 44 to lamotrigine, 76 to carbamazepine and 65 to other > epilepsy drugs. Of the 632 children in the study, nine have been > diagnosed with

autism and one has shown symptoms of the disorder. The > children were tested at one, three and six years old. Two-thirds of > the children were six years old by the end of the study.> > The study found seven of the children with autism had mothers who > took an epilepsy drug while pregnant, four of those children were > exposed to valproate while a fifth child's mother took a combination > of valproate and lamotrigine. The children whose mothers were given > valproate during pregnancy were seven times more likely to develop > autism compared to children whose mothers did not take an epilepsy > drug while pregnant. This risk was not seen with the other epilepsy > drugs. None of the children in the study had any known family history > of autism.> > "The potential risk for autism in this study was substantial for > children whose mothers

took valproate while pregnant, but more > research needs to be done since these are early findings," says study > author Gus Baker, PhD, FBPsS, of the University of Liverpool in the > United Kingdom."However, women who take valproate while pregnant > should be informed of the possible risks of autism and are encouraged > to discuss them with their doctor. Those who are taking valproate > should not stop their treatment without speaking to their doctor > first."> > Other studies have shown that valproate is more likely to cause birth > defects than other epilepsy drugs.> > Symptoms of autism include difficulty in language development, a lack > of attention, social problems and the inability to understand other > people's feelings.> > The study was conducted by the Liverpool and Manchester > Neurodevelopment Group, a

multidisciplinary group consisting of > psychologists, geneticists, neurologists, midwives and support staff.>