Re: MMR baby 'chatting away' hours before his death, inquest hears

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".. Ten years ago, research led by Dr Wakefield.." Gee, did it seem like that bit where they just had to mention Wakefield and the "measles epidemic" (Oh GOD - one thousand cases.. in how long?) was simply tacked onto the rest of the article, which really had nothing at all to do with Wakefield's findings, other than the mention of MMR? This article was not about "simple autism and MMR", it was about medical neglligence when there was a known predisposing factor against MMR vaccination. Certainly not after he had just been given an antibiotic cocktail. And was he given vitamin A - as per the WHO guidelines for MMR vaccination I am told? Somehow I don't think so. But by God - they just must rake Wakefield over the coals yet again, or perhaps they are simply helpfully informing any reader who does not already know about Wakefield and his findings (never been questioned) and autism-association hypothesis (the hell has been questioned). But why would they want to do that? And they just must make the British public are once again about The Dread Measles. This about a week after the Scotsman reports that autism in the UK is at 1 in 88 children, and 1 in 54 for boys. When will this madness end? If vitamin A is indeed recommended by the WHO with MMR vaccination, can the doctors then be charged with international crimes against humanity? They might look good in the Hague..Jim

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I must say that this article may be highly debatable by many - but

definitely not by Me. Just reading this was enough to spur some of

the PTSD type symptoms that many parents have regarding their children

being shot up with vaccinations that either kill their futures or as

in this case just plain kill them. This is completely unacceptable -

this doctor did not seem to follow the very poor guidelines given

anyway. If he was to watch closely he did not.

So, who's at fault here ? In my opinion multiple parties - the

Governmental entity that made these guidelines to give MMR's to

children with febrile convulsions (basically a febrile seizure),

The doctor who failed to watch closely under the guidelines, and the

maker of the poison that killed the child.

While working Globally advocating for our children I have had the

displeasure to do search and rescue's and also act as a spokesperson

for families that have lost their child due to Illegal restraint or

some other reason that makes no sense. In one case a child on the

spectrum was pushed under a bus by his own aide as the bus was about

to leave - he died. In another occasion a child was 'sat on' by not

only the Aide but also the Bus driver to stop what they called a

tantrum but was determined to be a seizure in Autopsy.

Awareness of the fact that many of our children are having either

undetectable seizures or even very detectable ones is very important

not just to the Teachers or Administrators but to everyone the is

involved in educating, playing with, or around our kids.

As in my son's case an in many others - EEG's that finally do get done

come out with spikes or patterns that show the evidence of some trauma

(pre natal or as I believe post vaccine) to the brain.

This article probably has the same effect on me as it does many

others.. grief followed by outright ANGER towards the system -

regardless of whether it's in America or out of America..it doesn't

matter to me. There's too much compelling evidence on the table right

now for these doctors to continue to insist they are innocent - they

are not .. the children are.

E. , Sr. The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Children

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> MMR baby 'chatting away' hours before his death, inquest hears

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> Parents of Fisher, who died at 18 months, say they could have

> acted earlier had they been given the right information

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> A healthy baby boy who was heard " chatting away on the baby monitor "

> just hours before he died received an MMR jab shortly after suffering

> a fever fit that the vaccine may have aggravated, an inquest heard

today.

> Fisher, who was 18 months old when he was discovered dead in

> his cot in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire by his mother, Fisher,

> had been given the MMR jab 10 days earlier in January 2006, a coroner

> heard.

> suffered from febrile convulsions, fits caused by high

> temperatures. Fisher, 44, and her husband, , 43, believe

> the vaccine was " implicated " in their son's death.

> They say the temperature-raising effects of the drug on children with

> febrile convulsions were not explained to them, and that this

> knowledge might have allowed them to act sooner.

> According to Department of Health guidelines, the jab should be given

> ''with caution''. However, the guidelines do not ban child sufferers

> of febrile convulsions from receiving it, but rather recommends

> monitoring their temperatures.

> Two doctors confirmed that giving MMR to sufferers such as was

> permitted under patient guidelines, with careful watches recommended.

> In evidence, Fisher said her son had been a " healthy and robust " child

> who she had breastfed for 11 months - longer than her other three

> children.

> He was given antibiotics for his febrile illness shortly before he

> received his MMR jab, and had been " running around playing football

> with his father " on the Wednesday before he died .

> The night before he died, he was " chatting away on the baby monitor " ,

> she added.

> " He took his bottle of water and I put the quilt over him, stroked his

> head and said goodnight. I went to bed, heard him drink his water,

> then throw the bottle on the floor. I heard him shuffling around. "

> At 8am, his sister Meg, who was sharing a room with him, called out to

> her.

> " I was surprised he was not awake. I tried to wake him, but it was

> clear he was dead because of his colour, and he was cold, " Fisher said.

> He had been due to attend a doctor's appointment for his worsening

> symptoms on the day he died.

> She added that she now knew should have been more closely

> monitored because of his previous condition.

> The coroner heard was born at a healthy 8lbs 10oz, and came

> through his routine injection with no side-effects.

> Dr Annette Bugaighis, his GP, said the child fell ill on September 25,

> 2005, after returning from a holiday in Spain, and developed a high

> temperature.

> After suffering a fit at the Overton Park surgery, he was rushed to

> hospital, where it was found he had suffered febrile convulsion. When

> admitted, had a high temperature, stiff neck, puffy eyes, and

> green-tinged stools.

> Both Dr Annette Bugaighis and consultant paediatrician Alan Day of

> Cheltenham general hospital agreed that he was safe to be given the

> vaccine on January 9 2006, and that he should be monitored for raised

> temperature.

> " There was nothing obvious in his medical history to explain his

> sudden death,'' Dr Bugaighis said.

> A Department of Health pamphlet advises only that MMR2 should be given

> " with caution " to those " with an individual or family history of

> cerebral injury or any other condition in which stress due to fever

> should be avoided. The physician should be alert to the rise in

> temperature that may follow. "

> Mr Fisher said that the family had not been given a patient

> information leaflet on the MMR precautions to be taken with children

> who had previously suffered fever. Nor was any verbal advice specific

> to his circumstances.

> " How I remember it, we were told if he had a rising temperature to

> give him Calpol if he got grizzly. I had been present at all my

> children's vaccines and it's the same spiel on every occasion, " he

said.

> " Given his condition, they should have been aware of his medical

> history. At no point were we asked for this before his vaccination. "

> " If we had been [given the leaflet], we would have gone to hospital

> much quicker because of the information in that list. We would have

> been much more concerned than we actually were. "

> , the nurse who gave his injection, said she

> trusted his parents' instincts and was satisfied when they told her

> was well on the day.

> Nurse , who vaccinates " in excess " of 1,000 babies a year,

> said no specific advice was required other then regular checking of

> temperature.

> The Gloucestershire coroner, Alan Crickmore, will hear up to three

> days of evidence at the Shire Hall, Gloucester, before recording a

> verdict.

> Ten years ago, research led by Dr Wakefield, a

> gastroenterologist at London's Royal Free Hospital, prompted fears

> that the combined Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine was linked to

> autism.

> Despite several studies in Britain, Finland and Japan disproving the

> connection, anxiety has persisted over the vaccine. Cases of measles

> have topped 1,000 for the first time in more than a decade, according

> to information that emerged last week. The Health Protection Agency

> has attributed the rise to the " relatively low " uptake of the MMR

> vaccine.

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