Re: Military pulls page on DtaP

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I was going to do a screen capture but was busy and meant to do it later on. Never got to it

Kerrie

Check out my Parent to Parent Toy/Game suggestion list for children with AutismPARENT TO PARENT TOY SUGGESTIONS FOR KIDS WITH AUTISM.

I wonder if anyone managed to get a copy of what was there, before the upcoming "revisions"?

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http://www.vhcinfo.org/subpage.asp?page=vaccines/vaccine_dtapis now gone and under revisionKP Stoller, MD, FACHMPresident, International Hyperbaric Medical AssocMedical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexicowww.hbotnm.com-- Sheri Nakken wrote:

At 01:06 PM 12/5/2008, you wrote:

After you are done with your cases, do you keep the info.? Any other homeopaths here keep their info.? Jenn LYes homeopaths keep their case notes.Sheri

Re: Re: Seizure after MMR is a coincidence didn’t you just know it?

> I treated two 4-yo girls after their MMR's for preschool (one had never been vaccinated till then and the other had been fully vaccinated)

They both started regressing into autism before their parent's eyes. I treated each one with the appropriate homeopathic remedy (that matched their individual symptoms) and also suggested high doses of Vitamin A for 2 days (mycelized) but I don't think either mother followed through with that in appropriate amounts). Anyway, the girls improved and did not regress further into autism. But I'm sure they would have had it not been treated right away.

MMR seems to be the straw that breaks the camel's back - possibly in those with low Vitamin A stores, as Measles depletes Vitamin A stores, that are often already depleted - same for the vaccine.

Sheri

At 07:46 AM 12/5/2008, you wrote:

>I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed just >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time. >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.

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I wonder if anyone managed to get a copy of what was there, before the upcoming "revisions"?

Aasa

>I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed just >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time. >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

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If only they could withdraw the vaccines so quickly.

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> >I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after

> >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed

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> >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.

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& Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

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I would guess Kirby has it all.

Subject: Re: Military pulls page on DtaPTo: EOHarm Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:04 PM

If only they could withdraw the vaccines so quickly. > > >I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after > >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed just > >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time. > >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & > Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK> > Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008>

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___ > Criminal Lawyers - Click here.>

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Well it's still under drugs.com…

http://www.drugs.com/ppa/diphtheria-tetanus-toxoids-acellular-pertussis-vaccine-dtap.html

I found this under the Professionals category though, not the " concise "

category. 

Also Found the the DTap is NOT ever supposed to be given with

the live flu vaccine, actually nothing is ever supposed to be given at the same

time as the live flue vaccine.  No other live virus within a month of live flu

vacc and no other vaccine inactive should be given withing 2 weeks of live flu

vaccine… Below this is adverse reactions for Pentacel-Asthma and SIDS are both

listed as possible side effects.  How much you want to bet most pediatricians

do not know this info????

diphtheria toxoid is known to

interact with the following drugs:

Click on a link below to view

Drug-Drug Interactions with diphtheria toxoid.

Moderate

Interactions

FluMist,

influenza

virus vaccine, live, trivalent

pertussis, acellular is known

to interact with the following drugs:

Click on a link below to view

Drug-Drug Interactions with pertussis, acellular.

Moderate

Interactions

FluMist,

influenza

virus vaccine, live, trivalent

diphtheria-toxoid

and Influenza virus vaccine live trivalent Interactions

Back

Interactions between

diphtheria-toxoid(diphtheria toxoid) and Influenza virus vaccine live trivalent

(influenza virus vaccine, live, trivalent)

diphtheria

toxoid and influenza virus vaccine, live, trivalent (Moderate

Drug-Drug)

ADJUST DOSING INTERVAL: The

safety and immunogenicity of live influenza virus vaccine when administered

concurrently with other vaccines have not been determined. Studies in healthy individuals excluded subjects who received any live

virus vaccine within one month of enrollment and any inactivated or subunit

vaccine within two weeks of enrollment.

MANAGEMENT: In general, live influenza virus vaccine should not be administered

concurrently with any other vaccine. The product labeling recommends that other

live virus vaccines not be administered within one month of immunization with

live influenza virus vaccine. Inactivated or subunit vaccines should preferably

not be administered within two weeks of live influenza virus vaccine.

Here's an interesting note on

the Pentacel-Check out Miscellaneous---SIDS

Adverse Reactions

Cardiovascular

Cyanosis, pallor

(postmarketing).

CNS

Fussiness/irritability (77%);

inconsolable crying (59%); decreased activity/lethargy (46%); decreased

consciousness, meningitis, screaming, seizure, somnolence (postmarketing).

Dermatologic

Erythema, hypersensitivity

including rash and urticaria, skin discoloration (postmarketing).

GI

Gastroenteritis; diarrhea, vomiting (postmarketing).

Local

Tenderness (56%); increase in

arm circumference (34%); redness (17%); swelling (10%); extensive swelling of

the injected limb, including swelling involving the adjacent joints;

injection-site reactions, including abscess, inflammation, mass, and sterile abscess;

vaccination failure/therapeutic response decreased (postmarketing).

Metabolic-Nutritional

Decreased appetite; dehydration (postmarketing).

Respiratory

Apnea, asthma, cough, pneumonia; rhinitis (postmarketing).

Miscellaneous

Fever (13%); death associated

with asphyxia caused by suffocation, head trauma, neuroblastoma, sudden infant

death syndrome, and suffocation; hypotonic-hyporesponsive episode, viral infection (postmarketing).

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Maurine

Meleck

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:16 PM

To: EOHarm

Subject: Re: Re: Military pulls page on DtaP

I would guess Kirby has it all.

From: anacat_11

Subject: Re: Military pulls page on DtaP

To: EOHarm

Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:04 PM

If only they could withdraw

the vaccines so quickly.

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> >I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after

> >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed

just

> >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time.

> >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

UK

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwith

in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers

&

> Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

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> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

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> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales

UK

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> Vaccines - http://www.wellwith

in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers

& Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

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> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___

> Criminal Lawyers - Click here.

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Funny how only certain documents appear to be "damaged" or under construction. Talk about blatant and in your face. I guess we can add this one to the list along with all the other cover ups. Tampering with the evidence????....

>I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed just >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time. >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___ Criminal Lawyers - Click here.

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Google's cache version:http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:AwylZVQHsd0J:www.vhcinfo.org/subpage.asp%3Fpage%3Dvaccines/vaccine_dtap+vaccine_dtap+site+vhcinfo.org & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=7 & gl=us & client=safariI also have a local copy as well as the SE_13 document.. Gee - I'd just love to know who put that "under revision" - and when exactly they decided to do it. Somebody see a million or so hits to the page and wonder "what the hell??" and decide to have a look-see? Then decide they really don't want to be confirming that.. Never mind that it's on the DTaP warning sheet somewhere else and has been for what about 2 months now at least? Maybe something to email Maloney about, once we see what the 'revisions' are? It will be kind of hard since 'autism' IS listed on some other site (on drugs.com I think) as an "approved side effect" (so to speak).Jim

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Could not locate a copy using the Internet WayBack Machine site, but

it may be archived within the next 6 months.

http://www.archive.org

Have not found it in my internet cache either, but others may want to

check theirs. For Firefox type 'about:cache' without quotes in address

bar, click disk cache, search 'vhcinfo' (no quotes) You may have one

or more entries. Click to bring up copy from your own hard drive. Save

to desktop or preferred folder. It will eventually leave your cache.

Best,

Rick

Holiday Gifts for the Cute Little Suckers on your list

http://www.CuteLittleSucker.com

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> I wonder if anyone managed to get a copy of what was there, before

the upcoming " revisions " ?

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> Aasa

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It does make you wonder what actually goes on behind the scenes in situations

like this....

Bunch of frauds.

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> >I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after

> >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9 months, diagnosed just

> >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time.

> >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.

>

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers &

> Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

>

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> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

>

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath  

>

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers &

Childhood

Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008

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> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___

> Criminal Lawyers - Click here.

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If this isn't obvious, I don't know what is. They'll probably say that we are just too stupid to understand this stuff and the way it was written could be mis-interpreted by lay people -so in order to avoid a deadly outbreak of chickenpox we had to re write it... blah blah blah...

Hmmm how can we call them on this- are you going to do a follow up write up about how quickly the page got pulled? I'm sure there is a "nice" way you can put it....

Subject: Re: Military pulls page on DtaPTo: EOHarm Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 5:21 PM

It does make you wonder what actually goes on behind the scenes in situations like this.... Bunch of frauds. > > >I couldn't agree more, my daughter's regression into autism after > >her 4-year vaccines was very gradual (took 9

months, diagnosed just > >before age 5) which is why I didn't suspect vaccines at the time. > >Her DAN believes it was the MMR that did it for her too.> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & > Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK> > Vaccines - http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & Childhood Disease & Homeopathy Email classes start in December 2008> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___ > Criminal Lawyers - Click here.>

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Well, let's just wait and see what comes up in replacement. If it

stays underconstruction for days, then that says something, too.

Lenny

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> It does make you wonder what actually goes on behind the scenes in

situations like this....

> Bunch of frauds.

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Some of our listmates have been wonderful in trying to relay what went missing, but unfortunately, whatever has come up, has been related to anthrax vaccine, not Dtap,

Aasa

P.S., I am NOT too happy with our Canadian government for wasting even more of our dollars to stockpile a newer version of the smallpox vaccine. Was that really needed? GRRR!

Subject: Re: Military pulls page on DtaPTo: EOHarm Received: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 1:09 AM

Well, let's just wait and see what comes up in replacement. If itstays underconstruction for days, then that says something, too. Lenny>> > It does make you wonder what actually goes on behind the scenes insituations like this.... > Bunch of frauds. > >