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[Guest guest]

Lenny,

The way I understand it is that if Dr. Stoller gets enough votes, he gets to talk to the president about our issues.

This isn't an online petition.

More people are voting now. I think that it was confusion about registering. You have to register to vote. You will see the number change as you vote.

Thanks Dr. Stoller, I have forwarded it to other lists and I have seen it forwarded by others too. I hope that you get as many votes as you need to present about toxins, our kids, treatment, and change.

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[Guest guest]

I wouldrather have people save up their online energy for contacting theirlocal politicians by phone or fax over pending legislation thatconcretely affects our children and families.

Dr. Stoller would be able to MEET with President Obama and talk to him our issues. I imagine that to be much more effective than emails, phone calls, and faxes to our local politicians although I agree that those are important too.

The last time I checked he only needed 79 more votes to make it to the second round. I still think that if everyone on this list would vote for Dr. Stoller's Bodies In Rebellion, that he would have the opportunity to present our side to President Obama.

Lynne

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[Guest guest]

I don't understand your last comment and I don't understand why you are taking a stance of indifference or negativity towards real efforts. Everything that I have seen Dr. Stoller do has been in line with good intentions for mankind.

I don't know what the total votes is now, but I would like to see what would happen if Bodies in Rebellion did get enough for votes to reach Obama.

Lynne

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

I very much appreciate and admire the selfless work Dr. Stoller does

for the community and our children. And I would not take anything

away from that. He is a true hero.

However, my opposition to online petitions is nothing new. I have

repeatedly explained here over the last few years why they are often

worse than empty gestures -- often little more than cynical marketing

tools to collect email addresses for spamming. I certainly don't

think this is Dr. Stoller's intent specifically with his online

petition -- I even signed on to it.

But I do feel I have an obligation to let people know what online

petitions are and their pitfalls. This list and the rest of the

internet is besieged with requests for people to join and add to

website polls and online petitions. I think people are starting to

tire of these devices as there is little concrete to show for all the

efforts.

Joining website/blog polls and online petitions can be fun -- so don't

let me be a scrooge. But don't expect me to encourage people to spin

their wheels and surrender some of their privacy towards it. I would

rather have people save up their online energy for contacting their

local politicians by phone or fax over pending legislation that

concretely affects our children and families.

Lenny

>

> Lenny,

>

> I usually love your commentary and very very often I agree whole

heartily

> with what you say, but this time, I have to say, you need to think

about what

> you are doing.

>

> Here is a doctor, Dr. Stoller who contributes to this EOH

list and

> advocates for our kids and all kids. He treats children with autism

in New

> Mexico and California. He is trying to find a way to reach our future

> president as we all are. He has found a very unique way to actually

make a

> difference. All that he needs is votes, of which there are over

2,000 people on this

> list. To vote is free and just takes a little time. It is a way that

> everyone can participate.

>

> Your comments are not supportive and in fact, they might discourage

someone

> who was about to vote for Dr. Stoller's Bodies in Rebellion.

>

> I was so happy when you continued to moderate this yahoo group last

December

> because I see it as a way for all of us to unite and advocate about

our

> common causes. I'm just a mom, who is at home taking care of my

very sick little

> boy, but this list and others give me a way to be active at to be

involved.

>

> Please do not be discouraging to efforts that people are making

especially

> when they are great advocates of our kids.

>

> Lynne

[Guest guest]

> Dr. Stoller would be able to MEET with President Obama and talk to

him our

> issues. I imagine that to be much more effective than emails,

phone calls,

> and faxes to our local politicians. . .

Well, maybe if Dr. Stoller told the President that parents, schools

and states needed a $25 Billion bailout to pay for all the autism

going around, not to mention needed research, he just might get some

attention! I just hope Dr. Stoller doesn't fly to see Obama in his

private jet.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

Lenny:

Please tell me where my private jet is parked so I can sell it on ebay.

The point is not to meet with anyone, the point is to to create a policy change

in a big way and in multiple agencies...FDA, CDC... NIH.

There needs to be new legislation to give the EPA some real power.

And affected children and adults need to be supported in their recovery.

Expensive...? not as expensive as having a massive number of citizens on full

disability.

They want to count autistic adults...? Just wait a few short years and they will

have their autistic adults and they can take care of them too.

KP Stoller, MD, FACHM

President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc

Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico

www.hbotnm.com

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[Guest guest]

I'm not a big poster, but here's my 2 cents.

Obama's campaign was internet based. It was new for those of us who

supported him. He got more people involved. You got contacts, they

encouraged neigborhood home meetings. Kept costs down, weren't as

many rented offices. I understand those of different parties may be

wary to sign up & vote.

I think we would be missing an opportunity as pointed out. Dr.

Stoller would get the chance to meet with him & make a presentation.

Maybe they'd allow his own team of experts.

It could do more than faxes that get thrown out, not that his

presentation won't later. But we won't know until it happens.

With the 1000's of families out there that

saw, beleive, have proof they're kids autism was caused by vaccines

we could flood the #'s & make a difference.

I understand families that took settlements whenever & cannot speak

out.

Kathy

>

> > Dr. Stoller would be able to MEET with President Obama and talk

to

> him our

> > issues. I imagine that to be much more effective than emails,

> phone calls,

> > and faxes to our local politicians. . .

>

>

> Well, maybe if Dr. Stoller told the President that parents, schools

> and states needed a $25 Billion bailout to pay for all the autism

> going around, not to mention needed research, he just might get some

> attention! I just hope Dr. Stoller doesn't fly to see Obama in his

> private jet.

>

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry Lynn had your name wrong. Let's rally & get the #'s up.

I wish I could have been at the march to meet some of you.

Kathy

> >

> > > Dr. Stoller would be able to MEET with President Obama and talk

> to

> > him our

> > > issues. I imagine that to be much more effective than emails,

> > phone calls,

> > > and faxes to our local politicians. . .

> >

> >

> > Well, maybe if Dr. Stoller told the President that parents,

schools

> > and states needed a $25 Billion bailout to pay for all the autism

> > going around, not to mention needed research, he just might get

some

> > attention! I just hope Dr. Stoller doesn't fly to see Obama in

his

> > private jet.

> >

> >

> > Lenny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't understand your last comment and I don't understand why you

are

> taking a stance of indifference or negativity towards real efforts.

I am sorry that I am not able to explain myself better than I already

have. I am trying to convey objective opinion, which can turn out to

be negative, true. But it is honestly how I see it. No one has to

take my warnings. Sign up, if you think it to be worthwhile.

> Everything

> that I have seen Dr. Stoller do has been in line with good

intentions for

> mankind.

And I do not doubt this in the least. But you know what they say

about some roads paved with good intentions . . . To me Obama is still

an unknown factor when it comes to autism and dirty vaccines. I really

hope more comes out of this than a political pr stunt.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't understand your last comment

Was that the crack about Dr. Stoller going in his private jet? That

was a joking reference to the Big 3 Detroit guys going to Washington

in their private jet to ask for billions in bailout. That's all.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> Lenny:

>

> Please tell me where my private jet is parked so I can sell it on ebay.

See, that's what happens when you do too much pitocen, you forget

things. <wink>

>

> The point is not to meet with anyone, the point is to to create a

policy change in a big way and in multiple agencies...FDA, CDC... NIH.

>

I sure hope such a meeting would be more than symbolic. Maybe if you

put him in a hammerlock. . .

Lenny

[Guest guest]

FWIW i get ya, lenny

> >

> > I don't understand your last comment

>

> Was that the crack about Dr. Stoller going in his private jet? That

> was a joking reference to the Big 3 Detroit guys going to Washington

> in their private jet to ask for billions in bailout. That's all.

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Lenny. Jenn L

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> Dr. Stoller would be able to MEET with President Obama and talk to him our > issues. I imagine that to be much more effective than emails, phone calls, > and faxes to our local politicians. . .Well, maybe if Dr. Stoller told the President that parents, schoolsand states needed a $25 Billion bailout to pay for all the autismgoing around, not to mention needed research, he just might get someattention! I just hope Dr. Stoller doesn't fly to see Obama in hisprivate jet.Lenny