Guest guest Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Josh, I was waiting for your reply before making mine. Summary: I would not try heating any oil to diffuse. Not at all. In my opinion it's extremely dangerous. It's a complete unknown method, not tried and true for decades. No safety record. This oil is not the place to cut costs. There are lower hanging fruit. At 08:38 PM 9/10/2009, you wrote: >Also based on what we know of essential oils, which again I will defer to 's knowledge on this, using a flame under the essentail oils to areosolize the essential oil would be detrimental the the constituents that make up the Thieves oil and for that matter any essential oil there by defeating the purpose of getting a therapeutic grade essential oil. There is this possibility. The fact that Thieves oil is cold pressed, and then not heated in atomization is likely making the oil 3 to 10 times more effective. Heat is a well known enemy to most molecules, breaking them in the middle, near the ends, in unexpected places, even producing toxic results. That is why " cold pressed " processes for supermarket and health oils is common. Very common. Even the heat of juicing your food destroys nutrients. And is why there are some cold press juicers around. I would not try heating any oil to diffuse. Not at all. In my opinion it's extremely dangerous. It's a complete unknown method, not tried and true for decades. No safety record. If it was " good " , then someone would have figured that centuries ago, and burning oil would be like burning incense. Yes, some oils are used in lamps, safe ones, known to be safe while humans are in the room. Or come back into the room. There is no known safety record for heating essentials into a room, and having the room be safe to return to. Let us know. Remember this list is full of MCS'ers, and when posting a " new " method, or unusual method, a big WARNING should be included, to go slow, first test for sensitivity to smaller amounts. Advise on this list should not result in a member having to abandon a home, imho. Of course, all members know to read everything with a large grain of salt, and always go slow. Never paint a whole room with a new paint. Paint a stick. Never eat a new food item without first smearing a little on your skin, and waiting 1 day, before nibbling a little of the inside, not the outside, which might have pesticide. And on and on. Avoiding surprise exposures is the order of everyday. >However you may very well be able to find the oil on ebay for cheaper. I actually saw numerous posts for the oils at a cheaper rate. However if you do decide to get this oil, and potentially use it for prevention or remediation of mold then make sure you use a cold air diffuser with it; with a 4.5 watt pump and nebulizer (glass fitting that atomizes the oils for diffusion). There are less expensive diffusers and oils but make sure of the quality Quality is what costs more, I agree. Also, using an unknown, home made mixture, from miscellaneous oils, runs a huge risk of " chemical mixing " , like mixing household cleaning chemicals, a big no no, literally a deadly thing, for at least 6 people a year in the USA (CDC statistics). In addition, one oil's solvent might destroy a second oil. You need to also match the solvents. And the concentrations. Using a mixture that comes with some assurance of safety, means you have legal recourse to recoup any losses. Mix your own, and you have only yourself to blame. To save a few dollars, ten or twenty at the most, in exchange for increased labor of mixing, even without the added effort of ensuring the solvents will match, and not give a deadly mixture, is just not worth even $50, the cost of Theives Oil. Especially, compared to the overall cost of the remediation in the first place. This oil is not the place to cut costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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