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Mic is doing great but he really is overly active, hes been standing in the

middle of our pool table dancing and I have been telling him to get down, after

awhile he listened and would sit down fast before I got in the room, I got

louder and firmer each time,The last time I yelled hard at him and he got down

and went to his chair and cried I turned to walk away because I cant stand to

see him cry and he started slapping himself, I heard Steve raise his voice to

him and he cried and started slapping himself again, I dont like this behavior

at all and Im not sure what to do about it, we are gonna have to remove the pool

table its not safe although he hasnt fallen he seems to know his boundaries

dancing up there its still not safe.The slapping himself after being repremanded

really bothers me, any thoughts?Mic does not seem to understand no unless its a

firm loud no and now I dont know how to react.Any thoughts? Hes smart enough to

know hes doing something wrong though. Hes punching the

tv screen right now,just not himself. Definately the-out-of-sinc-child

Laurie

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Geez, Laurie: Tori does that alot (the hitting herself when corrected, or

can't get her own way). She actually hit a little boy in school today in

the face at music class. We still can't figure out why. Our Dev. Ped. said

to ignore her when she hits herself and hopefully she will catch on to

stop-but that hasn't happened yet. The only thing I can think of is Mic is

still stressing from surgery. His sensories may be all screwed

up-anesthesia takes about 2 weeks to get out of your system and this may be

the culprit.

Liz

behavior concern

> Mic is doing great but he really is overly active, hes been standing in

> the middle of our pool table dancing and I have been telling him to get

> down, after awhile he listened and would sit down fast before I got in the

> room, I got louder and firmer each time,The last time I yelled hard at him

> and he got down and went to his chair and cried I turned to walk away

> because I cant stand to see him cry and he started slapping himself, I

> heard Steve raise his voice to him and he cried and started slapping

> himself again, I dont like this behavior at all and Im not sure what to do

> about it, we are gonna have to remove the pool table its not safe although

> he hasnt fallen he seems to know his boundaries dancing up there its still

> not safe.The slapping himself after being repremanded really bothers me,

> any thoughts?Mic does not seem to understand no unless its a firm loud no

> and now I dont know how to react.Any thoughts? Hes smart enough to know

> hes doing something wrong though. Hes punch!

> ing the

> tv screen right now,just not himself. Definately the-out-of-sinc-child

> Laurie

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Hes punching the

> tv screen right now,just not himself. Definately the-out-of-sinc-

child Laurie

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Hi Laurie,

Certainly correct, this is partial info from my handouts and

notes, " Individuals who are more overwhelmed may over-react with " :

Recently learned some more at a workshop on this with Wheeler

on Sensory Interventions That Make a Big Difference for Children Who

Have Autism Spectrum Disorders. So here are a few of my notes on this-

I did ask if I could share some of her handout and she is sweet that

of course she said " yes " as long as I mention where credit is due.

* hyperagitation such as frantic climbing, darting about, running and

hitting the wall, repeated non-functional physical actions, intensive

self-stimulation at a frantic pace, etc.

When someone is overwhelmed or highly over-stimulated the first

priority is to calm the person back to a more relaxed state.

Next, note what types of stimuli or combination of stimuli led to the

over-stimulated reaction.

Stimuli that can lead to over-stimulation include: At the workshop we

review with some samples of this list but I'll just jot down only the

list.

* sights/visual stimuli

* sounds

* odors

* tastes

* textures

* movement

* people

* emotions

* anxiety

* panic attacks

* mands/tasks

* complexity

* boredom

* weather changes

* internal physical sensations

* ill, tired, hurting

* blood sugar

Prevent over-stimulated by:

Controlling environemental stimulation

* lightning

* noise exposure

* controlling talking

* controlling movement of person or others

* controlling timing or placement of seating

* number of individuals

* closeness to other people

Decreasing complexity

* distant observation

* decrease response demands

* minimize handwriting/or talking

* decrease demands on working memory

* decrease sources of strong sensory input

Providing relaxation breaks

* scheduled

* as needed

* on request

* earned reward

* in place of time spent on drill and practice

Conditions that commonly trigger diorientation include, but are

limited to:

- Changing positions (sitting up, standing, lying down, sitting down)

- moving in space (walking, running, jumping, spinning, etc)

- perceiving objects or other people moving, especially when that

movement is perceived in the periperheral fields at or above the

person's eye level

- seizure activity

- illness

- ear infection

- allergies

- weather changes

- changing acitvities

- changing materials used

- moving one's head to look at a different picture, object or person

- bending over while standing or sitting

- looking at papers, print, pictures or visual patterns for long

periods of time or without attaching meaning or language to what is

being viewed.

Think about all the acitvities that occur numerous times each day

that involve these possible triggers! Note actual activities the

person is doing that involve the conditions listed above. These are

the activities during which you need to monitor more carefully and

recognize the role they play in behavior.

Keep these guidelines in mind and carefully note the conditions that

are present when the behaviors you checked are observed. Knowing what

behaviors indicate the person may be disoriented is very important to

planning and implementing effective interventions. Recognizing the

conditions that may trigger episodes of disorientation plays a

critical role in planning strategies that are effective in preventing

and responding to these episodes.

I'll share more later on the What to do to prevent disorientation?

What to do once the person is showing signs of possibly being

disoriented? When a person is showing signs of possibly being

disoriented along with some self-modulation of emotions can be

improvd in the short-term by which I'll share later. Just thought I

write this for now.

Remain calm and speak in a low, non-emotional tone, calmly use

pictures or simple, short wording to inform the person where he is

Allow him to be very still for several seconds to several minutes.

(The vestibular system is stimulated when you receive information

through your inner ear, usually by moving your head in space.)

Everyday activities that develop the vestibular system:

* jumping * walking on raised surfaces

* swinging * sliding

* walking up/down steps * standing on head

* tumbling * dancing

* horseback riding * aerobic exercise

* riding a sit and spin * riding rolling toys

* crawling * throwing balls at a target

* basketball * soccer

* climbing

* running

* riding bicycle/tricycle

* martial arts

* power walks

* swimming

Be sure to provide a deep pressure/prioceptive experience following

any vestibular stimulation that does not include deep pressure, joint

pressure or proprioceptive stimulation.

Irma,17,DS/ASD

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Liz I think your absolutely right here,hes been really busy since the

hospitalization. I thought it was my brother but hes still at it.He doesnt walk

from room to room he runs as fast as his little legs will go.Hes slowing down

now its 9 and hes been at it since 6 this am.I mean a handful I tried to change

his diaper and he was kicking so fast and hard I had to get my dh.Tomorrow I

will take him outside for awhile and run him see if that helps.I hate to push

him to hard because of his wound.Calming is not affecting him at all.He turned

on all the tvs in the house we have 4 and insisted they were all on running from

one to the other.Hes getting tired thank God.Im whooped!! And Irma my goodness

you are a wealth of information, I printed out your info and will start keeping

track. I found The Out-of-Sync-Child book I will run through it see what that

says and get the swing out.He cannot stay on task to do anything calm.Thanks for

the info just hoping this doesnt last too many more days

I cant keep up with him.Even my dh cant do a thing with him everything is in

constant motion.I guess this is better than regression and losing skills, but

its a different kind of regression I have never seen before. Laurie

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Laurie,

Caution on him being outside for some pysical activities just yet, he

has an open wound an if under meds this would trigger off some more

over-stimulation or other medical issues. Definitely a set back with

his underlying medical issues going on.

Do you stay in touch with the OT who specializes with sensory

intervention/sensory defensiveness? So that he or she could share some

calming activities or some form of desentizing with you before

implementing any sensory interventions.

I'll try to share more later, so for now wait on the other activities

until some form of calming activities is implemented, he is overwired

with so much going on in his system. No yelling or raising your voice

this adds on. Wish someone told me this in the past. I know its hard

right now to get him calm for now. This would require some scheduling

relaxation breaks every 1.5 to 2 hours and so his climbing, etc. are

his way relaxation activities. Does Mic have a weight vest? Weight lap

pad?

Sorry I will get back as soon as I can.

Irma,17,DS/ASD

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Laurie: Tori is non-stop constantly. Our issue is when she slows down we

know something is wrong. I hope he starts coming back to himself for you

guys. I know how exhausting it is.

Liz

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> Liz I think your absolutely right here,hes been really busy since the

> hospitalization. I thought it was my brother but hes still at it.He doesnt

> walk from room to room he runs as fast as his little legs will go.Hes

> slowing down now its 9 and hes been at it since 6 this am.I mean a handful

> I tried to change his diaper and he was kicking so fast and hard I had to

> get my dh.Tomorrow I will take him outside for awhile and run him see if

> that helps.I hate to push him to hard because of his wound.Calming is not

> affecting him at all.He turned on all the tvs in the house we have 4 and

> insisted they were all on running from one to the other.Hes getting tired

> thank God.Im whooped!! And Irma my goodness you are a wealth of

> information, I printed out your info and will start keeping track. I found

> The Out-of-Sync-Child book I will run through it see what that says and

> get the swing out.He cannot stay on task to do anything calm.Thanks for

> the info just hoping this doesnt last too many mo!

> re days

> I cant keep up with him.Even my dh cant do a thing with him everything is

> in constant motion.I guess this is better than regression and losing

> skills, but its a different kind of regression I have never seen before.

> Laurie

>

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