Re: A good IEP experience/Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

I know you still have a ways to go but as Trisha receives the right services

she will progress and getting what you need for her will be so much easier. My

thinking regarding ESY it's about money but more importantly is Trisha has

emerging skills you need to maintain the structure so she keeps moving forward.

Zeb doesn't really have any major speech issues but Gail could use some

suggestions for Seth. The slp working with Seth stinks, I can't find a better

word for her.I have Gail's permission to gripe for her,LOL. I basically pulled

Zeb out of speech this year because I knew it would be a waste of time with the

slp at the middle school. Trisha is long overdue for all these great services

and it's about time you can sit back and take a break. I am in a fairly stress

free year with Zeb. Of course with him it's always something. I'm not letting my

guard down but I am enjoying this year more than I ever had before. It is all

too rare that we can go to a meeting, sit back and let the

pros speak up for services. You can finally experience for the first time how

it feels when the system works as it was intended. We are fortunate because many

parents give up before they get to that place.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

Csvillars@... wrote:

Charlyne,

Thanks, It has been a long hard struggle and I know there will be more

struggles before she finishes school but this reprieve is so good. My body and

mind needed this. She has a great SLP who is helping us to push total

communication and she told the IEP team at the last meeting what the school

needed

to do to in order for Trisha to make more progress in communication. She

really went to bat for Trisha and that was a first for us. I wish you guys could

have heard her at the meeting she was awesome. It was like night and day

from the SLP at the public school. I get reports from this SLP and she gives

instructions to the teacher on what to do regarding speech/language. The OT

is the same, she has the school working on Trisha sensory needs and helped us

to get sensory items for home. I know the school is all for the ESY ( no

offense but it's extra money in their pockets). From my understanding we as a

team decide what she needs and then we present it to the FAPT team for their

approval and funding. It will be interesting to see how it goes at the IEP

meeting. :-)

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/3/2006 12:59:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

Zeb doesn't really have any major speech issues but Gail could use some

suggestions for Seth. The slp working with Seth stinks, I can't find a better

word for her.I have Gail's permission to gripe for her,LOL.

not knowing Seth's strengths or weakness I have just gone quickly through

the SLP notes and picked out a few things that might be something to look at.

Trisha is listed as severe speech impairment. There is much more but most of

it is based on Trisha's needs and I wasn't sure if that would be much help.

Don't know if this will help any and after the IEP meeting I will have more

information.

The following areas are being addressed through therapy and consultation

with the staff/teacher: social-communicative development; receptive language;

and expressive language via sign, pictures, speech and communication device.

each session begins with brushing arms, hands, and then fingers with an

attempt to " wiggle " fingers after brushing (this is for her motor impairment)

Sign is used during the whole session

picture communication should be intensified within the school environment.

work on increasing:

vocabulary: labels, objects and actions

work on categories

speech should be targeted indirectly by using slow, over-articulated speech

in 1-3 utterances and verbal praise for using voice

focus on oral motor movements to help with oral motor awareness

work on opening and closing mouth

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the info. Seth has no speech and with his spasticity I do not think

he could be taught sign that anyone would probably understand consistantly. He

does have a go talk and uses PECS. The school staff is not consistant and

proficient with the go talk or PECS. Seth can make some sounds like the h sound

for hi. He understands hi-five etc. I feel so helpless because he tries to

communicate more and more each time I visit. I want to slap that IEP team. Any

ideas would be appreciated. I am not afraid to use my mouth at meetings but it's

better knowing some tricks of the trade that have worked well with Trisha. I am

looking for an ed consultant in that area but these professionals are all too

scare in Gail's area. It's amazing how well Trisha is doing with the proper

techniques. Zeb get's into big trouble with his speech. He was not quite too

happy with what the OT was asking him to do yesterday and he called her a joke

quite sarcastically.He was in math class at the time and

the teacher had to tell him to knock it off. I wish I knew where these words

came from. I didn't know he understood what that meant. They say the apple

doesn't fall far fom the tree but geez, I never say anything like that or maybe

I do.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

Csvillars@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/3/2006 12:59:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

Zeb doesn't really have any major speech issues but Gail could use some

suggestions for Seth. The slp working with Seth stinks, I can't find a better

word for her.I have Gail's permission to gripe for her,LOL.

not knowing Seth's strengths or weakness I have just gone quickly through

the SLP notes and picked out a few things that might be something to look at.

Trisha is listed as severe speech impairment. There is much more but most of

it is based on Trisha's needs and I wasn't sure if that would be much help.

Don't know if this will help any and after the IEP meeting I will have more

information.

The following areas are being addressed through therapy and consultation

with the staff/teacher: social-communicative development; receptive language;

and expressive language via sign, pictures, speech and communication device.

each session begins with brushing arms, hands, and then fingers with an

attempt to " wiggle " fingers after brushing (this is for her motor impairment)

Sign is used during the whole session

picture communication should be intensified within the school environment.

work on increasing:

vocabulary: labels, objects and actions

work on categories

speech should be targeted indirectly by using slow, over-articulated speech

in 1-3 utterances and verbal praise for using voice

focus on oral motor movements to help with oral motor awareness

work on opening and closing mouth

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2006 1:40:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

Thanks for the info. Seth has no speech and with his spasticity I do not

think he could be taught sign that anyone would probably understand

consistently.

for Trisha while she does use sign it is approximations, but the speech

therapist said that receptively it helps her to understand what is being said.

I

can understand her signs and those close to her can understand her signs and

maybe those who are fluent in sign could understand but with her low tone

and motor issues there are some signs she just cannot make. That is why total

communication is so important. The goal with the pictures is to work towards

a more dynamic communication device which the SLP thinks would be more

appropriate for Trisha especially since computers is an area Trisha does so

well

in. We are working on picture sentence puzzles that I made for her with

boardmaker so she can learn to put a sentence together. We are making very

basic

sentences such as I want chicken nuggets, or I like school. Trisha is just

now starting to sign 2-3 signs together, " want drink please " . She voices

mostly 1 word utterances with a splashing of 2 words on occasion. As I said,

we are still working on the IEP and hope to have it finished this coming

Tuesday if all goes well and then I can share what goals and objectives we are

working on. I know that since we are working towards a more dynamic form of

communication device that the SLP is working with sequencing. Most of the

goals

so far are very basic since they are going back and picking up what she has

never been taught. In our case we had to go backwards in order to move

forwards.

One of our objective is that she will verbalize, sign, exchange picture or

use assistive tech device to make requests, including requests for attention,

objects, actions, activities and people in 18/20 opportunities. We spell

out what total communication is just in case someone comes along who does

understand what the words Total Communication means. (verbalize, sign,

exchange

pictures, assistive technology device = Total Communication) Gestures and

pointing is also part of it. I know you know and most of us on here knows what

it means but you'd be surprised how many professionals don't get it.

I will copy our goals and objectives and send to you after I get the final

IEP and then you can look it over and see if any of it would be helpful. :-)

It's funny how Trisha communicates with us, she uses part sign, part

verbalization and part of what I call Show & Tell, where if she can't make us

understand by signing or verbalizing and doesn't have a picture handy she just

takes us by the hand and shows us what she wants.

Reading is another area that they have had to go all the way back to the

very beginning because there was no foundation started at all, and so it's very

slow going right now. Math is one of Trisha's hardest areas, she has such a

hard time even with just counting (yep you guessed it, again they had to go

back to the very beginning and start fresh). She doesn't seem to like math at

all, and we see more behaviors educationally wise when it comes to math.

This year they are working very hard on social behavior because of Trisha's

social anxieties. We are also working on time concepts and using timers and

schedules. They use Picture schedule, token board, First-Then cards and lots

of

reinforcers. In fact they encourage her to bring things in from home and

they use those for reinforcers on her token board. Ex. she works to collect

tokens when she collects all the tokens for that task she gets a 3 minute break

with her choice of reinforcer she does this 3 sessions and then she gets a

longer break to take a walk outside. They use lots of visuals in her class.

They are working on developing peer relationships and social/communicative

skills.

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2006 1:40:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

get's into big trouble with his speech. He was not quite too happy with what

the OT was asking him to do yesterday and he called her a joke quite

sarcastically.He was in math class at the time and

the teacher had to tell him to knock it off. I wish I knew where these words

came from. I didn't know he understood what that meant

Sorry had to laugh at that. That's the whole thing, there is so much

swimming around in our kids heads and without communication we just don't know

just

what is floating around and how much they are taking in. I watch Trisha and

I have to remind myself to be careful what I say in front of her because

even though she is still pretty much non-verbal, I dont' want the teacher

calling me one day saying Trisha was telling our life story through picture

cards.

lol

[Guest guest]

Whenever I read about Trisha's school, I just get a smile - it's so heartwarming

to know that there are teachers and staff out there that have what it takes to

teach our children in a non-traditional way. I'm so happy for you and Trisha,

she's making such great progress.

Of course we can't just praise the teachers only, it's not just because of

them that Trisha's is making such progress. I've " seen " what you do behind the

scenes Carol, you are amazing at keeping the learning circle going all the way

through home and back to school.

Good job,

Jayne

Csvillars@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/4/2006 1:40:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

Thanks for the info. Seth has no speech and with his spasticity I do not

think he could be taught sign that anyone would probably understand

consistently.

for Trisha while she does use sign it is approximations, but the speech

therapist said that receptively it helps her to understand what is being said.

I

can understand her signs and those close to her can understand her signs and

maybe those who are fluent in sign could understand but with her low tone

and motor issues there are some signs she just cannot make. That is why total

communication is so important. The goal with the pictures is to work towards

a more dynamic communication device which the SLP thinks would be more

appropriate for Trisha especially since computers is an area Trisha does so

well

in. We are working on picture sentence puzzles that I made for her with

boardmaker so she can learn to put a sentence together. We are making very

basic

sentences such as I want chicken nuggets, or I like school. Trisha is just

now starting to sign 2-3 signs together, " want drink please " . She voices

mostly 1 word utterances with a splashing of 2 words on occasion. As I said,

we are still working on the IEP and hope to have it finished this coming

Tuesday if all goes well and then I can share what goals and objectives we are

working on. I know that since we are working towards a more dynamic form of

communication device that the SLP is working with sequencing. Most of the

goals

so far are very basic since they are going back and picking up what she has

never been taught. In our case we had to go backwards in order to move

forwards.

One of our objective is that she will verbalize, sign, exchange picture or

use assistive tech device to make requests, including requests for attention,

objects, actions, activities and people in 18/20 opportunities. We spell

out what total communication is just in case someone comes along who does

understand what the words Total Communication means. (verbalize, sign,

exchange

pictures, assistive technology device = Total Communication) Gestures and

pointing is also part of it. I know you know and most of us on here knows what

it means but you'd be surprised how many professionals don't get it.

I will copy our goals and objectives and send to you after I get the final

IEP and then you can look it over and see if any of it would be helpful. :-)

It's funny how Trisha communicates with us, she uses part sign, part

verbalization and part of what I call Show & Tell, where if she can't make us

understand by signing or verbalizing and doesn't have a picture handy she just

takes us by the hand and shows us what she wants.

Reading is another area that they have had to go all the way back to the

very beginning because there was no foundation started at all, and so it's very

slow going right now. Math is one of Trisha's hardest areas, she has such a

hard time even with just counting (yep you guessed it, again they had to go

back to the very beginning and start fresh). She doesn't seem to like math at

all, and we see more behaviors educationally wise when it comes to math.

This year they are working very hard on social behavior because of Trisha's

social anxieties. We are also working on time concepts and using timers and

schedules. They use Picture schedule, token board, First-Then cards and lots

of

reinforcers. In fact they encourage her to bring things in from home and

they use those for reinforcers on her token board. Ex. she works to collect

tokens when she collects all the tokens for that task she gets a 3 minute break

with her choice of reinforcer she does this 3 sessions and then she gets a

longer break to take a walk outside. They use lots of visuals in her class.

They are working on developing peer relationships and social/communicative

skills.

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

I have to remind myself to be careful what I say in front of her because

even though she is still pretty much non-verbal, I dont' want the teacher

calling me one day saying Trisha was telling our life story through picture

cards.

lol

Reminds me when I worked as a Title 1 teacher years ago, you'd be surprised at

what the kids share at school with teachers!!! I constantly had " too much

information! " So you made me laugh about Trisha telling your life story through

picture cards. I love it!

Jayne

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

So true, there is not much privacy in my life with Zeb. I am very careful and

chose my words wisely but Zeb's principal, teachers and school central office

know all my business. Many times parents just show up at my door with school

issues, they are all named Mr.and Mrs. and are parents to Mikey or Emma.

He has been known to threaten the school staff with calling his attorney. I have

tried to teach him to stick up for himself and be a good self-advocate but he

tends to know what buttons to push. Zeb knows who is who's boss in the school

and hasn't hesitated to grab them in the hallway to complain about a teacher for

one thing or another. He keeps them in check too. Recently the sped director was

in his school and he asked her for a private meeting at that moment. She took

him in a private room with the principal sweating bullets on the other side of

the door in the hallway LOL. Zeb told her how much he liked the school and the

principal was very nice to him. They flagged me

down when I went to pick him up to tell me this story. I never know what I am

walking into with him or what he is going to say. Yesterday the sped chair

called to tell me how upset Zeb was knowing that I was taking his grandfather to

the hospital. He told her he couldn't work and needed to watch a movie for a

break. The truth was that Zeb didn't want to go to school and asked to stay home

and take a ride to a dr appt with his grandfather. He was not upset in the least

but was afraid to miss out on maybe something fun that I may do like out to

lunch etc. He's a smart devil.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 13 DS/OCD/ASD?

Csvillars@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/4/2006 1:40:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

get's into big trouble with his speech. He was not quite too happy with what

the OT was asking him to do yesterday and he called her a joke quite

sarcastically.He was in math class at the time and

the teacher had to tell him to knock it off. I wish I knew where these words

came from. I didn't know he understood what that meant

Sorry had to laugh at that. That's the whole thing, there is so much

swimming around in our kids heads and without communication we just don't know

just

what is floating around and how much they are taking in. I watch Trisha and

I have to remind myself to be careful what I say in front of her because

even though she is still pretty much non-verbal, I dont' want the teacher

calling me one day saying Trisha was telling our life story through picture

cards.

lol

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2006 11:52:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ICANFIELD@... writes:

If my life ever settles down I really would like to travel out your way

to visit you Carol and who knows leave with you too.

If you ended up getting Trisha to communicate somehow I know you'll get

to communicate too.

You are always welcome! We might have to throw up a tent in the backyard

because my trailer is so tiny or better yet we'll rent an RV! lol I'd take

in a heart beat! :-) Now you do remember that Trisha's communication

is very limited and we use many different methods of communication.

Yesterday she wanted mashed potatoes and she came and signed potatoes but my

mind

wasn't working very well because at the time I just didn't get it, her sign for

mashed potatoes also looks like a couple of other signs so she went and got

the picture off the fridge of mashed potatoes and brought to me. She also

signed she wanted a sandwich, so my child had a very unbalanced lunch of mashed

potatoes and ham sandwich. lol Oh I forgot she evened signed/said please,

so how could I refuse that? lol The other thing is when she asks and when

it is possible I try to give her what she has requested because it leads to

more requests which as you know leads to more communication. There are times

however, when you can't give her what she requested and she is not a happy

camper then for a few minutes. One thing that has helped her was to take

pictures of everyone working with her, she has made a game out of holding up

each

picture and signing " name " meaning she wants you to tell her their names,

then she repeats the names behind you, sometimes I will say a wrong name and

she

will say/sign the correct name. You have to listen very carefully though

because some of her verbalizations sound so much the same and I really don't

know how we have learned to figure out the very slight differences but we have

managed pretty well. For instance, and sound very close if

you don't pay attention, Jessie, Percy and Gracie sound very close again if

you don't listen or watch where she looks. What I like is that she is

beginning to realize if we can't understand her one way to find another way to

tell

us.

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

Irma a lot of good networking for both yourself and others. Louise

Re: A good IEP experience/Carol

HI Carol,

Incredible news indeed. Looking forward hearing more.

Thank you for always sharing about Trisha.

How funny what you and Charlyne wrote in regards to watching out what

is said. Zeb and Trisha are such a joy to have no doubt. : )

Love them! When I speak to Charlyne via phone I'll interrupt her and

ask her " Was that Zeb " . My heart just melts.

If my life ever settles down I really would like to travel out your way

to visit you Carol and who knows leave with you too.

If you ended up getting Trisha to communicate somehow I know you'll get

to communicate too.

Today after the workshop I had attended, this lady ended up tracking me

down as I was speaking to other parents who were sharing their stories

about their youngsters under the spectrum with the same school district

attends. Well, this lady wanted to offer her service. Could this

be true with what is being offered? She said they do all sorts of

Research with our kids and like for of course to work around

with his communication skills or whatever other area needed they would

run assessments on the areas needed, we do not have to pay, they pay

the person. I ended up emailing her as per her request after I heard

her and now will wait on the outcome of it to hear more.

ww.HarcourtAssessment.com

There were other parents around whom I never met and they would come up

to me asking me " Your Irma? " and would introduce themselves as I would

tell them " Yes " . Of course I'm such an airhead wondering all puzzled

but they would end up thanking me for whatever information I had shared

with our local ASA support group.

Of course I thanked everyone who approached me and I had realized I was

not wearing a name tag but I was still wondering how they knew who I

was? That 's mom really gets around. : )

At the end walking out towards the parking lot one mom followed me out

as her son has numerous feeding problems and thanked me for the

Nutrition therapy information I had given her. Bless her heart her eyes

were watery as she told me " I'm so glad I came to this workshop and had

the pleasure of meeting you, you gave me so much hope. "

The presenters there were OT's they did give a good presentation and

she had even asked them a question in regards to her sons feeding

issue. My head just shooked with their response. I told her that the

OT's do know their job but they should of replied that once the

physical aspect are examined than its finding some oral motor exercises

with the help of a dietitian or nutritonist too and of course I had

refered her to one.

Their response not to the 't' but close enough. If he is a picky eater,

do not give in to him then she said " but I do not want him to starve " ,

they said " he won't he'll come around the next day " , something like

this. Another parent said " all my son wants to do is eat Chicken

nuggets and french fries " , their response almost the same thing and do

not give in. Kinda of like let them starve.

I gave her a great big hug and she wanted to make sure we exchanged

email address.

Seems like I end up helping others with whatever possible solutions at

the time and then when I hear some feedback from parents that they're

kids had made some tremendous gains, for some reason I can not really

believe what happened as here I have my own issues. Sorry just an odd

feeling.

It was a change of scenery needed though, which made my day knowing

other parents are seeking the proper interventions for their kids.

Hugs!

Irma,17,DS/ASD

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In a message dated 3/5/2006 11:14:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jacksonsmom99@... writes:

you think mashed potatoes and a ham sandwich are an unbalanced lunch you'd

die if you saw what exists on! LOL!

no I wouldn't, lol. If you would let her, Trisha would eat chicken nuggets

and french fries for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/5/2006 2:44:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jacksonsmom99@... writes:

Okay, then you know what I'm talking about LOL!

Yep, 'fraid I do! lol And you know why the weight is such an issue for

her. (now I wonder what the issue is for mom? probably the computer!)

As soon as the weather is warm enough that she will tolerate it we are going

to start a walking program around our yard. Since I quit smoking over 2

years ago I have gained so much weight. I'm working on our porch to get it

ready so that we can put some mats down and do some exercise as well. Baby

steps I know, but at least it's a start. :-)

Carol

Trishasmom

She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!

[Guest guest]

Hi Irma,

This is just another testimony to the wealth of information you provide to

families. You are a fantastic advocate and friend to so many. I know it's hard

when your advice works for others but your still feeling stuck. I know what you

mean.

I hope you know just how much you mean to this list and obviously all the tons

of people you are helping in the San area - I know they must be thrilled

when they do get to meet you.

Take care,

Jayne

mum592001 wrote:

HI Carol,

Incredible news indeed. Looking forward hearing more.

Thank you for always sharing about Trisha.

How funny what you and Charlyne wrote in regards to watching out what

is said. Zeb and Trisha are such a joy to have no doubt. : )

Love them! When I speak to Charlyne via phone I'll interrupt her and

ask her " Was that Zeb " . My heart just melts.

If my life ever settles down I really would like to travel out your way

to visit you Carol and who knows leave with you too.

If you ended up getting Trisha to communicate somehow I know you'll get

to communicate too.

Today after the workshop I had attended, this lady ended up tracking me

down as I was speaking to other parents who were sharing their stories

about their youngsters under the spectrum with the same school district

attends. Well, this lady wanted to offer her service. Could this

be true with what is being offered? She said they do all sorts of

Research with our kids and like for of course to work around

with his communication skills or whatever other area needed they would

run assessments on the areas needed, we do not have to pay, they pay

the person. I ended up emailing her as per her request after I heard

her and now will wait on the outcome of it to hear more.

ww.HarcourtAssessment.com

There were other parents around whom I never met and they would come up

to me asking me " Your Irma? " and would introduce themselves as I would

tell them " Yes " . Of course I'm such an airhead wondering all puzzled

but they would end up thanking me for whatever information I had shared

with our local ASA support group.

Of course I thanked everyone who approached me and I had realized I was

not wearing a name tag but I was still wondering how they knew who I

was? That 's mom really gets around. : )

At the end walking out towards the parking lot one mom followed me out

as her son has numerous feeding problems and thanked me for the

Nutrition therapy information I had given her. Bless her heart her eyes

were watery as she told me " I'm so glad I came to this workshop and had

the pleasure of meeting you, you gave me so much hope. "

The presenters there were OT's they did give a good presentation and

she had even asked them a question in regards to her sons feeding

issue. My head just shooked with their response. I told her that the

OT's do know their job but they should of replied that once the

physical aspect are examined than its finding some oral motor exercises

with the help of a dietitian or nutritonist too and of course I had

refered her to one.

Their response not to the 't' but close enough. If he is a picky eater,

do not give in to him then she said " but I do not want him to starve " ,

they said " he won't he'll come around the next day " , something like

this. Another parent said " all my son wants to do is eat Chicken

nuggets and french fries " , their response almost the same thing and do

not give in. Kinda of like let them starve.

I gave her a great big hug and she wanted to make sure we exchanged

email address.

Seems like I end up helping others with whatever possible solutions at

the time and then when I hear some feedback from parents that they're

kids had made some tremendous gains, for some reason I can not really

believe what happened as here I have my own issues. Sorry just an odd

feeling.

It was a change of scenery needed though, which made my day knowing

other parents are seeking the proper interventions for their kids.

Hugs!

Irma,17,DS/ASD

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Csvillars@... wrote: She also

signed she wanted a sandwich, so my child had a very unbalanced lunch of mashed

potatoes and ham sandwich. lol Oh I forgot she evened signed/said please,

so how could I refuse that?

Carol, If you think mashed potatoes and a ham sandwich are an unbalanced lunch

you'd die if you saw what exists on! LOL!

I think that's great that Trisha is trying so hard to get her words across to

you. Great job.

Take care,

Jayne

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Okay, then you know what I'm talking about LOL!

Csvillars@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/5/2006 11:14:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jacksonsmom99@... writes:

you think mashed potatoes and a ham sandwich are an unbalanced lunch you'd

die if you saw what exists on! LOL!

no I wouldn't, lol. If you would let her, Trisha would eat chicken nuggets

and french fries for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Carol

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She isn't Typical, She's Trisha!