Re: Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

[Guest guest]

Can you put Borax directly on a pet?  I am desperately seeking flea treatments

with absolutely no chemicals.  Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me

when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to

additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. "

  I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this?  It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm

hopeful.  I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't

want my animals to be subjected to it.  Thanks, sally

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From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...>

Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 5:53:21 PM

Subject: [] Re: Dare I title this - " killing mold "

 

I believe the borax suffocated the mold-I used it to kill fleas from the dog. I

needed something non toxic and borax was supposed to suffocate them. It worked

as far as I can tell-no fleas for a few years now. Why not mold? Cool idea,

thanks.

Surella

[Guest guest]

Oh my gosh, I think that would be reall bad for a pet. Please call a vet or do a

google search before trying it. Good luck!

On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:35 PM, sallyb <mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments

with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me

when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to

additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. "

I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm

hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't

want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally

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From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...>

Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 5:53:21 PM

Subject: [] Re: Dare I title this - " killing mold "

I believe the borax suffocated the mold-I used it to kill fleas from the dog. I

needed something non toxic and borax was supposed to suffocate them. It worked

as far as I can tell-no fleas for a few years now. Why not mold? Cool idea,

thanks.

Surella

[Guest guest]

Oh, of course, I wouldn't just try something.  Somehow, I was thinking Borax

was

similar to baking soda and relatively safe.  (Obviously not familiar with

Borax...new term and product for me.)  My goal is for both my pets and me to

stay healthy and away from toxic chemicals.  They love having baking soda

" baths. "   I read this was a good alternative to bathing, especially for animals

who are super sensitive and may have skin issues.  Even my finicky cat loved

her

baking soda session. 

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From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

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Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 8:42:47 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

Oh my gosh, I think that would be reall bad for a pet. Please call a vet or do a

google search before trying it. Good luck!

On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:35 PM, sallyb <mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments

with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me

when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to

additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. "

I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm

hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't

want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally

[Guest guest]

If your baby has fleas buy Dr Bronner's Organic Peppermint Soap, bathe him/her

in it. On second or third lather leave it on his coat for no less than 10

minutes.  NO LESS THAN 10 min.  Use a timer.  Wash ass linen bedding from pet

in

borax and same soap and soak it too for same time.   Repeat as needed to

control

and then you will not have a problem.  Mine do not have fleas or ticks like

this.  If you cannot use peppermint then just use the Organic Castile Soap from

Bronner.

DO NOT put borax on pet.  It is a poison.  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 11:42:47 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

Oh my gosh, I think that would be reall bad for a pet. Please call a vet or do a

google search before trying it. Good luck!

On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:35 PM, sallyb <mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

[Guest guest]

Dr Bronner's Peppermint soap works well.  The soap sufficates the fleas ticks

which is why it is important to leave it on no less than 10 minutes.  You also

have to vacum and clean everything else.  Fleas do not like to disturbed so

vacum a lot. Everything. 

If you have carpet you can put borax on carpet but neither you or your pets can

be there.  Leave on for 8 hrs minimum.  If you can go somewhere else then do

it

for 24.  hrs.  Someone should come back and vacum everything before you bring

family and pets home.

I had 3 babies and no fleas or ticks. Your yard can also be done with peppermint

soap. You get a sprayer for lawns and add the soap and treat your lawn

regularly.  It is a bottle that attaches to your hose, add soap add water spray

with hose connected.  Keeps out lots of bugs.  I cannot tolerate peppermint

soap

as long as I do not wash them.  So he helps me with this since he can tolerate

the soap.   

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...>

Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 9:39:39 AM

Subject: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

No the borax was for everything else (furniture, floors, etc.). I caved and used

an all natural but still fumey tick shampoo for the dog because I had no choice.

There are all natural products out there but they still contain the chemical

needed to kill the fleas.

Sorry I don;t have any better suggestions.

Surella

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[Guest guest]

Borax is a poison for humans and pets, not to be ingested so if you put it on

your pet or his floor bedding he will lick and it will cause harm.  You can

wash with it safely. Clean with it safely. But you just do not want to put it

in

your carpets or furniture and not remove it properly. 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Oh how cute! I don't think my cat would ever love a baking soda bath, but I

could see how baking soda would make a great bathing material. I'm sorry to hear

you are having problems with fleas! I wish I had some good ideas to share. Did

you find out anything about Borax?

On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:18 AM, sallyb <mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

Oh, of course, I wouldn't just try something. Somehow, I was thinking Borax was

similar to baking soda and relatively safe. (Obviously not familiar with

Borax...new term and product for me.) My goal is for both my pets and me to

stay healthy and away from toxic chemicals. They love having baking soda

" baths. " I read this was a good alternative to bathing, especially for animals

who are super sensitive and may have skin issues. Even my finicky cat loved her

[Guest guest]

I dissolve it in water and clean my floors with it.      I wash their

bedding

with it.  I did treat the last place with it, but we left with the pets and

brought them back after the vacuming. 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: KC <tigerpaw2c@...>

Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 6:39:54 PM

Subject: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

I have been putting Borax in my carpets for over 30yrs and have never had a

problem with it or my pets. I may do it once a yr. if I have any problem but

most likely once you do it that should be enough. I normally put it down heavy

and rake it in. Make sure you get it along the baseboards and corners. Let

excess sit a day or two then vacume.

NEVER had a problem

[Guest guest]

Nice...thanks for the advice, folks!  I'll try it!

sally

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From: dragonflymcs <dragonflymcs@...>

Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 5:39:44 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

I dissolve it in water and clean my floors with it.      I wash their

bedding

with it.  I did treat the last place with it, but we left with the pets and

brought them back after the vacuming. 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

[Guest guest]

Advocate!  My cat seems to wear a permanent sneer and dislikes anything that

interrupts her own " schedule " of hygiene, etc.  However, she just loved being

sprinkled with baking soda and cuddled up to me when I rubbed it in her belly

and back by her tail where she struggles to reach.  Loves it!  Go figure, eh,

but I read this on a holistic, natural vet site as a solution for skin issues. 

I am hearing differing views about Borax, so will wait on this for a bit...

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From: Advocate_Now <advocate_now@...>

" " < >

Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 12:34:30 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

Oh how cute! I don't think my cat would ever love a baking soda bath, but I

could see how baking soda would make a great bathing material. I'm sorry to hear

you are having problems with fleas! I wish I had some good ideas to share. Did

you find out anything about Borax?

On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:18 AM, sallyb <mustangsally2254@...> wrote:

Oh, of course, I wouldn't just try something. Somehow, I was thinking Borax was

similar to baking soda and relatively safe. (Obviously not familiar with

Borax...new term and product for me.) My goal is for both my pets and me to

stay healthy and away from toxic chemicals. They love having baking soda

" baths. " I read this was a good alternative to bathing, especially for animals

who are super sensitive and may have skin issues. Even my finicky cat loved her

[Guest guest]

Thanks...never, ever had a flea problem until we went to a dog park one day. 

My

pup came back with fleas, I guess, and generously gave them to her feline

sister.  For whatever reason, my pup no longer struggles with them, but my cat

still has them.  Go figure...just trying to help her get rid of them. 

Vacuuming

with baking soda and/or cleaning with vinegar just isn't doing it.  I've sent

for numerous " natural " cures, but just a whiff of them tells me they contain

something that would make me sick.  My dog is also highly sensitive; she

sneezes

if something has chemicals, so I trust her nose to warn me away from

products/places we shouldn't be around.  Thanks for the advice, folks...

(Sally, a note from me, try vacuuming, vaccuming and more vacuuming, wash

everything. You have to do this for 3 months to break the flea cycle, put

vaccum outside when not in use or throw bag away or put it in plastic bag. Barb)

[Guest guest]

http://greencomponents.com/2009/04/23/eco-friendly-borax/

 

 Boric acid (borax and boron-containing salts) is a low-toxicity mineral with

insecticidal, fungicidal, and herbicidal properties. It does not evaporate or

volatilize into the air or pose the considerable health concerns associated with

synthetic pesticides; however it can still pose health hazards and should be

used with care. As with any pesticide, keep boric acid pesticide products out of

reach of children and only use it in locations where it will not come in contact

with people or animals, such as in cracks and crevices, behind counters, and in

baseboards. While boric acid is somewhat slower acting than the synthetic

pesticides, like chlorpyrifos, diazinon, or pyrethrins, it is highly effective

over a long period of time.  

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoservices/pesticidefactsheets/leasttoxic/bori\

cacid_borates_borax.htm

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: sallyb <mustangsally2254@...>

Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 11:22:53 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

Advocate!  My cat seems to wear a permanent sneer and dislikes anything that

interrupts her own " schedule " of hygiene, etc.  However, she just loved being

sprinkled with baking soda and cuddled up to me when I rubbed it in her belly

and back by her tail where she struggles to reach.  Loves it!  Go figure,

eh,

but I read this on a holistic, natural vet site as a solution for skin

issues. 

I am hearing differing views about Borax, so will wait on this for a bit...

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[Guest guest]

You can get a mattress without fire retardants with a prescription.  No boric

acid in my mattress.   I do not know about how others fell about this.  Same

as

below it is all grouped together. 

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: listspub <listspub@...>

Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:11:30 PM

Subject: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

What about boric acid in a mattress as fire retardant? I am trying to order

witout the boric acid but wondering how much an issue it may really be?

Thanks..

Robin

[Guest guest]

absortion happens also threw your largest organ, your skin.  Great glad you got

a script for a mattress !!  Be happy about that others may not have a

mattress. 

Any achievement is a plus !!   

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: listspub <listspub@...>

Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 2:55:11 PM

Subject: [] Re: Borax: Flea Treatment

 

Im picking up prescriptions tommorrow and will proceed.. I guess it could get

airoborne, . ??

Robin