Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You are against using the flea drops. I hate pesticide too but I haven't found anything that will work besides that unless you keep them inside or you 'treat' the environment, which means pesticide outside. ..or you flea comb them every time they come inside but you have to get their belly and everything to be effective. That would be the most natural. If it's a dog, you can wash them but again you have to wash them every day. > > Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments > with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me > when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to > additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. " >  I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm > hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't > want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 No the borax was for everything else (furniture, floors, etc.). I caved and used an all natural but still fumey tick shampoo for the dog because I had no choice. There are all natural products out there but they still contain the chemical needed to kill the fleas. Sorry I don;t have any better suggestions. Surella > > Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments > with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me > when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to > additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. " >  I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm > hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't > want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Sally, You can treat carpets and rugs (and cushioned furniture if you have to) with steam vapor. Uses only water, no chemicals and is quite safe. If done slowly, the steam will kill all insects it hits (including mites). A decent machine costs about $400 but if you buy one with some friends, it will cut the cost. Repeat until no more fleas. (Since there is no liquid water involved, the surfaces dry out in a few hours with ventilation.) You would have to wash the pet as well (with your favorite soap). May May Indoor Air Investigations LLC www.mayindoorair.com > > Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments > with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me > when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to > additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. " >  I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm > hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't > want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally > > ________________________________ > From: surellabaer <surellabaer@...> > > Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 5:53:21 PM > Subject: [] Re: Dare I title this - " killing mold " > >  > I believe the borax suffocated the mold-I used it to kill fleas from the dog. I > needed something non toxic and borax was supposed to suffocate them. It worked > as far as I can tell-no fleas for a few years now. Why not mold? Cool idea, > thanks. > Surella > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 A vet told me long ago to use head and shoulders for both cats and dogs. I have never used anything else and seems to work great. I rarely find any fleas on them and I use 20 muleteam? borax for indoors and it does kill fleas roaches and eggs > > > > Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments > > with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me > > when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to > > additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. " > >  I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm > > hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't > > want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 My daughter uses only baking soda for shampoo and it works well. Very natural. Also, sorry if I wasn't clear about the borax-yes, very harmful if my dog had licked it (he didn't) but it did the job when I sprinkled it on the rug and floor and sofas. And, yes, I vacuumed ALOT! > > Oh, of course, I wouldn't just try something. Somehow, I was thinking Borax was > similar to baking soda and relatively safe. (Obviously not familiar with > Borax...new term and product for me.) My goal is for both my pets and me to > stay healthy and away from toxic chemicals. They love having baking soda > " baths. " I read this was a good alternative to bathing, especially for animals > who are super sensitive and may have skin issues. Even my finicky cat loved her > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I have been putting Borax in my carpets for over 30yrs and have never had a problem with it or my pets. I may do it once a yr. if I have any problem but most likely once you do it that should be enough. I normally put it down heavy and rake it in. Make sure you get it along the baseboards and corners. Let excess sit a day or two then vacume. NEVER had a problem > > Borax is a poison for humans and pets, not to be ingested so if you put it on > your pet or his floor bedding he will lick and it will cause harm. You can > wash with it safely. Clean with it safely. But you just do not want to put it in > your carpets or furniture and not remove it properly. > >  > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 What about boric acid in a mattress as fire retardant? I am trying to order witout the boric acid but wondering how much an issue it may really be? Thanks.. Robin > > http://greencomponents.com/2009/04/23/eco-friendly-borax/ >  >  Boric acid (borax and boron-containing salts) is a low-toxicity mineral with > insecticidal, fungicidal, and herbicidal properties. It does not evaporate or > volatilize into the air or pose the considerable health concerns associated with > synthetic pesticides; however it can still pose health hazards and should be > used with care. As with any pesticide, keep boric acid pesticide products out of > reach of children and only use it in locations where it will not come in contact > with people or animals, such as in cracks and crevices, behind counters, and in > baseboards. While boric acid is somewhat slower acting than the synthetic > pesticides, like chlorpyrifos, diazinon, or pyrethrins, it is highly effective > over a long period of time.  > > > http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoservices/pesticidefactsheets/leasttoxic/bori\ cacid_borates_borax.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 At my very sickest I reacted to boric acid - I put it down for ants. Now I tolerate it. I wonder though if it becomes an airborne dust- then it would be harmful. > > What about boric acid in a mattress as fire retardant? I am trying to order witout the boric acid but wondering how much an issue it may really be? > Thanks.. > > Robin > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Sally have you considered calling your vet and telling him your dilemma? i realize you dont want to use any chemicals but would something like Advantage flea drops create a problem for you? if the flea bites are bothering you that much imagine what your poor cat/dog is going through? When I lived in California we had two indoor cats that somehow got fleas. This was before Advantage came out and I used to watch my cat wake up every 5 minutes because fleas were biting them. I finally called the vet and asked if they had anything that could give my cats any relief which they did. I cant remember what the name of the product was but it had an extremely bad chemical smell but it didnt seem to bother the cats and it killed the fleas. Best of luck > > Can you put Borax directly on a pet? I am desperately seeking flea treatments > with absolutely no chemicals. Even the supposed " natural " treatments scare me > when they list ingredients and then follow that with a vague reference to > additional ingredients labelled only as " Patented Natural Flea Treatment. " >  I ordered Cedarcide; anyone else use this? It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm > hopeful. I get flea bites but can't handle any pesticide and certainly don't > want my animals to be subjected to it. Thanks, sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Im picking up prescriptions tommorrow and will proceed.. I guess it could get airoborne, . ?? Robin > > You can get a mattress without fire retardants with a prescription. No boric > acid in my mattress.  I do not know about how others fell about this. Same as > below it is all grouped together. > >  >  > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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