Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 we have a propane BBQ on the deck but its always covered and isnt near any windows. We jut purchased a new sofa and love seat but I didnt spend any time in the living room today, I was upstairs most of the day in front of the computer. Today like yesterday and the day before were bad days. Im 99.9% sure that the symptoms Im experiencing are being caused by the mold that was in the a/c coils my only question is, is it possible to recover from mold spores as long as the source has been removed? > > Tug, do you have any of these in your house/ kitchen. That would affect me in the whole house & more-so where it's located. I just remembered that the propane stove I lived with was yet another thing that could have contributed to my illness. Back then (this is before my total crash)a new piece of furniture gave me severe flu symptoms & spinal pain for weeks after spending time in the room with it. I thought I had spinal meningitis. It took 4 times before I put 2 & 2 together. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 natural gas too, and if you use either of these make sure the fan is on high and also get a carbon monoxide detector in the house.. our new place has a big gas stove top, I hate it cause it's an open floor plan, I have to run the fan on high and it's so noisy plus it is at my head level so my head is just soaking up the emfs... The solution, since it's not my stove to change out, I bought a 2-burner electric portable stove, set on the counter top, and will start using that as soon as my sick son moves into the downstairs (still being finished) and I can offgas the thing. sue >Tug, do you have any of these in your house/ kitchen. That would affect >me in the whole house & more-so where it's located. I just remembered >that the propane stove I lived with was yet another thing that could >have contributed to my illness. Back then (this is before my total crash) >a new piece of furniture gave me severe flu symptoms & spinal pain for >weeks after spending time in the room with it. I thought I had spinal >meningitis. It took 4 times before I put 2 & 2 together. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I can't speak for others, but being around new furniture or blankets/bedding, etc., is treacherous for me. They treat it with chemicals that they don't tell us about. I don't know what it is, but I can be sick for days, even if it's in a different room or several offices down. Now, that's just me, so... sally ________________________________ From: Tug <tug_slug@...> Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 8:55:54 PM Subject: [] Re: Gas, propane, oil we have a propane BBQ on the deck but its always covered and isnt near any windows. We jut purchased a new sofa and love seat but I didnt spend any time in the living room today, I was upstairs most of the day in front of the computer. Today like yesterday and the day before were bad days. Im 99.9% sure that the symptoms Im experiencing are being caused by the mold that was in the a/c coils my only question is, is it possible to recover from mold spores as long as the source has been removed? > > Tug, do you have any of these in your house/ kitchen. That would affect me in >the whole house & more-so where it's located. I just remembered that the propane >stove I lived with was yet another thing that could have contributed to my >illness. Back then (this is before my total crash)a new piece of furniture gave >me severe flu symptoms & spinal pain for weeks after spending time in the room >with it. I thought I had spinal meningitis. It took 4 times before I put 2 & 2 >together. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 If you're 99.9% sure how about more air purifiers (Aller Aire is my one of choice) & dehumidifiers to give it the final tweak. I know you really don't want to leave. Sytategically placed UV lights in the A/C system is another idea. > > we have a propane BBQ on the deck but its always covered and isnt near any windows. We jut purchased a new sofa and love seat but I didnt spend any time in the living room today, I was upstairs most of the day in front of the computer. Today like yesterday and the day before were bad days. > > Im 99.9% sure that the symptoms Im experiencing are being caused by the mold that was in the a/c coils my only question is, is it possible to recover from mold spores as long as the source has been removed? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Your new sofas are more likely than not, offgassing formaldhyde. I have not met anyone with MCS that did not react to it. You do not have to be sitting on them or very near to them to react. Just an idea~ > > > > Tug, do you have any of these in your house/ kitchen. That would affect me in the whole house & more-so where it's located. I just remembered that the propane stove I lived with was yet another thing that could have contributed to my illness. Back then (this is before my total crash)a new piece of furniture gave me severe flu symptoms & spinal pain for weeks after spending time in the room with it. I thought I had spinal meningitis. It took 4 times before I put 2 & 2 together. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 diane I thought about that last night oddly enough because of my situation I've been sleeping on the sofa. Ive been outside most of the day and feel perfectly normal i know that once i go back inside i'll be screwed. I wish I could attach the photo of the a/c coils that had mold on them, there really wasnt that much but apparently just enough to CROSS CONTAMINATE the rest of the house. Thanks for the suggestion > > Your new sofas are more likely than not, offgassing formaldhyde. I have not met anyone with MCS that did not react to it. You do not have to be sitting on them or very near to them to react. Just an idea~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 That's good sleuthing. I agree. Also, Tug, do you have carpet in the house? On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:45 PM, " dianebolton52 " <dianebolton@...> wrote: Your new sofas are more likely than not, offgassing formaldhyde. I have not met anyone with MCS that did not react to it. You do not have to be sitting on them or very near to them to react. Just an idea~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 this is why we are buying a wooden (not pine) futon frame, a cotton futon w/allergy encasing, to use instead of a toxic sofa, that will be the only stuffed furniture except for allergy encasing organic futon beds.... sue >Your new sofas are more likely than not, offgassing formaldhyde. I have >not met anyone with MCS that did not react to it. You do not have to be >sitting on them or very near to them to react. Just an idea~ > > >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 We have wooden floors in the kitchen and living room, Im not sure how long ago the wooden floors were installed beings they were here when we moved in. The rest of the house has carpet > > That's good sleuthing. I agree. Also, Tug, do you have carpet in the house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I can't remember--have you had mold testing dine at the house you're in? If not, someone should do a sample of the carpet. The mold expert here pounded on it with a spatula and then captured the dust in a cartridge. This will help you understand if you really are reacting to mold. Ripping out carpet isn't easy or inexpensive but it's one of the first things I would suggest someone do if they have problems with allergies and/or mold. That I now find myself in a situation caused in part by molds in a carpet is laughable to me since I knew this. I guess I thought that since it wasn't in my living space that I wouldn't have problems. Now I cannot use the back door of my unit because of that carpeting. I guess I'm saying that if you have the money, you can definitely make where you live safer for you. You'll never get away from mold; it's indoors and out. But the key is to get it down to negligible levels. On Aug 21, 2010, at 2:07 PM, " Tug " <tug_slug@...> wrote: We have wooden floors in the kitchen and living room, Im not sure how long ago the wooden floors were installed beings they were here when we moved in. The rest of the house has carpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Tug, is this A/C unit a central air unit or window unit? If it is central air, the unit would be located outside your home and could in no way contaminate the inside. If it's an window unit, the mold wouldn't be so much and a thorough cleaning of the interior of the home and removal of carpeting would work to make a safe place. Also, are you allergic to your dog? That's another reason to remove carpeting--it traps EVERYTHING. If you are allergic to dog hair, dust mites, etc., your carpet could be full of both. On Aug 21, 2010, at 1:33 PM, " Tug " <tug_slug@...> wrote: diane I thought about that last night oddly enough because of my situation I've been sleeping on the sofa. Ive been outside most of the day and feel perfectly normal i know that once i go back inside i'll be screwed. I wish I could attach the photo of the a/c coils that had mold on them, there really wasnt that much but apparently just enough to CROSS CONTAMINATE the rest of the house. Thanks for the suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 The compressor for a central A/C system is outside, however, the coil sits above the furnace. This is where the moisture condenses and is drained. We put a fan motor in the furnace that runs at low speed 24/7. It takes about 75 watts of power. The fan kicks up higher when the heat or A/C comes on. This is helpful to get rid of excess moisture and I like because it gives you a whole house air cleaner. Jean Its central air but the a/c coils are located in the basement. I took a picture of the mold in the coils, I'm using my iphone to reply to your question later on when it cools down I'll get my lap top out and post the picture. Thanks Tug > > Tug, is this A/C unit a central air unit or window unit? If it is central air, the unit would be located outside your home and could in no way contaminate the inside. If it's an window unit, the mold wouldn't be so much and a thorough cleaning of the interior of the home and removal of carpeting would work to make a safe place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Its central air but the a/c coils are located in the basement. I took a picture of the mold in the coils, I'm using my iphone to reply to your question later on when it cools down I'll get my lap top out and post the picture. Thanks Tug > > diane I thought about that last night oddly enough because of my situation I've been sleeping on the sofa. Ive been outside most of the day and feel perfectly normal i know that once i go back inside i'll be screwed. I wish I could attach the photo of the a/c coils that had mold on them, there really wasnt that much but apparently just enough to CROSS CONTAMINATE the rest of the house. > > Thanks for the suggestion > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 did you have the same problen with mold growing on your a/c coils or did you just add the fan as a precaution? Thanks Tug > > The compressor for a central A/C system is outside, however, the coil sits > above the furnace. This is where the moisture condenses and is drained. > > We put a fan motor in the furnace that runs at low speed 24/7. It takes > about 75 watts of power. The fan kicks up higher when the heat or A/C comes > on. This is helpful to get rid of excess moisture and I like because it > gives you a whole house air cleaner. > Jean > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 We had installed a Spaceguard filter on the furnace and I saw an article in our local paper about the motor, so we put one on to make the filter run 24/7. This was before we knew mold was an issue, but I don't remember there being any mold on the coil. I did check after reading your story and it seems ok. Always something else to be aware of. Jean Posted by: " Tug " _tug_slug@... _ (mailto:tug_slug@...?Subject= Re:%20Gas,%20propane,%20oil) _tug_slug _ (tug_slug) Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:01 pm (PDT) did you have the same problen with mold growing on your a/c coils or did you just add the fan as a precaution? Thanks Tug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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