PSTD-Jeri/Re: OT Magnesium

[Guest guest]

PTSD is actually a misdiagnoses with most of the WDB cases.

in the way that the symptoms of, are physically induced, altough some is stress

related, the stress relation is also physically induced.

a lot of mood disorders can accure because of damage to the frontal

cortex,lobes,and within the limbic system and this can continue to cause mood

disorders and other symptoms that go along with re-exposures.

practiceing advoidance can help with control of these symptoms.

in simular ways it's alot alike but it's not the same.

however there is a possability that some might experience PTSD because of the

situations they find theirself in, I guess, but it's not the same and seeing a

shrink isn't going to help you with the PTSD symptoms related to actual physical

damage and disfunction to nerves and brain.

actually some effects can interfear with emotional reactions and might actually

protect you in a way from over stressing out over the situation, I really dont

react in most situations like I should, but re-exposures cause a over-reaction

of moods sometimes, so it's not really something you can control, except with

advoidance.

for example, I might go to a wedding and cry my eyes out, it's not the wedding,

it's all the purfumes everybodies wearing.

>

> I can in some little way understand how you are feeling. The PTSD.. the lose

of faith and anger. You are obviously a very strong person and will make

something good and worthy come out of this experience..which is evident already.

Life can be so terrifying, enraging and disempowering. We need to feel some sort

of control, power over this and some sense of being able to resume beyond the

trauma. I dont think we get that sometimes and Im not sure how to resolve that a

the moment. I know my sister was treated horribly and when she reached the point

where she got her power back she actually laughed back at them. It was like she

had a secret and they obviously would never get it nor would they ever hurt her

again. The event was past, gone. I would love to be there.. it seems " the event "

is still on going in a slow chronic way.

>

> Robin

>

>

[Guest guest]

Robin, I tend to agree with you - especially regarding " it was like she had

a secret and they obviously would never get it nor would they ever hurt her

again. " I've found that secret.. and it really throws doctors and medical

professionals for loops. I've discovered the secret to reversing

significant cases of chronic diseases of affluence. There's not one simple

solution... the human body was designed to heal thyself.... unless

" minerals " is that solution... and she was right " they obviously will never

get it. " Dr. Wallach has proven this time and time again... such as in

the Exotic Animal Tome he published in 1983 - the year my mother died of

heart disease, unnecessarily at the age of 47. I know today how to have

helped her live back then, 27 years later. Anyway, Dr. Wallach (DVM, ND)

has many answers in plain black and white in a number of his books.. from

the Diseases of Exotic Animals, to Dead Doctors Don't Lie, to Let's Play

Doctor to Immortality- he's a clinical pathologist who figured out the

answers that many health professionals will never figure out - after

conducting 20,000 autopsies between himself and his wife, Dr. Ma Lan, MD.

That secret shared by a number of us who've for whatever reason found

ourselves as no longer engendered to rely upon the public medical system for

one reason or another.

Do you know the personal security realizing that you will most likely never

battle heart disease? cancer? or so many other diseases of affluence? It

can be very very empowering ;-)

As far as my PTSD, I'm slowly overcoming it, not willingly, but simply by

DESENSITIZATION. Since it occurred in a medical setting by medical

personnel, I'm having to slowly get used to being in a medical setting, with

medical personnel. Unfortunately, this means that we've had far too many

encounters with ill-educated medical personnel. Somehow, slowly, painfully

slowly I'm getting somewhat desensitized to the environment.. but it doesn't

mean I'll ever be able to let my guard down. Afterall, one of my doctors

recently stated to me " but hospitals can KILL you! " Little did he know how

those words ring so terribly true. Yet.. he does know.

Jeri

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:10 PM, listspub <listspub@...> wrote:

>

>

> I can in some little way understand how you are feeling. The PTSD.. the

> lose of faith and anger. You are obviously a very strong person and will

> make something good and worthy come out of this experience..which is evident

> already. Life can be so terrifying, enraging and disempowering. We need to

> feel some sort of control, power over this and some sense of being able to

> resume beyond the trauma. I dont think we get that sometimes and Im not sure

> how to resolve that a the moment. I know my sister was treated horribly and

> when she reached the point where she got her power back she actually laughed

> back at them. It was like she had a secret and they obviously would never

> get it nor would they ever hurt her again. The event was past, gone. I would

> love to be there.. it seems " the event " is still on going in a slow chronic

> way.

>

> Robin

>

>

[Guest guest]

Osi, though I somewhat agree with you - for me the PTSD is most definitely

attributable to a very crazy event that should never have occurred, and was

then attempted to be covered up by related professionals who would have

likely then contributed to a repeat performance yet then they would have

simply stated " it was his heart, he's had heart disease, it was just a

matter of time. " This is just simply a line of BS repeated countless times,

day after day, all around our society. Doubt this? Check into the works of

Dr. Sinatra, MD. A cardiologist who was tired of his patients

dieing while awaiting heart transplants. The MAJORITY of his patients who

were on heart transplant waiting lists were able to resume relatively normal

activities within a short period of time, many went back to work full time.

What happened to the need for heart transplants? So why isn't this

information mainstream? It's most certainly available in plain English -

check out Reverse Heart Disease Now for some plain language, about an 8th

grade level.. or Metabolic Cardiology. A lil higher reading, but the

protocols in the back of the book are VERY easy to understand to the average

adolescent ;-)

Osi, I have no idea if my PTSD is also somehow linked to my history of

exposure to WDBs, but I DO know that I have witnessed the remains from a

plane crash, I have personally faced death straight on at least once in my

life, yet nothing affected me to any degree whatsoever as did the point of

watching my loved one experience a needless tragic death experience at the

hands of a negligent medical team but then who elected to cover up the real

situation thereby contributing to another medical team attempting to coerce

him into very risky procedures that were not medically necessary,

obviously.. For that, I seriously doubt I would have PTSD to the extent I

do today had they simply acknowledged their error and helped us move

forward, sanely.

My goal initially was to avoid ALL medical settings, then it wouldn't

trigger the PTSD. However, since then my husband was hospitalized for a

partially paralyzing tick bite (9 days), a fractured hip (several days), a

return to the ER by ambulance (thanks home health care), another trip to the

ER by ambulance (broken back, lost balance from the hip fracture (good side)

and the setback from the atrophied tick bite (bad side)), and then my own

three ER visits for my own recurrent DVT and then complications of adverse

reactions to Warfarin (thankfully I'm finally back on Lovenox now, at least

temporarily.) I seriously doubt I will ever take Coumadin again... dan

shen and nattokinase along with other supplements should be able to help me

stem the tide.. at least so I hope. ;-)

So now I guess I need to figure out some way to desensitize to the hospital

setting without having yet more runs to the ER... too expensive and too hard

on my sanity.

Oh, speaking of which.. either I have figured out a way to manage my stress,

or the warfarin is already detoxing. My typical blood pressure that was

106/68 prior to warfarin but then was running 180s/80s while on warfarin is

now officially back to the 106 range :-)

Jeri

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:08 PM, osisposis <jeaninem660@...>wrote:

>

>

> PTSD is actually a misdiagnoses with most of the WDB cases.

> in the way that the symptoms of, are physically induced, altough some is

> stress related, the stress relation is also physically induced.

> a lot of mood disorders can accure because of damage to the frontal

> cortex,lobes,and within the limbic system and this can continue to cause

> mood disorders and other symptoms that go along with re-exposures.

> practiceing advoidance can help with control of these symptoms.

> in simular ways it's alot alike but it's not the same.

> however there is a possability that some might experience PTSD because of

> the situations they find theirself in, I guess, but it's not the same and

> seeing a shrink isn't going to help you with the PTSD symptoms related to

> actual physical damage and disfunction to nerves and brain.

> actually some effects can interfear with emotional reactions and might

> actually protect you in a way from over stressing out over the situation, I

> really dont react in most situations like I should, but re-exposures cause a

> over-reaction of moods sometimes, so it's not really something you can

> control, except with advoidance.

> for example, I might go to a wedding and cry my eyes out, it's not the

> wedding, it's all the purfumes everybodies wearing.

>