Re: Re: ACOEM Does Not Appear To Want Outside Comment Before ...

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

I am just as angry as the next person about what has happened over this

issue and the lives that have been devastated. But, you have to realize that

this was not the work of just one or two or even three or four people. It

was a collective, conscious choice to promote policy that denied causation

of illness.

While the means never justify the ends and lives have been destroyed; in

the early two thousands this issue was like the Wild West. Everybody and

their brother became a mold expert, whether they were an attorney, an IH, a

remediator, a physician or a professional witness, etc.

So while I certainly do not condone what has occurred over this issue and

feel the ethical and moral way to address this issue would have been to

quickly get on it and set guidelines that could be used to give physicians and

the public accurate and calming information - it makes me REAL NERVOUS and

uncomfortable to see it be wished upon anyone that they be intentionally

forced to be subjected to pesticides and cheap cleaners with the intent of

purposely harming their health. Jail time, maybe for some. But certainly

not the willing them physical harm.

Fight the issue. Fight the pseuo-science. Fight their conflicts of

interest.

But in light of what has recently occurred in Arizona, please do not plant

the idea to those who may be less stable and even more angry than

ourselves, that anyone deserves to be personally harmed because of what has

occurred.

Meredith, I don't mean to preach of demean your anger and concerns - we

just need to be careful that our words to do not cause wrong actions of

others.

Thanks,

Sharon

In a message dated 1/23/2011 10:26:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

productionking04@... writes:

I sure wish that the ones responsible for destroying the health of so many

would have to go to jail for a year and make it a moldy one at that where

they spray lots of pesticides and nasty cheap cleaners. Then they would know

what children have to put up with in school every day. It's not like they

don't know what they are doing. Therrefore ai think it is malicious and

should be cocnsidered premeditated assault.

But a pipedream.

Meredith

Sharon Noonan Kramer

[Guest guest]

A US Congresswoman was shot while having a meet the public forum outside of

a grocery store. A Federal Judge was killed along with five other people,

including a child.

While there is no evidence of political motivation by a disturbed young

man, the concept has been planted by the media that it is politically

connected.

A + B + C

People are angry over many things that have occurred in this country. We

want to speak out of the wrongs as is our right and duty; but never help

plant the idea among those who may be unstable that physically harming another

is a solution to problems in politics and policy in the US.

One must be careful of what they write on chat boards. You never know who

is reading or what has occurred or what they are willing to do with their

anger if the wrong idea is planted in their minds.

Fight the issue. Fight the pseudo-science. Fight the conflicts of

interest. But be careful to not innocently plant the idea in some poor soul's

mind that anyone deserves to be physically harmed over this issue.

From speaking out of the deceit, I have had days where I feared for my

safety and that of my family's. I would not wish that on my worst enemy.

Sharon

In a message dated 1/23/2011 5:27:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

dragonflymcs@... writes:

What has transpired in Arizona ?

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

Sharon Noonan Kramer

[Guest guest]

What has transpired in Arizona ? 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: " snk1955@... " <snk1955@...>

Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 2:10:33 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: ACOEM Does Not Appear To Want Outside Comment

Before ...

 

Dear All,

I am just as angry as the next person about what has happened over this

issue and the lives that have been devastated. But, you have to realize that

this was not the work of just one or two or even three or four people. It

was a collective, conscious choice to promote policy that denied causation

of illness.

While the means never justify the ends and lives have been destroyed; in

the early two thousands this issue was like the Wild West. Everybody and

their brother became a mold expert, whether they were an attorney, an IH, a

remediator, a physician or a professional witness, etc.

So while I certainly do not condone what has occurred over this issue and

feel the ethical and moral way to address this issue would have been to

quickly get on it and set guidelines that could be used to give physicians and

the public accurate and calming information - it makes me REAL NERVOUS and

uncomfortable to see it be wished upon anyone that they be intentionally

forced to be subjected to pesticides and cheap cleaners with the intent of

purposely harming their health. Jail time, maybe for some. But certainly

not the willing them physical harm.

Fight the issue. Fight the pseuo-science. Fight their conflicts of

interest.

But in light of what has recently occurred in Arizona, please do not plant

the idea to those who may be less stable and even more angry than

ourselves, that anyone deserves to be personally harmed because of what has

occurred.

Meredith, I don't mean to preach of demean your anger and concerns - we

just need to be careful that our words to do not cause wrong actions of

others.

Thanks,

Sharon

In a message dated 1/23/2011 10:26:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

productionking04@... writes:

I sure wish that the ones responsible for destroying the health of so many

would have to go to jail for a year and make it a moldy one at that where

they spray lots of pesticides and nasty cheap cleaners. Then they would know

what children have to put up with in school every day. It's not like they

don't know what they are doing. Therrefore ai think it is malicious and

should be cocnsidered premeditated assault.

But a pipedream.

Meredith

Sharon Noonan Kramer