my puppy

[Guest guest]

Other than taking my dog to the vet how can i tell if the mold spores are

affecting my dog? after last night i know im going to have to move and because

im not sure where im going to end up i cant take her with me. the perfect

situation would be to see that she ends up in a home where they'll take care of

her the way i would but i dont have any control over that. my g/f wants to keep

the dog but is at work all day long, once she gets off work heads to gym the so

the dog would spend no less than 10 hours locked up in a cage which is just

cruel and i wont allow it. besides if the dog did stay here how do i know her

health wont be affected? i just want whats best for my dog, the last thing i

want to see her do is suffer because of my stupidity.

[Guest guest]

You can observe.  Be very observant.  Changes in skin, eyes, nose, tail

dropping, exhaustion, lessions, check the ears for yeast infection,  eating

habits, tremors, restless sleeping, changes in coat, behavior, change in

breathe,  gum inflamation, they unfortunately lick and their is nothing we can

do about that, why it is so hard to keep them safer. 

kidney function, liver enzyme test, I wish you could just take him/her with

you as the next person may not know what to look for or what even to do.

I know mine are intolerate to pesticides, fragrance.  They loose thier hair,

weight, paralysis,

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 9:56:14 AM

Subject: [] my puppy

Other than taking my dog to the vet how can i tell if the mold spores are

affecting my dog?

[Guest guest]

Does your dog seem sick? I know that's a pretty general question but in

hindsight I now know that my first dog must have been very sick from the mold.

She lost alot of her fur and had rashes, etc. It was very sad, I loved her alot.

I think in general if you are sick and the dog seems sick too it's reasonable to

think they are mold sick.

>

> Other than taking my dog to the vet how can i tell if the mold spores are

affecting my dog? after last night i know im going to have to move and because

im not sure where im going to end up i cant take her with me. the perfect

situation would be to see that she ends up in a home where they'll take care of

her the way i would but i dont have any control over that. my g/f wants to keep

the dog but is at work all day long, once she gets off work heads to gym the so

the dog would spend no less than 10 hours locked up in a cage which is just

cruel and i wont allow it. besides if the dog did stay here how do i know her

health wont be affected? i just want whats best for my dog, the last thing i

want to see her do is suffer because of my stupidity.

>

[Guest guest]

I have had owners who tested the pets (dogs and cats). They have cone a urine

test and the animals were positive.

[] my puppy

Other than taking my dog to the vet how can i tell if the mold spores are

affecting my dog? after last night i know im going to have to move and because

im not sure where im going to end up i cant take her with me. the perfect

situation would be to see that she ends up in a home where they'll take care of

her the way i would but i dont have any control over that. my g/f wants to keep

the dog but is at work all day long, once she gets off work heads to gym the so

the dog would spend no less than 10 hours locked up in a cage which is just

cruel and i wont allow it. besides if the dog did stay here how do i know her

health wont be affected? i just want whats best for my dog, the last thing i

want to see her do is suffer because of my stupidity.

[Guest guest]

I put my nose into my cats furry body to snugle and found she smelled like a

concentration of house odor. House improvemnts made and just a couple weekly

sponge baths, odor went away. I give weekly baking soda sponge bath now w small

amt baby shampoo as an emulsifier and she smells great. Know that doesn't mean

everything is fine but pets shed fur and skin like we shed hair and skin.

Otherwise, can he be kept in a dog house? Is the outside safe for him, fenced

in yard or similar?

Please don't dispose of pets. They aren't things like furniture and fabric and

paper that need to be be gotten rid of. They are victims like you, and like

you, they get brand new fresh skin and fur like you get fresh new skin and hair.

A sofa or book doesn't shed away it's fabric or paper and grow new.

If your live is too complicated to do this, I hope you can find a good home for

him.

[Guest guest]

Sbes only 7 months old and is active as ever. Her appetite is good and according

to the vet is a healthy puppy. The one that I have noticed is she scratches

allot and I'm not sure why as she gets baths with baby shampoo and we take her

to the groomer once a month.

>

> You can observe.  Be very observant.  Changes in skin, eyes, nose, tail

> dropping, exhaustion, lessions, check the ears for yeast infection,  eating

> habits, tremors, restless sleeping, changes in coat, behavior, change in

> breathe,  gum inflamation, they unfortunately lick and their is nothing we

can

> do about that, why it is so hard to keep them safer. 

>

[Guest guest]

Tug, she could be just scratching bites. I think it is getting buggier outside

than it used to be. I can't go out without getting bitten this time of year

..

>

> Sbes only 7 months old and is active as ever. Her appetite is good and

according to the vet is a healthy puppy. The one that I have noticed is she

scratches allot and I'm not sure why as she gets baths with baby shampoo and we

take her to the groomer once a month.

[Guest guest]

or allergies, or....everybody, every animal scratches, try not to worry

about your dog, she sounds healthy! sue v

>Tug, she could be just scratching bites. I think it is getting buggier

>outside than it used to be. I can't go out without getting bitten this

>time of year .

>

>>

>> Sbes only 7 months old and is active as ever. Her appetite is good and

>according to the vet is a healthy puppy. The one that I have noticed is

>she scratches allot and I'm not sure why as she gets baths with baby

>shampoo and we take her to the groomer once a month.

>

>

[Guest guest]

maybe she is allergic to something in the environment.  My scatches too, he

started getting allergies, now both of them sneeze alot.  Maybe she does not

tolerate baby shampoo too drying ??  Have you tried another??  There PH is not

like ours. 

 

A dogs ph can vary depending on the breed from 6.2 to 8.62. Human hair ph ranges

from 5.2 to 6.2 meaning our hair and scalp are more acidic then a dogs. A good

ph level for a dog shampoo would be around 7. The wrong ph balance can cause a

dog to have dry, itchy, flaky skin. Unfortunately a lot of pet owners simply do

not know this and can't figure out why their pouch is always scratching. Most

assume their dog has an allergy to something but a lot of times the shampoos

they are using are the culprit for the skin condition. Diet can also be a factor

in poor skin conditions in dogs as well as allergies, fleas, and other

parasites. Although, as a groomer my first question would be. What have you

washed your dog with lately?

 

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Groomer-Explains-What-PH-Balance-For-Dogs-Really-M\

eans & id=3735685

[Guest guest]

Pet dry skin: I put an conditioner on my cat afterwards...:-) Thanks for the

info on the ph though.

>

> maybe she is allergic to something in the environment.  My scatches too, he

> started getting allergies, now both of them sneeze alot.  Maybe she does not

> tolerate baby shampoo too drying ??  Have you tried another??  There PH is

not

> like ours. 

>  

>

[Guest guest]

My pleasure, I make a steep tea of herbs and spray them condition naturally.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: barb b w <barb1283@...>

Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:21:30 PM

Subject: [] Re: my puppy

 

Pet dry skin: I put an conditioner on my cat afterwards...:-) Thanks for the

info on the ph though.

[Guest guest]

Yes, allergic-my dog became allergic to the foods she was eating. In the end she

ate single ingredient foods like just lamb and sweet potato. Skin irritations

were a large part of her symptoms. Think about your puppy's diet and ask the vet

too.

>

> maybe she is allergic to something in the environment.  My scatches too, he

> started getting allergies, now both of them sneeze alot.  Maybe she does not

> tolerate baby shampoo too drying ??  Have you tried another??  There PH is

not

> like ours. 

>  

>

> A dogs ph can vary depending on the breed from 6.2 to 8.62. Human hair ph

ranges

[Guest guest]

The perspective new owners should be by to pick her up anytime now I wish I

could keep her but deep down inside i know this is the best thing for her.

Thanks for all the replies

>

> Yes, allergic-my dog became allergic to the foods she was eating. In the end

she ate single ingredient foods like just lamb and sweet potato. Skin

irritations were a large part of her symptoms. Think about your puppy's diet and

ask the vet too.

>

[Guest guest]

The new owners just came and picked up my puppy. I knew this was going to hurt

but I had no idea it was going to hurt so much. please make the pain stop

> >

> > Yes, allergic-my dog became allergic to the foods she was eating. In the end

she ate single ingredient foods like just lamb and sweet potato. Skin

irritations were a large part of her symptoms. Think about your puppy's diet and

ask the vet too.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, It is very hard loosing them.  Ask for him/her back.  That you did not

realize the pain it would cause you, you were emtional when you did it and were

not thinking  

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

________________________________

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:59:04 PM

Subject: [] Re: my puppy

 

The new owners just came and picked up my puppy. I knew this was going to hurt

but I had no idea it was going to hurt so much. please make the pain stop

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry, Tug. I'm really glad, though, that you found a nice home for your

puppy. It doesn't stop the hurting, but think of how honorable you were in your

care for him: whatever is true or not true about your situation, you were

suffering, and puppies/animals in general pick up on that. It stresses them and

that alone can make them sick. So whether or not your puppy was sick, you

removed him from a potentially bad situation because you love him. Very selfless

of you. I hope you can take some small comfort in that.

>

> The new owners just came and picked up my puppy. I knew this was going to hurt

but I had no idea it was going to hurt so much. please make the pain stop

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks AN, Im feeling much better about my decision and know that Molly is

playing with her new friend which is also a shitz tzu. She has a loving home but

more importantly she's taken out of an environment that could have caused her to

become ill.

For the longest time I've been seriously questioning my faith but now that I

know Molly is ok and I may have found a safe place to live I believe that my

prayers have been answered and maybe... just maybe I can start my recovery. My

relationship is all but over but I had to make a decision on my health or

staying in place that I didnt know when or even if I'd ever recover.

>

> I'm so sorry, Tug. I'm really glad, though, that you found a nice home for

your puppy. It doesn't stop the hurting, but think of how honorable you were in

your care for him: whatever is true or not true about your situation, you were

suffering, and puppies/animals in general pick up on that. It stresses them and

that alone can make them sick. So whether or not your puppy was sick, you

removed him from a potentially bad situation because you love him. Very selfless

of you. I hope you can take some small comfort in that.

[Guest guest]

So sorry, Tug. I know it is hard and so sad to say goodbye to a friend. And

I do hope you find comfort knowing you found him a loving home where he will

be loved and cared for. Your puppy knows that and thanks you. And you will

be rewarded someday for acting so selflessly in a tough situation. I truly

believe that.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:34 PM, advocate_now <advocate_now@...> wrote:

>

>

> I'm so sorry, Tug. I'm really glad, though, that you found a nice home for

> your puppy. It doesn't stop the hurting, but think of how honorable you were

> in your care for him: whatever is true or not true about your situation, you

> were suffering, and puppies/animals in general pick up on that. It stresses

> them and that alone can make them sick. So whether or not your puppy was

> sick, you removed him from a potentially bad situation because you love him.

> Very selfless of you. I hope you can take some small comfort in that.

>

>

>

> >

> > The new owners just came and picked up my puppy. I knew this was going to

> hurt but I had no idea it was going to hurt so much. please make the pain

> stop

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tug...

What an heroic struggle!  I read your description of your gut-wrenching pain

and

then the slow, but sure rebound of faith when Molly's welfare became more

important than your own.  Thank you, God.  So sorry your relationship has

become

a casualty of this, but I remain convinced we are all being led to something

better through this journey.  I am having setbacks after setbacks, so I

understand where you are.  It's hard, but it's easier with friends who are with

you-- " invisible " but living with the deepest understanding of the challenges

AND

the potential victories that you experience.  We're all sending you AND Molly

prayers and good thoughts!  Sally

________________________________

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 5:39:48 PM

Subject: [] Re: my puppy

 

Thanks AN, Im feeling much better about my decision and know that Molly is

playing with her new friend which is also a shitz tzu. She has a loving home but

[Guest guest]

I got sick from mold first Id lay in bed with pain and just try to

breathe, As this eased I became very sensitive to chemicals or fragrances

Janet

In a message dated 9/2/2010 6:37:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

tug_slug@... writes:

Im sorry Carl that was my mistake and Carl is right I have become somewhat

chemically sensitive. Being fairly new to all this and knowing how mold

effects me its difficult for me to determine whether it's mold that's causing

the problem or a chemical. Beings theres such a strong musty odor coming

from the crawl space I automatically assume it's mold.

I stand corrected

>

> Tug,

>

> I'm going to interject here and will do so without breaking

> confidentiality.

>

> Below you state " my mold exposure " and nothing else. As you have

> previously reported on Sickbuildings it has been demonstrated

> that you are also chemically reactive. It is not just mold.

[Guest guest]

Sally thank you for such a heartfelt post but unfortunately I dont feel the same

way when it comes to being led to something better. My g/f who is extremely

religious and is a deaconess at her church believes that there's a silver lining

in every cloud but I believe there is no silver lining here. Theres not a person

that comes to this forum who hasnt lost nearly everything that they own and had

to start all over again.

Personally I have lost everything I own and as time goes on I keep losing only

now rather than material things such as a pair of shoes or a pair of pants Im

losing things that Im connected to emotionally. Two days ago it was my puppy who

I still miss terribly, tomorrow my mold exposure is more than likely going to

cost me my relationship with my g/f. How much more will me and the the many

others that are suffering from mold exposure have to lose before the clouds

clear and we get a glimpse of that silver lining so many believe in?

>

> Tug...

>

> What an heroic struggle!  I read your description of your gut-wrenching pain

and

> then the slow, but sure rebound of faith when Molly's welfare became more

> important than your own.

[Guest guest]

Tug,

I'm going to interject here and will do so without breaking

confidentiality.

Below you state " my mold exposure " and nothing else. As you have

previously reported on Sickbuildings it has been demonstrated

that you are also chemically reactive. It is not just mold. You

recently reported a new chemical source with the new A/C coil.

You also identified the role of heat in your reactions.

Please consider ALL the other types of exposures and conditions

of your house and not just mold. ALL must be addressed or the

reactivity continues and recovery is prolonged. And it takes time

for the body to heal, which means reactivity can continue even

when the exposures stop. Many require both the stopping of

exposures and the strengthening of the body. It is not a tab A into

slot B experience of one cause and one effect. It is a dynamic

system with complexity which requires an iteration of a defined

sequence with adjustments as new knowledge is generated.

Limiting your responses to just mold is self-defeating if you react

to other things.

For the group who many think I'm not supportive of Dave. I've

repeated many times over the years that accurate information is

required to attain a succesful outcome. If we allow others to

continue into a deadend we are neither loving nor supportive. Our

legitimate concern requires our honest response - but do so

gently and with understanding.

Which is what many of you have done lately with several of us.

Including when you thought I was wrong about something. You

rightly expressed your concern and everyone benefited.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

Sally thank you for such a heartfelt post but unfortunately I dont feel the same

way when it comes to being led to something better. My g/f who is extremely

religious and is a deaconess at her church believes that there's a silver lining

in every cloud but I believe there is no silver lining here. Theres not a person

that comes to this forum who hasnt lost nearly everything that they own and had

to start all over again.

Personally I have lost everything I own and as time goes on I keep losing only

now rather than material things such as a pair of shoes or a pair of pants Im

losing things that Im connected to emotionally. Two days ago it was my puppy who

I still miss terribly, tomorrow my mold exposure is more than likely going to

cost me my relationship with my g/f. How much more will me and the the many

others that are suffering from mold exposure have to lose before the clouds

clear and we get a glimpse of that silver lining so many believe in?

>

> Tug...

>

> What an heroic struggle! I read your description of your gut-wrenching pain

and

> then the slow, but sureÂrebound ofÂfaith when Molly's welfare became more

> important than your own.

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[Guest guest]

Im sorry Carl that was my mistake and Carl is right I have become somewhat

chemically sensitive. Being fairly new to all this and knowing how mold effects

me its difficult for me to determine whether it's mold that's causing the

problem or a chemical. Beings theres such a strong musty odor coming from the

crawl space I automatically assume it's mold.

I stand corrected

>

> Tug,

>

> I'm going to interject here and will do so without breaking

> confidentiality.

>

> Below you state " my mold exposure " and nothing else. As you have

> previously reported on Sickbuildings it has been demonstrated

> that you are also chemically reactive. It is not just mold. You

> recently reported a new chemical source with the new A/C coil.

> You also identified the role of heat in your reactions.

>

> Please consider ALL the other types of exposures and conditions

> of your house and not just mold. ALL must be addressed or the

> reactivity continues and recovery is prolonged. And it takes time

> for the body to heal, which means reactivity can continue even

> when the exposures stop. Many require both the stopping of

> exposures and the strengthening of the body. It is not a tab A into

> slot B experience of one cause and one effect. It is a dynamic

> system with complexity which requires an iteration of a defined

> sequence with adjustments as new knowledge is generated.

> Limiting your responses to just mold is self-defeating if you react

> to other things.

>

> For the group who many think I'm not supportive of Dave. I've

> repeated many times over the years that accurate information is

> required to attain a succesful outcome. If we allow others to

> continue into a deadend we are neither loving nor supportive. Our

> legitimate concern requires our honest response - but do so

> gently and with understanding.

>

> Which is what many of you have done lately with several of us.

> Including when you thought I was wrong about something. You

> rightly expressed your concern and everyone benefited.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tug!  I so completely understand your position and thank you for sharing your

reaction to my post.  I am facing some very real medical and financial

consequences right now, and I don't even have the strength to share them. 

The wounds are raw, so raw that I haven't yet comprehended the impact on my

life.  So, I compartmentalize that; I can't go there now. 

Anyway, I know that this illness demolishes lives.  I never underestimate the

damage that follows exposure after exposure after exposure.  I also try to be

cautious and would never intentionally  impose my belief system on

another.  If

it seemed as if I were, I so apologize, both for that or if my post in any

way

felt dismissive of your pain.  I guess if I force myself to be

brutally honest,

I'm talking to myself, trying to convince myself that  " good " that will come of

this.  What alternative is there, really?  I do know that it has forced me to

fully live in the present.  I don't worry about things that once seemed

important. 

Over the past two years and especially the past seven months, I have discovered

a vital need to focus on--and celebrate--the bare essentials of what it means

to

be a human.  I guess I have to find a strength and a gift in that.  If I

focused

on the damage that has followed my exposure, I fear that I would never want to

get up and face the day.  I choose to focus on what I still have rather than

on

what I've lost.  If I focus on losses, my heart would shrivel and simply sink

into despair.  I don't like experiencing more pain than I have to, so I don't

want to visit despair on a voluntary basis.  

Contrary to results that would come from a logical, " realistic, " line-by-line

tally of recent gains and losses, I must instead focus on the blessings that

the

very act of being alive can offer.  For example, I still can type and connect

with you; I still can breathe; I still can see the ocean; I still can walk--not

very far--but a bit.  I make myself list these every day--even when I don't

want

to--and make a conscious effort to focus on the abundance I have, especially

when I think about so many others who are less able than I.  

I apologize.  While I meant to be loving and reassuring, it seems that instead

I

hit a very raw nerve.  I am sorry if I added any pain.  I love animals and

can

only imagine your pain over losing your Molly, especially in light of the other

losses you've suffered.  I AM SO SORRY.  Just ignore my Pollyanna ways; I

guess

I'm stuck with a personality that innately gravitates

toward wearing rose-colored glasses.  I like the view so much better than

what

could be the alternative.  

Good thoughts and many prayers to you, Tug,

sally

________________________________

From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 2:36:34 PM

Subject: [] Re: my puppy

 

Sally thank you for such a heartfelt post but unfortunately I dont feel the same

way when it comes to being led to something better. My g/f who is extremely

religious and is a deaconess at her church believes that there's a silver lining

in every cloud but

[Guest guest]

Tug,

I am so sorry for your loss, but also I am having a hard time

understanding why you felt that you needed to give up your puppy (but I

haven't been reading every post) as she sounded healthy and happy and

you are doing your best to create a clean environment for man and beast.

I know that the moldrecoveryblogspot family put their pets to sleep

rather than risk cross contamination.

I personally am having trouble understanding why we should give up our

pets and also our people who give us health and happiness benefits....

sue v.

Tug wrote:

How much more will me and the the many others that are suffering from

>mold exposure have to lose before the clouds clear and we get a glimpse

>of that silver lining so many believe in?

>