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Glucan or glycan?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: Beta - Glucan

My doctor has a supplement which contains this. Here is his website:

http://www.natural-immune-system.com/immune-system-booster.html

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>  Anyone take this ??  Where do you get your supplements from ??

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> God Bless !!

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I wouldn't take one from mushrooms, it is a fun guy

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 8:38:57 PM

Subject: [] Re: Beta - Glucan

 

ive wondered about this as well. it also helps stimulate release of stem cells

from bone marrow.. Ive taken before.. different brands have diff fungal sources.

The one I took is from mushrooms. ??

Robin

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But there is mushroom in that one, 2 kinds

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 8:04:26 PM

Subject: [] Re: Beta - Glucan

 

My doctor has a supplement which contains this. Here is his website:

http://www.natural-immune-system.com/immune-system-booster.html

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Do you take this kind, made from the cell wall of the baker's yeast ?

 

 There are several and made different. 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 10:13:35 PM

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Go here:

http://www.natural-immune-system.com/beta-glucan-benefits.html

There are several individual products listed plus he has a link outside of his

website which tells more about it.

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Thank you, but does beta glucan made from the cell wall of the baker's yeast

have an effect on moldies ?  Since the yeast protein is inactive is it safe

for

us ??

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 9:34:29 PM

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An Interview with Jordan, Beta Glucan Expert and U.S. Patent Co-Inventor

in Beta Glucan Research

I have watched Doug Kauffmann for years. (Know the Cause) He has had

Jordan on who has a company called NSC. One of his products is beta glucan. It

helps the immune system. If you google any topic related to beta glucan, you

will get the information above for a more indepth article

Kathi

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Thank you Dr Thrasher as that was the answer I was looking for .  Was it or was

it not safe for moldies and the answer is NO.  I like to ask when in doubt. 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 11:12:05 PM

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I have bit my tongue long enough. 1,3-beta-D-glucan is a cell wall

polysaccharide shed by fungi into the indoor environment. The compound causes

adverse pro-inflammatory response in humans and animals by binding to DEC1 and

DEC2 receptors. There is plenty of information in the literature regarding its

adverse health effects. We even discussed this in the POA paper listed on

ACHEMMIC and Policyholders of America web sites. If you want to take this

potentially dangerous compound that is prepared from fungi and mushrooms it is

your business. Just how pure is the preparation and have all of the exotoxins

and endotoxins associated with fungal cell walls been removed?

Contusing to post this information may well lead one down the wrong path of

treatment.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

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the beta glucans are a polysaccharide, they are not proteins. It is the glucans

that post a potential health problem. I am not at all injured by fungi,

mushroom or yeasts, but I would not take such a product into my body.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

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Thank you, Dr Thrasher. And some think a few stray spores of

" cross-contamination " is the ultimate worry.

This is a perfect example of how easy it is to mis-perceive and mis-proportion

our experience. Consider what we eat or happily ingest as nutritional

supplements (many made from mold) to fight off mold exposure. Even if it has

mold or is made from mold we don't perceive it as a mold exposure unless a " pump

jockey " counts spores on a lab report.

And I'll stop biting my tongue on another recent topic before it too reaches

" urban myth " status: The fact of mold exposure should not be treated as a near

death experience. Nor should one assume all or even most incidents WILL

eventually cause death. A few do but it is extremely rare and should not be

assumed.

Those who have been that severely impacted are those with very long term

exposure to large areas of water damaged buildings and other factors. Stopping

the exposure by whatever means possible is the key. The quicker the better.

If we don't keep proper perspective we risk worrying ourselves to death. If we

don't apply some discrimination we will be guilty of " microbial profiling. "

Which is worse than racial, sexual, or religious profiling because we make

ourselves the (unnecessary) victim.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: Beta - Glucan

I have bit my tongue long enough. 1,3-beta-D-glucan is a cell wall

polysaccharide shed by fungi into the indoor environment. The compound causes

adverse pro-inflammatory response in humans and animals by binding to DEC1 and

DEC2 receptors. There is plenty of information in the literature regarding its

adverse health effects. We even discussed this in the POA paper listed on

ACHEMMIC and Policyholders of America web sites. If you want to take this

potentially dangerous compound that is prepared from fungi and mushrooms it is

your business. Just how pure is the preparation and have all of the exotoxins

and endotoxins associated with fungal cell walls been removed?

Contusing to post this information may well lead one down the wrong path of

treatment.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

Trauma Specialist

sandracrawley@...

916-745-4703 - Off

775-309-3994 - Cell

This message and any attachments forwarded with it is to be considered

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message in error, please reply immediately to advise the sender of the

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I have had enough this. I am not responding to this anymore. They can make all

the claims they want. Where is the proof?

[] Re: Beta - Glucan

Beta Glucan supps claim to modulate thus helping prevent an inappropriate

cytokine response (assuming some cytokine responses are actually healthy) and

autoimmunity.

Healthy foods dont always do the trick for folks with bad digestive issues and

they are hard to find in some locals.

Also beta glucans are not the only supp to help modulate the immune system.

But I hate to throw the baby out with the bath water if beta glucans or any

other yeast based supp can actually be helpful.

Im not clear on the role.. all or nthing all bad? of yeasts (and beta glucans)

with HLA types.

Robin

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> Interesting theory. It is possible. Cytokines and chemokines can cause

elation and/or depression according to the literature. Why stimulate the immune

system anyway? Eat healthy foods, if you can find them with today's genetically

modified agriculture plants.

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