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, you sound very confused and upset. sorry. You have to learn a new way

of living. Dawn should not be used by you, I would avoid canola oil too.

I went threw paper without knowing and became very ill. There is a paper

written about getting sicker quicker upon secondary or more exposures. It

happened to me.

I would suggest you cut out all of your chemicals. Once you eliminate those

maybe you can see what else you are reacting to. As far as the mold exposure I

would think you need testing in order to know if it has affected you, especially

in your lungs. I hate when people say one thing and do another and cause harm,

like in your case. Do you have an EI ?

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Danel <denise.danel@...>

Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 10:30:06 PM

Subject: [] reactions

i posted a week or so ago..

here it is

i have mold toxicity from exposure 2 x ( different houses) have been sick from

it the last 4 1/2 years, recently realized, moved and left all behind, moved to

another state, rented house, had mold guy come first to investigate.

also have mercury toxicity causing me a great deal of physical, neuro sx.

having chemical sensitivities from the mold .

just had a exposure from breathing in airborne dry spores from a job my

landlord

did to remove window trim that had mold on it . the trim was dry, warped

rotten, wood caused from condinsation.

a mold dog hit on it. the landlord said he would plastic off and bring fan to

create neg pressure, didn't bring fan and pulled down plastic when done before

it was vacuumed or blown out.

i went back to see the area, took a fairly deep breath and the reaction was

immed. burning eyes, nose, throat, lungs, my sinus cavity was on fire and the

bones in my face hurt for days, everyday my eyes had goop in them, nose stuffed

up, and deep lung cough, headache. haven't had these mold sx before, except

last exposure burning eye, nose ears and throat, but nothing like this.

that was 10 days ago. my eyes are better, my nose still stuffy and lungs still

hurt and have a dry painful cough.

today i tried the nettle pot with warm distilled water and 1/4 sea salt. my

nose

is much better

will these sx go away, as reaction settles?

inhaling these dry gas toxic spores, have i done further and irreversible

damage?

the airborne spores have probable entered the house. had it vacuumed with hepa

and neg pressure fan, all surfaces wiped with vinegar, wall, floors, furniture(

all furniture removed outside and blown with leaf blower then wiped with

vinegar)

will that get rid of the dry spores?

can i do something else?

can't believe my reaction and stupidity for going back there. this mold sucks

and so hard to get rid of and away from.

any help

denise

things did get a bit better, then we mopped wood floors with vinegar and canola

oil, had a reaction. maybe the oil brought out something in the floors, varnish

or something. had to mop many times with water and dawn to cut the oil. my

daughter moved in a painted bed. last night i tried on some clothes that were

new, but have been hanging in closet for 1 month, horrid reaction, immed stuffy

nose, tight chest, eye burn. today when i woke couldn't breathe, blew nose and

blood. before breathing in the spores or bacteria, i never had this reaction.

even in the moldy house it was headaches, dizziness, gut, nausea, neuro, even

after 2nd exposure, but this has really changed things. even befoe this i went

into a store with my daughter, didn't even have a reaction at all.

i don't think it is mold it is chem sensitivities, voc does this get better? i

am on csm and thought i was doing better but nothing is helping this. will i be

sensitive forever, can anything help this? i have a air pua but not helping.

maybe need one for mold particles and voc. the one i have is air pura uv6 for

paticles and uv for bacteria, but there is another for voc.

am i set up for this for life, any store, people, will i always react this way

now, just inhaling the spores/bac has damaged me. my daughter can and sat next

to me, she had spent the night out and showered at friends with different

shampoo, lotion, and immed i had a stuffy nose. will this inflammation calm

down. do i need nasal spray or rx. i have a mercury problem and the spray has

collidial silver so that is bad, and the mercury has messed with salicylates so

anti fugal are bad gse, coconut oils etc, antibodies bad for yeast. i would

have to have rx anti fugal like nystain compounded b/c of sals for yeast but can

one compound rx for bacteria?

what a mess

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Yes , it would be a good idea for you to wash the clothes when they come

in. Since you are having problems with your lungs maybe an extended HP panel,

Pulmonary Function Tests, Tests for bacterias, I do not know all of which they

do.

Yes EI is Environmental Medicine.

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Danel <denise.danel@...>

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 12:02:38 AM

Subject: Re: [] reactions

i did cut out all chemical, only clean with vinegar, we just put a littlr oil to

shine the floors. dawn was the only thing to cut the oil(used to get oil off of

birds in oil spill)

how does one avoid clothes? do they need to be washed immed upon coming home? i

order online, i am bed bound b/c of all this

what testing does one do for mold exposure?

ei, environmental illness? i don't know, how do i know

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, are you still in the same house that had the botched remediation? The

clothes that are giving you problems, were they in the house when the landlord

was removing the toxins?

>

> i posted a week or so ago..

> here it is

>

> i have mold toxicity from exposure 2 x ( different houses) have been sick from

> it the last 4 1/2 years, recently realized, moved and left all behind, moved

to

> another state, rented house, had mold guy come first to investigate.

>

> also have mercury toxicity causing me a great deal of physical, neuro sx.

>

>

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yes i am in the same house b/c i can't afford to move. jan 1st i paid deposit

and 1st month rent for 1 year. if i move i will lose deposit. ($1300). after he

pulled down the plastic and i breathed in the toxins, we sealed off area. pulled

all furniture outside blow it off with leaf blowers, wash down floors, walls,

windows,lamps everything with vinegar. washed everything. the clothes were here

during that time.

my reactions to chem, voc changed dramatically after that incident. my eye,

ears, nasal, lungs are now super reactive to anything.

going to dr tomorrow to get scripts for csm, and at same time will ask for test,

stool for bac, yeast, mold, parasites in gut, staph in nasal, UTI, and whatever

he wants to do. there s a nasal spray from ITC compound pham for bacterial mold

in sinus from dr talembaum(sp) i hope to try. i feel i have had a low grad bac

infection since this started 4 yr ago but didn't know it was mold.

to complicate things this mercury toxicity is kicking my butt. it has caused

cell wall damage, phenol/salicylate intolerances, sulfur intolerances, sulfation

and methylation pathway problems. the salicylate cause problems with trying to

take anti fungal and anti bacterial remedies for the gut problems, so i will

have to have rx nystatin compounded, along with csm and dmps(for mercury

chelation), t3(the cytomel for reverse thyroid (RT3) caused from the mercury,

has filler that i can't tolerate) i do have a great probiotic from custom

probiotics in ca.

other than the mold on the window i am not sure if there is mold in rest of

house. i took picture and sent to landlord. he came and on the outside of house

he is looking behind wall cavities. there is on place in that back room i

referenced (with the window trim problem) there is a stain on the ceiling and

water was dripping down after a snow. he took down some of the dry wall and has

left it exposed waiting for the mold guy. we have double heavy duty plastic over

doors and window(also with hard plastic shield) with heavy tape, hope it is

enough, and if we brought any dry spores in when walking through, but as i said

he cleaned as well as we could and open window, have box fans running(neg

pressure), air pura, everyday. i only seem to reacted to the things i mentioned,

it isn't everyday, seems to be situational due to cleaning, clothes, again after

i snorted the toxins and really did a number on my body.

that is what i wanted to know. i obviously caused a great inflammation and

wondering if that will go down and will recover from that. i think i am having

some success with csm, or was before this.

denise

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From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 7:44:50 AM

Subject: [] Re: reactions

, are you still in the same house that had the botched remediation? The

clothes that are giving you problems, were they in the house when the landlord

was removing the toxins?

>

> i posted a week or so ago..

> here it is

>

> i have mold toxicity from exposure 2 x ( different houses) have been sick from

> it the last 4 1/2 years, recently realized, moved and left all behind, moved

to

>

> another state, rented house, had mold guy come first to investigate.

>

> also have mercury toxicity causing me a great deal of physical, neuro sx.

>

>

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I can only tell you what others have told me and my experiences with

mold/micotoxins/bacteria and whatever else that I forgot to mention. I was told

that no matter what medications I was taking that it wouldnt be enough and that

I had to remove myself from any contamination that had occured for the meds to

work.

When I was living with my g/f and there was mold in the a/c coils even though I

was taking sporanox, ketoconazole nasal spray, CSM, garlic tablets, vitamin c,

vitamin d and using a dry sauna daily my health continued to deteriorate. Even

after the a/c coils were removed and replaced with new a/c coils it was to late

the damage was done mold spores had been distributed throughout the house by the

hvac and I unfortunately had to move. The good news is there wasn't any mold in

your a/c so it seems there would be a good possibility that whatever

contamination that did occur would be confined to the bedroom in question.

Personally if it were me I'd talk to the landlord and ask him about possibly

letting you out of your lease. Right now Im sure he's not to happy having to rip

out all the walls in search of mold and hiring a mold remediater, he could very

well be having second thoughts on keeping you as a tenant. Under the

circumstances he may be more than happy to let you out of the lease, this is

costing him allot more than what he bargained for.

>

> yes i am in the same house b/c i can't afford to move. jan 1st i paid deposit

> and 1st month rent for 1 year. if i move i will lose deposit. ($1300). after

he

> pulled down the plastic and i breathed in the toxins, we sealed off area.

pulled

> all furniture outside blow it off with leaf blowers, wash down floors, walls,

> windows,lamps

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I really admire how proactive you are. You take such decisive and thorough

action to make things better. I really hope your remediated room will finally

be healthy for you.

You will be able to get better and heal up from the exposure. It just will take

a long time. You seem to have gotten more reactive from your exposure but it's

not permanent. I have been knocked back down so many times and gotten worse so

many times but I always seem to be able to slowly improve again afterwards. You

will too. You sound like you are getting very thorough help from your doctor

and are thinking of everything when you go see him. I wish all the best for

you.

anita

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> This may have been covered before, but since I'm new to the whole thing I

figure this is the best place to start.

>

> I started my Candida Clear yesterday and all was great until lunch. What felt

like really bad bloating/indigestion started and from there progressed to what

felt like a mild case of food poisoning. Food poisoning it self is not an

option, so was just wondering could my reaction have been caused by severe

dieoff. Because I am terrified this morning to take any more of the packs.....

> Any help would be appreciated.

+++Hi Crystal,

I don't recommend taking Candida Clear since it is too hard on people who are

unhealthy since it releases too many toxins at one time.

It definitely caused severe detoxifying reactions, which aren't going to help

you since it is mainly the correct combination of nutrients (diet plus

supplements) on my program that help.

It is better to helps your body become better able to detoxify itself so it can

do it at its own pace, rather than pushing it so hard.

If you haven't already, please read these two important articles so you know

what you need to do and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these 202 wonderful Success Stories by

members of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

All you can do at this point is to taken Epsom salt baths, rest a lot, and allow

enough time for your body to settle down.

The best in health, Bee

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