Re: Low Dose Naltrexone (4.5 mg) helping to raise my MSH?

[Guest guest]

HI,

how else can you get MSH to rise, my sick kid's got very low MSH (13

last time measured), has the multisusceptible and low MSH genes (dreaded

genotype). I don't think he could take LDN because he's on opiate pain

meds.... any ideas??

sue

>I am asking to see if anyone else is taking LDN while also getting your

>MSH (Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone) measured.

>

[Guest guest]

You raise MSH by removing the toxins.  I take LDN for pain and fatigue, not for

raising the MSH.  It does boost your immune system and in some people it stops

the progression of some chronic illnesses

From: sue <svican@...>

Subject: Re: [] Low Dose Naltrexone (4.5 mg) helping to raise my

MSH?

Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:15 AM

HI,

how else can you get MSH to rise, my sick kid's got very low MSH (13

last time measured), has the multisusceptible and low MSH genes (dreaded

genotype). I don't think he could take LDN because he's on opiate pain

meds.... any ideas??

sue

[Guest guest]

>

> " You raise MSH by removing the toxins. "

In my limited understanding of Shoemaker's Biotoxin Theory.......

Stage 5: Low MSH

" Reduced MSH production results in yet another set of problems and symptoms. the

production of melatonin is reduced which results in sleep problems. Endorphin

production is suppressed which leads to chronic and sometimes unusual pain. Lack

of MSH can cause malabsorption or 'leaky gut' which further weakens and

deregulates the immune system. White blood cells eventually lose regulation of

cytokine response so that opportunistic infections may occur or recovery from

infections is slower. " (Source: http://www.biotoxin.info/biochemistry)

However, merely removing the toxins, (again, if my understanding is correct

here), will not raise MSH for approximately 26% of us. We, the dreaded

phenotypes, and double mold genes (my case), will NOT get better without

substantial help. We laymen think increased sun exposure can help raise MSH to

some degree.

________________

So, what LDN does is .........

" Naltrexone (My addition: in low doses - no more than 5mg per day) increases the

body's production of the beta and metenkephalin endorphins and blood tests have

indicated that it can double or even triple the activity of natural killer

cells. " (Source: http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T74565.html#G1429)

Is this increased production in the endorphin stage of MSH production enough to

truly boost MSH in the double mold and dreaded phenotypes?

Parting thought...........

Is there a component of Multiple Sclerosis that is a mold gene or dreaded pheno

that got just TOO MUCH exposure to TOO MUCH bad stuff - mold, toxins,

God-only-knows-what-else? If we see MS as at least partly related to mold

exposure, and LDN is stopping the progession of disease, then if we mold

patients are removing toxins with CSM and other stuff, how much MSH increase

(and therefore true healing) can we get from LDN, especially if we live in moldy

areas?

[Guest guest]

Hi, and my kid has all of those things in that lst paragraph except

perhaps opportunistic infections which I'm not sure about, he does not

have the double or the single mold genes, he has the multisusceptible

and low MSH genes which I understand Dr. Shoemaker calls the dreaded

genotype....he will not go outside, so no sun, has tried blue lite did

nothing...

do you know if you can take LDN if you are on opiate pain killers? sue

>

>

>--- In , a Townsend <kmtown2003@...>

>wrote:

>>

>> " You raise MSH by removing the toxins. "

>

>In my limited understanding of Shoemaker's Biotoxin Theory.......

>Stage 5: Low MSH

>

> " Reduced MSH production results in yet another set of problems and

>symptoms. the production of melatonin is reduced which results in sleep

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

has a website called " Low Dose Naltrexone. " They might be able to answer

your question. Anne

>

> Hi, and my kid has all of those things in that lst paragraph except

> perhaps opportunistic infections which I'm not sure about, he does not

> have the double or the single mold genes, he has the multisusceptible

> and low MSH genes which I understand Dr. Shoemaker calls the dreaded

> genotype....he will not go outside, so no sun, has tried blue lite did

> nothing...

>

> do you know if you can take LDN if you are on opiate pain killers? sue

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >--- In , a Townsend <kmtown2003@>

> >wrote:

> >>

> >> " You raise MSH by removing the toxins. "

> >

> >In my limited understanding of Shoemaker's Biotoxin Theory.......

> >Stage 5: Low MSH

> >

> > " Reduced MSH production results in yet another set of problems and

> >symptoms. the production of melatonin is reduced which results in sleep

> >

>

[Guest guest]

do you know if you can take LDN if you are on opiate pain killers? sue

>

I have seen a schedule for switching on some of the LDN pages and groups. LDN

won't work like it should if the patient is taking opioid pain reducers, but

keep in mind, LDN has reduced pain in a number of mold patients to whom I have

spoken. Switching is possible, but should probably be physician supervised. In

my experience, I had immediate reduction in pain, within the first couple of

days of LDN, but it wasn't necessarily immediate elimination of pain.

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info. can you recommend an LDN page or group with good

info? thanks, sue

>

> do you know if you can take LDN if you are on opiate pain killers? sue

>>

>I have seen a schedule for switching on some of the LDN pages and

>groups. LDN won't work like it should if the patient is taking opioid

>pain reducers, but keep in mind, LDN has reduced pain in a number of

>mold patients to whom I have spoken. Switching is possible, but should