RE: OCD again/socks/Sherry

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Sherry what was the purpose of the OT wanting to put on her socks?

Was it because she walks around the house without them? Let me tell you

our son who is 43 walks around at his residence and our house

barefoot and has done it forever. We have tried slipper socks but that

never worked. Until recently he never wore socks with any shoes. The

last couple months we have been able to get him to wear socks as we have

been treating his dry feet with some special ointment the podiatrist

recommended. His staff was able to get him to put on socks after the

ointment was put on. He surprised us he was wearing the socks. The

last weekend he was home he would put on the socks after the ointment

was put on in the AM, later took them off and put them on again after

the PM ointment and would wear them to bed.

When you said the OT said “she needs to get out of her comfort zone” she

needs to go to some classes on how to work with individuals with

DS/autism. is in her own home and should be comfortable, power

struggles she doesn’t need. No you are not being an over protective

mother and no does not need this anxiety as she is not able to

process why she was being asked to put on the socks.

I am thinking what would I do in this situation? I would talk to the OT

and ask her what she is trying to accomplish with having put on

her socks. Maybe she has some therapy reason but just to get out of her

comfort zone is not a good reason. For I would have to use a

picture schedule to help him to understand why and then that would take

weeks if he ever would understand to get it across to him.

What is your prognosis for your back feeling better, this anxiety can’t

be good for you either.

Louise, Mom to 43, DS, Deaf, ASD, in IL

OCD again

I'd be interested in your feedback on this incident. I have been

seriously laid up (or down) with severe back problems so last week when

our OT showed up I ended up sleeping thru it and letting our PCA handle

it. Apparently had a real meltdown and began hitting herself alot

when the OT attempted to get her to put her socks on. She goes barefoot

all the time and putting socks on, to her, means she is going out...and

they are always followed by putting on shoes. Our PCA tried to explain

this but the OT who is awfully stubborn said " she needs to get out of

her comfort zone " ...in other words put socks on and off just for the

heck of it. (She was also on her 10th day of antibiotics after having

strep so she was not feeling very well- PCA forgot to mention this, and

I forgot to leave a note).

I agree needs to move out of some of her self imposed routines and

we are working on it gradually...-.without many SIBs I might add. My

husband said the OT needed to go in the bathroom and take off her

underwear then put it back on inside out just to get out of her comfort

zone LOL. I'm going to speak to her neuro about this...we've tried luvox

so far for OCD which didn't work for her for some reason and we want to

try a new med asap. We've had so many other medical issues to work on

first. It really is a big problem for her and abrupt changes bring on

severe anxiety and behaviors. This OT shows up once or twice a month so

there is no real consistency factor. I've made her tons of pecs and

materials for showing what activities come next, before videos and

music etc. This has helped alot with all her therapists.

This is what I am wondering...-am I just being an overprotective mom or

does the severe anxiety over doing something ridiculous make sense for

? She can put her shoes and socks on whenever she wants to when we

are going out. Should I wait for her to be on a new med before we try

more radical " change " with her? I guess I'm wondering how damaging is

this anxiety and stress that she feels about being presented with a

totally out of context task that makes no sense to her (or me?)

Sherry (PS is 17 DS/Aut)

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All this " sock " talk has me thinking that Mikey hates wearing his socks --

he can't get them off fast enough. I wonder how common it is amongst our

kids. But my 11 year old (typical kid) doesn't like to wear them either.

Now, on the other hand my mother is always walking around telling other

people to put some socks on because she is cold. I guess were all different,

and

the OT just needs to back off. This is not a big one to get stressed over.

She needs to " walk a mile in 's socks "

I hope your back is getting better.

patty (mom to Mikey)

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Sherry when the people who work with treat her with dignity and

respect and make it fun I can tell she responds to their requests. It

looks like you have come up with some ideas with the fuzzy socks, life

skills, and working with the OT that should satisfy the OT so she can

teach . Good luck and let us know how this saga continues. Louise

Re: OCD again

Thank you!!!! everyone for your input on the " sock " saga. Sometimes I

still start questioning myself when the supposed expert insists that

certain tasks are useful. Obviously I have so much support from you guys

I no longer am doubting myself. I do like the idea of some fuzzy

substitute socks for a trial if it's all that important to the OT...plus

will usually put anything on if we say we are just " trying it

on " ..and it doesn't have to stay on. So there's that too. She's the only

OT left in the area who will come to the house and still work with

someone 's age.

I also came up with some more important " lifeskills " she can work on

with like getting her to be able to turn her CD player on and off

and her DVD player. That is something that would be helpful to us all so

I'm going to suggest that. I guess I have to make sure I'm physically

present for all of these sessions in order to run interference. So many

of the therapists we have had seem to not like kids and I always wonder

why they got into this business. I end up feeling paranoid that noone

likes but then she has behavioral therapists who work with her for

twice as long and they make everything so much fun that she loves it.

You can tell that they have compassion and love for .

Anyway Thanks again for your advice everyone. I read all the posts to my

husband and he was very pleased also. You guys are the best.

Sherry

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In a message dated 6/21/2006 2:40:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

sewshawna@... writes:

nathan only puts on his socks when he gets dressed, he can do it by himself

but he will rip them throughif i leave them on him all day cause he wont wear

his shoes unless we are going somewhere

Maddie is the opposite. LOVES to wear socks and shoes (mostly because

she thinks that means she's going out, like ....but Maddie ALWAYS wants to

go out...it's one of the things she OCD's on). Our problem is that, on a

daily basis, she will put her socks on all day long....and I mean EVERY SOCK

SHE OWNS. And sometimes ALL on one foot!!!!!!!! WHen I wake her in the

morning, she has ALL her socks on, and other clothes as well...especially her

bathing suit. It's a hoot!!!

Donna

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nathan only puts on his socks when he gets dressed, he can do it by himself but

he will rip them throughif i leave them on him all day cause he wont wear his

shoes unless we are going somewhere so he will put his socks and shoes one then

without any probs. Weve also tried those sliper socks and nathan rips them

through too. He wont leaive house slippers on either, but he seems to like his

flip flops for wuick trips in the summer lol shawna

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<<Maddie is the opposite. LOVES to wear socks and shoes (mostly because

she thinks that means she's going out, like ....but Maddie ALWAYS wants to

go out...it's one of the things she OCD's on). Our problem is that, on a

daily basis, she will put her socks on all day long....and I mean EVERY SOCK

SHE OWNS. And sometimes ALL on one foot!!!!!!!! WHen I wake her in the

morning, she has ALL her socks on, and other clothes as well...especially her

bathing suit. It's a hoot!!!

Donna>>

Oh Man!!! This would probably make our OT delirious with joy. (or drive her

right over the edge...which would be much more fun to watch) oooops I didn't say

that. In Florida in our house we all go barefoot all the time unless we're going

out. The second walks in the door the shoes and socks come off. She's so

funny now; after years of trying to teach her to complete a pattern (like red

block, blue block, red block, blue block etc.) we were having absolutely no

success till one day a few months ago she finally got it. Now when she takes

off her shoes and socks, instead of putting the socks in the shoes and putting

them away like she used to she lays them out shoe, sock, shoe, sock. She's a

nut.

Sherry