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there is no test per say....this is reserch only....up to 6 mo. for

results....i donated in the name of science and lyme reserch.

In a message dated 3/2/01 7:24:15 PM, Cslyme@... writes:

<<Hi Cheryle

Where did you have the culture/biopsy sent and what test did they request.

Thanks,

Connie, MI

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personally Tug, with this illness, I've sent a few guy's out the door,some

rather quickly. it kindof boils down to " hey, either you get it or you dont and

even if you dont, you either go by the rules or your outta here " . :) as far as

candida and 3 mold colonies, seems this itself exspecially in the sinuses can

play havoc. did they wash out your sinuses?

> >

> > it's hard. one thing that seems like a very important first steps after

getting out is haveing your sinuses checked out for fungal

balls,cysts,polups,damage,cultures done and sinus washing done.

> > even if you dont fell/think theres any problems there.

> >

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jeanine, Ive been thinking about whether he washed out my sinuses or not and I

really dont remember. What I do remember was when he took the culture, it hurt

like a son of a gun, it definitely brought a tear to my eye... literally.

>

> personally Tug, with this illness, I've sent a few guy's out the door,some

rather quickly. it kindof boils down to " hey, either you get it or you dont and

even if you dont, you either go by the rules or your outta here " . :) as far as

candida and 3 mold colonies, seems this itself exspecially in the sinuses can

play havoc. did they wash out your sinuses?

>

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Tug,OH YES, know that felling.

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> > personally Tug, with this illness, I've sent a few guy's out the door,some

rather quickly. it kindof boils down to " hey, either you get it or you dont and

even if you dont, you either go by the rules or your outta here " . :) as far as

candida and 3 mold colonies, seems this itself exspecially in the sinuses can

play havoc. did they wash out your sinuses?

> >

>

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Tug: Have you been given either systemic or nasal corticosteroids during your

treatment. Two weeks or more of treatment will allow the molds to grow in the

sinus cavities. I agree Candida and molds in the nasal cavity and, particularly

the sinuses, needs to be taken with concern.

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+my allegist dioes a sinus culture

In a message dated 2/10/2010 5:41:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

yingling13@... writes:

How would you go about getting a sinus culture done? Also how would you

cure any molds that may have began growing within the cavity? Is there a time

frame or could they continue to multiply after years of being removed from

the source?

bell

>

> Tug: Have you been given either systemic or nasal corticosteroids during

your treatment. Two weeks or more of treatment will allow the molds to

grow in the sinus cavities. I agree Candida and molds in the nasal cavity and,

particularly the sinuses, needs to be taken with concern.

> Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

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How would you go about getting a sinus culture done? Also how would you cure

any molds that may have began growing within the cavity? Is there a time frame

or could they continue to multiply after years of being removed from the source?

bell

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> Tug: Have you been given either systemic or nasal corticosteroids during your

treatment. Two weeks or more of treatment will allow the molds to grow in the

sinus cavities. I agree Candida and molds in the nasal cavity and, particularly

the sinuses, needs to be taken with concern.

> Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

> Toxicologist/Immunotoxicologist/Fetaltoxicologist

> www.drthrasher.org

> toxicologist1@...

> Off: 916-745-4703

> Cell: 575-937-1150

>

>

> L. Crawley, M.ED., LADC

> Trauma Specialist

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> 916-745-4703 - Off

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bell I went to an ear, nose and throat Dr who knows a considerable amount

about mold and how to treat it. Im sure if you ask around you'll find someone in

your area who knows of a specialist that can help you

>

> How would you go about getting a sinus culture done? Also how would you cure

any molds that may have began growing within the cavity? Is there a time frame

or could they continue to multiply after years of being removed from the source?

>

> bell

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The key is getting the gunk removed from the sinuses. Even though I used a neti

pot daily, I was still unable to remove it. I was treated for both fungal and

bacteria infections in my sinuses. Regardless, I would get well for 2 weeks and

then need to be on yet another antibiotic.

After I left the moldy cabin, I moved to this small town. I started seeing a

country doctor here in town. When I first saw him, I told him I had the

infection for years and nothing worked in curing it. He said, " I will get rid of

it " and that he did. He treated me with a prescription strength guaifenesin

(the same thing as mucus X but the prescription dose and a less expensive

brand). I was also given a strong antibody and cortisone. I know some of you

don't agree with taking antibiotics and cortisone but if one has a bacterial

infection for YEARS; it might be what one needs to get well. In my case, it got

me well. Just always take probotics when on antibiotics.

Anyway, on this aggressive treatment, my sinuses broke loose and you would not

believe what came out! I won't gross anyone out in a detailed description but

it was like my whole brain dropped out of my nose! I am willing to bet it was

the same stuff which had been making me sick for years. I had cat scans and etc

BUT, it was the country doctors x-rays with his old fashion x-ray machine which

showed the infection! The expensive cat scans never showed anything.

Right now I have a little bit of infection. I got a prescription for

antibiotics but I am trying to get rid of it through saline rinses before using

the antibiotic.

I also take allergy shots. I had a great success with them. I had the shots

in the past but they never worked or I was too sensitive to continue them. The

allergy doctor works well with my sensitivities. If the shots get too much for

me, he cuts back on my dosage. I have less sensitivity and few infections

thanks to the shots.

My suggestions if you are going to treat this at home, wash your sinuses and use

guaifenesin. You can get the prepackage of salt and soda but I use plain sea

salt and distill water. I also use the guaifenesin which helps to liquefy the

snot which is stuck in the sinuses. When I rinse it out with the neti pot or the

bottle which my MD gave me, I rinse a few times and then I squirt the water

mixture up my noses and sniff and sniff and sniff! This REALLY gets the saline

solution in the sinus cavities. Then I sit down and blow with all my might.

Usually it comes out.

Don't allow a sinus infection to go on no more than 2 weeks. If you are not

well after 2 weeks, go to the doctor and just get help. An unattended infection

can cause other issues which can be serious. If you feel it is a fungal

infection, go to the doctor. If your doctor does not take you serious, find

another doctor. Keep looking until you find a doctor who will listen and take

your concerns into consideration.

> > How would you go about getting a sinus culture done? Also how would you

cure any molds that may have began growing within the cavity? Is there a time

frame or could they continue to multiply after years of being removed from the

source?

> >

> > bell

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Sinus cultures for mold are usually negative. However, bacteria can be

isolated. You best bet is PCR DNA identification of molds in sinus washings.

If you do culture for molds and bacteria I strongly suggest that the plates for

molds should be cultured for a duration of 8 to 10 weeks, because they can be

very slow in their growth cycle.

I recommend that you have mycotoxin tests performed on early AM nasal

secretions. Get up in the morning and blow and blow. Save the secretions in a

sterile collection cup. You can have your physician order the mycotoxin tests

from RealTime laboratories, Dallas Texas.

The cultures for bacteria should be done on blood agar plates and Gram negative

and Gram positive bacteria be identified. You may will discover the presence of

Actinomycetes (Gram negatives).

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

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www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

Cell: 575-937-1150

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My doctor had a blood culture done for a persistent infection/rash I've had for

two years. It came back negative. I called Quest to see how long they cultured

it, they said 'three days'..lol!

--- In , " Jack Thrasher, Ph.D. " <toxicologist1@...>

wrote:

>

> Sinus cultures for mold are usually negative. However, bacteria can be

isolated. You best bet is PCR DNA identification of molds in sinus washings.

>

> If you do culture for molds and bacteria I strongly suggest that the plates

for molds should be cultured for a duration of 8 to 10 weeks, because they can

be very slow in their growth cycle.

>

> I recommend that you have mycotoxin tests performed on early AM nasal

secretions. Get up in the morning and blow and blow. Save the secretions in a

sterile collection cup. You can have your physician order the mycotoxin tests

from RealTime laboratories, Dallas Texas.

>

> The cultures for bacteria should be done on blood agar plates and Gram

negative and Gram positive bacteria be identified. You may will discover the

presence of Actinomycetes (Gram negatives).

> Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

>

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mine checks for yeast as I have a yeast problem

In a message dated 2/12/2010 1:57:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

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You must have your doctor request the 8 to 10 weeks. If not, 3 days is the

standard. The laboratory is looking for bacteria, not molds.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

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You must have your doctor request the 8 to 10 weeks. If not, 3 days is the

standard. The laboratory is looking for bacteria, not molds.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

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www.drthrasher.org

toxicologist1@...

Off: 916-745-4703

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The yeast will appear in a few days. Molds will take much longer.

Jack-Dwayne: Thrasher, Ph.D.

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