food allergy

August 20, 2000

Interesting. However, that's not totally the case. One can have a food

allergy and not even know it. It does not always display itselfin say hives,

etc..

-Adriel

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> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 03:33:27 -1300

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> To Newjersey,

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> Food allergy is far less frequent than people think.

> Many so-called allergy symptoms are caused by an

> accumulation of toxins in the body by the intake of

> wrong or unbalanced food.

> One example; chicken and potatoes were mentioned.

> Say we ask two persons what they had for lunch and

> they both answer: " chicken and potatoes " .

> But the one ate oven-grilled chicken and a baked

> potato with a knob of butter and the other had a

> chicken leg, passed through batter and deep-fried in

> (often reheated) oil, and a plate of french fries,

> doused liberally with ketchup or mayo.

> Food for thought.

>

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January 16, 2002

Ted,

Try Rita Bettenburg, ND...she's in the Gateway area. But as Tom

used to say, " It's worth the trip. "

Chuck Simpson

January 16, 2002

If you look on the NAET site www.naet.com for practitioners in your area,

you'll find the answer.

DeSiena

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:52:05 -0800 tlf-3@... writes:

> Hi Doc's

> I'm looking for a skilled ND, DC, MD, DO... for food allergy or

> sensitivity testing in the Beaverton, Tigard or west Portland area.

> Can

> any of you help me out with this? I have a patient who appears to

> have

> headaches that are partially responding to foods.

> Thank you,

> Ted

>

> Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP, CSCS

> Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC

> 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road

> Beaverton, Oregon 97008

> ph 503.524.9040

>

April 19, 2003

Anne:

How interesting! It certainly makes sense to me that an

allergy/sensitivity could be causing such major problems. Anything

that is interfering with your digestive system will certainly

compromise your general health and could start a cascade of effects

that lead to joint pain.

Please keep us informed. I think you've shown us all a good example

of why " knee doctors " aren't necessarily the right doctors to see for

knee pain. Could you provide the name & location of your Osteopath?

Maybe some other members of our Group live nearby and would like to

see him/her.

Also, you should probably try to do as much reading/research on this

condition as you can, so when you go back to the doc, you'll be able

to participate in your diagnosis & treatment.

Thanks and good luck,

Doug

P.S. - As a side note, I reduced the amount of bread, pasta, rice and

sweets that I eat dramatically, starting about 10 years ago. I find

I feel much better when I minimize these 'dense carbohydrates' in my

diet. So, if nothing else, you may find that eliminating wheat from

your diet will make you 'feel better' in general.

> I went to the Osteopath yesterday to see if he would pinpoint the

> source of my Chondromalacia in my knees. I have to admit I got

quite

> a suprise. He told me that I had a sensitivity to wheat (and

> possibly an allergy). This has caused distress on my gall bladder

> and liver making digestion difficult. This distress has caused my

> entire skeleton to get misaligned. I am 42 years old and find it

> incredible that I could be finding out I have a food allergy and

> further that it caused my skeleton to be misaligned. I will be

> getting some food testing. But in the meantime, has anyone else

> heard of this possibility? Anne

April 19, 2003

I would take this diagnosis with a grain of salt. Osteopaths aren't MD's. If

you have an allergy to wheat, you would probably have had more dramatic systemic

symptoms by now. Osteopaths and chiropractors will almost always tell you that

your skeleton is misaligned because what they (allegedly) do is realign

skeletons. You're wise to be thinking about getting tested, but I would like to

suggest that you be tested by a MD allergist.

Ann

Food Allergy

I went to the Osteopath yesterday to see if he would pinpoint the

source of my Chondromalacia in my knees. I have to admit I got quite

a suprise. He told me that I had a sensitivity to wheat (and

possibly an allergy). This has caused distress on my gall bladder

and liver making digestion difficult. This distress has caused my

entire skeleton to get misaligned. I am 42 years old and find it

incredible that I could be finding out I have a food allergy and

further that it caused my skeleton to be misaligned. I will be

getting some food testing. But in the meantime, has anyone else

heard of this possibility? Anne

April 19, 2003

I saw a doctor who feels that food allergy/sensitivity plays a major

role in joint pain. The doctor himself has chondromalacia in one

knee, and said it gets worse whenever he eats dairy (to which he is

sensitive).

I had already taken an ELISA (IgG/IgE) test for food allergies, which

showed I was not allergic to any foods. The above doc recommended a

more " sensitive " test - ALCAT. It was quite expensive and showed that

I was sensitive to many of my favorite foods - chicken, turkey,

dairy, eggs, berries, etc.

Later I found a great naturopathic doctor (ND). He is on a faculty of

a natural medicine university here, and is up on the latest research,

etc. He feels the IgG/IgE tests are not reliable. Professors at his

university sent split samples of blood (samples from the same person

at the same time, but sent to the lab under different names) to 3

different IgG/IgE testing labs. All 3 labs returned statistically

significant differences in the results. Some of the labs returned

results that were VERY different (for the same person)! More about

this at http://www.tldp.com/issue/174/IgG%20Food%20Allergy.html

The ALCAT test has some research backing it, but in my case, the

results were not correct. I know this because (under my ND's care), I

went on a strict elimination diet. For several weeks I ate only a

handful of non-allergenic foods (mainly rice, pears, lamb). Usually

after 10 days - 3 weeks on this diet, symptoms improve. In my case,

some of my GI problems resolved, but my knee (and elbow and shoulder)

pain was unchanged. After a few weeks, I added foods back one at a

time. Every 3 days I introduced a new food in a pure form (eg: to

test dairy, I drank milk instead of eating ice cream) and ate large

quantities of it 3 times a day. I showed no sensitivities to eggs,

dairy, etc., which the ALCAT test said I was very sensitive to and

should avoid.

So for me personally, food sensivities do not seem to play a big role

in my joint pain. Mechanics seem to be the major factor. Stretching,

myofascial release and prolonged gentle exercise make an instant

difference in my pain. But for all of you out there, food

sensitivies/allergies are certainly worth looking into. I'm glad I

tried the elimination diet, because now I have a definite answer on

the matter. My advice to you would be to skip the expensive testing,

and instead find a natural medicine doctor to guide you through an

elimination diet. The diet takes some preparation and discipline for

a couple months, but it is the gold standard for diagnosing food

sensitivites. And like Doug said, eliminating problem foods could

make a difference in your health overall.

Sorry this is so long, but I hope it will help some of you.

> > I went to the Osteopath yesterday to see if he would pinpoint the

> > source of my Chondromalacia in my knees. I have to admit I got

> quite

> > a suprise. He told me that I had a sensitivity to wheat (and

> > possibly an allergy). This has caused distress on my gall

bladder

> > and liver making digestion difficult. This distress has caused

my

> > entire skeleton to get misaligned. I am 42 years old and find it

> > incredible that I could be finding out I have a food allergy and

> > further that it caused my skeleton to be misaligned. I will be

> > getting some food testing. But in the meantime, has anyone else

> > heard of this possibility? Anne

April 21, 2003

I live in Massachusetts. Unfortunately I got to see this doctor on an

administrative error. Otherwise I would not have been able to see him. This

doctor is looking to retire and is trying to wind down his business. He did

give me a reference for a doctor and asked to be consulted by this new doctor

before I saw him.

A couple of notes:

1. I have seen 3 different orthopedic surgeons - not one of them looked at my

back. All confirmed the diagnosis of Chondromalacia - but I have 3 different

treatment plans. Only 1 doctor told me that I had rolling arches in my feet

and I needed to wear arch supports. I brought the supports with me and was

tested by the doctor. He confirmed that I needed to wear them.

2. Digestive System - The liver and gall bladder have trouble processing the

following: fried foods (including Mcs and potato chips), artifical

sweeteners, chocolate and coffee. The big item on this list is coffee for

me. He referred me to organic coffee. But if indeed I am allergic to wheat

- this would be huge for me.

3. Glucosamine - He told me that if you are having trouble with your

digestive system you are also not absorbing medicines and supplements

correctly or at 100%. (This includes Glucosamine). He told me that he knew

a patient that this worked on - but it took 1 year to work - but it did work.

At this point, I am being open minded about the Osteopath. It is a new and

different way for me to approach my problem. I will be getting food tested

by an Allergist - my insurance will cover the Allergist but not the

Osteopath.

Will keep you posted.

Anne

November 28, 2004

I would first make sure this " allergist " is a M.D. board-certified allergy

specialist. There are many quacks out there claiming to treat people for

allergies which are often totally bogus. Quackwatch.com has a nice article

on this:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/allergytests.html

This website discusses brewer's yeast. Looks like possible food sources are

beer, Marmite & Vegemite (latter 2 usually not consumed in the U.S., more

often in Australia & Britain).

http://www.diet-and-health.net/Supplements/BrewersYeast.html

This looks like a pretty good food allergy book, with RD co-author:

http://www.foodallergysurvivalguide.com/buy.html

Under $14 on Amazon according to the above site. Hope that helps. I just

did a Goggle search for Brewer's Yeast Food Allergy and checked the first

few sites. Good luck!

Hilleary, MPH, RD

San Diego VA Healthcare System

Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:38:46 -0500

From: " Runkle " <tarunkle@...>

Subject: food allergy

I have a patient who was told by his allergist to avoid products containing

brewers yeast. He's looking for a list of products that contain it. I've

been unable to find anything. I've already checked the Food Allergy Network

and several of the government sites. He knows to avoid malted items, but

was hoping for some type of list to save a little time when he shops. Does

anyone know of any resources, or anyone who specializes in food allergies?

Luckily, he's not a bariatric patient, but we've got so many knowledgeable

people in this group, I was hoping someone could help with this as well.

He's 71 inches and only weighs 119#! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Runkle, MA, RD, LDN

November 28, 2004

Thanks for your response and for taking the

time to check out these references. Yes, he is a local, board-certified

MD. Fortunately, the patient does not experience anaphylaxis, but gets

severe itching from products with brewers yeast, lettuce, beef, dairy, vinegar,

and one or two more items that are escaping me right now. It’s a

really frustrating situation. Our first goal is to prevent further weight

loss. It takes them forever to shop, since they have to check labels for

so many items. That’s why I’m looking for something to make

this a bit easier for them.

I’ll pass along the info about the

book. I’m sure they’ll appreciate it.

Runkle, MA, RD, LDN

Building on Basics

Nutrition Consulting Services, Inc.

From: Hilleary,

M. [mailto:teresa.hilleary@...]

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004

1:54 PM

' '

Subject:

RE: food allergy

I would first make sure this " allergist " is a M.D.

board-certified allergy

specialist. There are many quacks out there

claiming to treat people for

allergies which are often totally bogus.

Quackwatch.com has a nice article

on this:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/allergytests.html

This website discusses brewer's yeast. Looks

like possible food sources are

beer, Marmite & Vegemite (latter 2 usually not

consumed in the U.S.,

more

often in Australia

& Britain).

http://www.diet-and-health.net/Supplements/BrewersYeast.html

This looks like a pretty good food allergy book,

with RD co-author:

http://www.foodallergysurvivalguide.com/buy.html

Under $14 on Amazon according to the above

site. Hope that helps. I just

did a Goggle search for Brewer's Yeast Food

Allergy and checked the first

few sites. Good luck!

Hilleary, MPH, RD

San Diego VA Healthcare System

Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:38:46 -0500

From: " Runkle "

<tarunkle@...>

Subject: food allergy

I have a patient who was told by his allergist to

avoid products containing

brewers yeast. He's looking for a list of

products that contain it. I've

been unable to find anything. I've already

checked the Food Allergy Network

and several of the government sites. He

knows to avoid malted items, but

was hoping for some type of list to save a little

time when he shops. Does

anyone know of any resources, or anyone who

specializes in food allergies?

Luckily, he's not a bariatric patient, but we've

got so many knowledgeable

people in this group, I was hoping someone could

help with this as well.

He's 71 inches and only weighs 119#! Any

help would be greatly appreciated.

Runkle, MA, RD, LDN

December 15, 2007

What are your son's symptoms? My type A 7-yo grandson, who lives with us, has

no respiratory issues, but once or twice a month his digestion seems to stop

completely. The first symptom is headache, inactivity and lack of appetite. It

ends hours later with vomiting up a stomach full of his last couple meals, and

then he's back to normal. It isn't connected to any one food.

Thanks for any thoughts anybody may have. Pat

December 16, 2007

This is how my husbands body complains when he is overworking himself and trying

to 'burn-it-at-both-ends' - he pushes himself too hard and then suddenly his

digestive system plays up and he is sick a day or two, then he's fine again -

not surprising really as most of your immune system is in your gut.

Also, maybe there is a little gut healing needing to be done ?

I don't think there are many these days who wouldn't benefit there.

hth

)

http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/

http://www.canine-health-concern.org.uk/

http://www.animalholistichealth.com/

December 17, 2007

My son's allergies are a pretty classic sinus reaction. Most of the

time he appears okay, but actually his sinuses are in a constant state

of mild inflammation. When he catches a cold, his nose will not heal

long after all other symptoms have gone and has persisted for nearly 2

months. His initial diagnosis was dustmites, but dust-proofing the

house didn't completely solve the problem, so I knew there was more

going on. I'm glad we got the testing, because I couldn't see any

direct food connection either.

I wonder if your grandson's intestines are in a constant state of

inflammation, too? And maybe if he picks up any intestinal flu germs

or parasites, they swell completely shut? Just a thought.

Robin

>

> What are your son's symptoms?

December 17, 2007

linnsmama wrote:

> My son's allergies are a pretty classic sinus reaction. Most of the

> time he appears okay, but actually his sinuses are in a constant state

> of mild inflammation.

Can you teach him to use a neti pot?

Follow the instructions carefully as to how much salt and bi-carb

(baking soda) to use, and use WARM water.

If that is not enough to break the inflammation, you can add a

homeopathic remedy to the water as well. This can vary according to his

infection status:

Most times use nothing except the salt and soda.

But

For example when threatening any infection and the infection is not

established - that's the best time to catch it - and you can put

Aconitum 200C in the water. This can totally abort an upcoming infection.

If it's too late for Aco, and things moved very fast, and there is fever

- use Belladonna 30C.

But if it goes slower and gets thick and sticky mucus - use Kali-bich.

If it is too thick the neti pot won't work - but it's great once you get

it clear enough to use, to keep it clear.

Homeopathic remedy source: Homeopathyovernight.com

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

February 11, 2008

How do you know? Maybe it was being at sea level or climbing in the

mountains or the lack of mold in a hotel room or house??????? Who

knows.

a Carnes

>

> We just got back from Costa Rica. My wife has Fibromyalgia. She could

> function here in the U.S. with a limited diet. But in Costa Rica she

> ate everything with no ill effects. She felt great. We went hiking,

> Horseback riding, somedays went 12 hours a day non stop. I think the

> food in the U.S. is what's making people sick. She has been telling

> people here what she eats to feel better. The one's that listen do

> feel better.

>

February 12, 2008

Perhaps this is evidence there is something in your house that is

causing her problems.

Edgar

On Feb 11, 2008, at 7:48 PM, pilotdad28645 wrote:

> We just got back from Costa Rica. My wife has Fibromyalgia. She could

> function here in the U.S. with a limited diet. But in Costa Rica she

> ate everything with no ill effects. She felt great. We went hiking,

> Horseback riding, somedays went 12 hours a day non stop. I think the

> food in the U.S. is what's making people sick. She has been telling

> people here what she eats to feel better. The one's that listen do

> feel better.

>

February 12, 2008

>

> We just got back from Costa Rica. My wife has Fibromyalgia. She could

> function here in the U.S. with a limited diet. But in Costa Rica she

> ate everything with no ill effects. She felt great. We went hiking,

> Horseback riding, somedays went 12 hours a day non stop. I think the

> food in the U.S. is what's making people sick. She has been telling

> people here what she eats to feel better. The one's that listen do

> feel better.

>

My son had the same type of experience when he went to Ecuador. For him

it was a corn allergy. It is in EVERYTHING. High fructose corn syrup

is in bread, soup, lunch meats, juices, etc. And if it is not that, it

is dextrose, maltodextrin, corn starch. In South America they use

mostly sugar not corn syrup.

Best,

February 12, 2008

While many with CFS may be afllicted w/ food allergies I think it would do a

disservice to say everyone w/ CFS has food allergies.

We cook food from scratch. No corn syrup in our bread or vegetables or fruits.

I'm pretty sure my CFS was infectious disease caused, since the antibiotics

lowered the tirters and considerably reduced the symptoms.

But it is a good point to consider, that there are those out there that may in

fact be sick because of allergies. That proves there is not just a single

cause for what ails us.

Diane in MI

Re: Food allergy

>

> We just got back from Costa Rica. My wife has Fibromyalgia. She could

> function here in the U.S. with a limited diet. But in Costa Rica she

> ate everything with no ill effects. She felt great. We went hiking,

> Horseback riding, somedays went 12 hours a day non stop. I think the

> food in the U.S. is what's making people sick. She has been telling

> people here what she eats to feel better. The one's that listen do

> feel better.

>

My son had the same type of experience when he went to Ecuador. For him

it was a corn allergy. It is in EVERYTHING. High fructose corn syrup

is in bread, soup, lunch meats, juices, etc. And if it is not that, it

is dextrose, maltodextrin, corn starch. In South America they use

mostly sugar not corn syrup.

Best,

February 12, 2008

Could you explain further? Did your wife eat only completely

unprocessed foods in Costa Rica? Did she eat only fruits and vegetables

(unprocessed) or did she eat grains (usually processed by grinding, etc.)?

What does she eat in the US? What is she unable to eat in the US?

pilotdad28645 wrote:

>

> We just got back from Costa Rica. My wife has Fibromyalgia. She could

> function here in the U.S. with a limited diet. But in Costa Rica she

> ate everything with no ill effects. She felt great. We went hiking,

> Horseback riding, somedays went 12 hours a day non stop. I think the

> food in the U.S. is what's making people sick. She has been telling

> people here what she eats to feel better. The one's that listen do

> feel better.

>

February 12, 2008

I went away for two weeks over Christmas, and seemed to get well

miraculously.! My CFS, of 4 years, lifted off and I was able to take a horse

for a 2.5 hr beach ride, give children piggy backs for an afternoon, go for

a 6 mile walk and take a child out for a pony ride, with me running along

beside her, like the 37 year old, I am supposed to be! I thought I was

better, and started to re-plan my life (so naive!), but within a week of

being home again, I was back on my knees with fatigue.I am on a very

restricted diet, maintained it while I was away and continued to do so when

I got home from my holidays. I couldn't believe that I got sick again! Sooo

frustrated. But now I am investigating the " mould connection " , and at least

it has given me something to focus on, something to hope for again. I agree

that processed food, and additives, and food intolerances, may be a big part

of our picture. But I bet there are other bits of our individual jigsaw

puzzles that we have just not found yet.

Best of luck to us all, on our individual journeys to recovery.

Tansy

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February 12, 2008

The mold connection turned out to be a huge thing for me. As it turned out,

there was mold growth in between the walls and under my floors. I started

noticing how much better I felt when we left the house for a few weeks, and in

particular, how GREAT I felt in the high desert.

Noticing these things, and noticing how I react to mold presence (brain

compression, depression, headache, flattened with energy loss), I've been

learning to " notice " when I seem to be in the presence of mold, and thereby

avoiding it. For instance, there are certain stores that I no longer visit

because I start feeling the brain compression within minutes of entry.

There is some really good conversation about the mold factor at this message

board for those who think this may be a factor:

http://cfsunited.proboards104.com/index.cgi

Tansy Edgerton <t4tansy@...> wrote: