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Dawn,

I have heard of kids really getting attached to their band/helmet.

There was even a member who had a banded son and the sibling who

envied it so much had to have one too (she substituted with a bike

helmet). As far as correction goes yes, it is conceivable you could

see some changes just after a few days. The head changes every moment

in ways we can't even see. Especially an active band that puts gentle

pressure to direct growth. That and may have even encountered

a healthy growth spurt to top if all off.

Crista-Grayslake, IL

Mom to -11 mo old brachy DOCgrad

-- In Plagiocephaly , " beanshome22 " <beanshome22@y...>

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> Am I just imagining it or is it possible to see a differnce after

> only 4 days of band wear? got his DOC band on Thursday and

I

> swear I already see an improvement. Is it wishful thinking? I

even

> had to leave the band off on Friday night because he had a fever.

>

> Also, do any of your kids feel more comfortable with the band on?

> will fuss when we take it off now. Weird, huh?

>

> Dawn

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I don't know your child's age, but several members have said they saw

differences within a week. I doubt it's wishful thinking. Makes you

realize why people become so pro-helmet once their baby has had one!

My son saw results in 3 weeks, and he was an older baby.

He gets his helmet off later today. I really don't know how I am

going to deal with it. He fusses every single time I clean it because

he wants it back. I clean it while he's in the tub and he knows he

doesn't get it in the tub. After that I have to distract him like

crazy while he and it both dry! Once he graduates I'm in trouble! I

have a bike helmet at the ready. Cross your fingers for us!

, 21 mos, GRADUATING TODAY!!!!!

> Am I just imagining it or is it possible to see a differnce after

> only 4 days of band wear? got his DOC band on Thursday and

I

> swear I already see an improvement. Is it wishful thinking? I

even

> had to leave the band off on Friday night because he had a fever.

>

> Also, do any of your kids feel more comfortable with the band on?

> will fuss when we take it off now. Weird, huh?

>

> Dawn

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Hello Dawn

It is possible to see changes in only a few days. Willow my daughter

had a major growth spurt the first wk in her helmet, and we thought

we were imagining it as well, but needing an adjustment after a Wk

told us we were right.

Sandy Willow's Mom

Torticollis resolved

Cranio Germany Grad

> Am I just imagining it or is it possible to see a differnce after

> only 4 days of band wear? got his DOC band on Thursday and

I

> swear I already see an improvement. Is it wishful thinking? I

even

> had to leave the band off on Friday night because he had a fever.

>

> Also, do any of your kids feel more comfortable with the band on?

> will fuss when we take it off now. Weird, huh?

>

> Dawn

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It's most definitely possible to see a difference so fast. I posted

this very same question 1.5 weeks ago. I noticed such a huge

difference in McKenna's head in one week. I even took pictures to

see if I was imagining things (They're under the " McKenna " album.)

McKenna has been in her helmet for just over 2 weeks and the

difference is amazing. I'm not the only one to notice, so I know it

isn't in my head.

It just reaffirms I did the right thing by putting her in a helmet.

Also, McKenna doesn't really feel better with the helmet on (I DO

lol cause she's just now cruising) but she doesn't mind it on in the

least.

Congrats on the great results.

Tami and McKenna

STARband 8/23 at 10 months

> > Am I just imagining it or is it possible to see a differnce

after

> > only 4 days of band wear? got his DOC band on Thursday

and

> I

> > swear I already see an improvement. Is it wishful thinking? I

> even

> > had to leave the band off on Friday night because he had a fever.

> >

> > Also, do any of your kids feel more comfortable with the band

on?

> > will fuss when we take it off now. Weird, huh?

> >

> > Dawn

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You are right, Evie. Duncan has never explicity said that inulin is

all you need to cure candidiasis, but he has implied it in numerous

posts. It's almost as though he doesn't want us to know that there

are other ways of recovering from candidiasis other than by

using " his " inulin. That is not only my observation, but many others

that have privately corresponded with me. In my opinion this is

very " FDA-ish, " if you will, and to many, it appears self-serving.

He rarely mentions the rest of the protocols needed to beat candida.

He also tends to imply that lack of sufficient inulin in the diet is

THE cause of GI dysbiosis allowing candida to set in. This is, of

course, inaccurate as most of us are here because of antibiotic usage

and the detrimental effect it had on our good flora. Antibiotics,

stress, and poor diet(too many carbs/sugars and too many acidic foods)

are the main causes of candidiasis, not just lack of inulin. Don't

get me wrong, I do believe that inulin is a good supplement to

introduce in order to feed the flora currently present and allowing it

to thrive, but without introducing more good flora through probiotics

of one form or another in order to try to " outcompete " the candida as

it once did, the remaining surviving good flora will have a snowball's

chance in hell of ever taking control of our intestines again as

candida already has a foothold and is not going to let go no matter

how much inulin you're using, especially if the candida has gone

systemic.

Ken

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> That 's group of people that he speaks so frequently of had very

<BR>

> little success with inulin because they used it as the

& quot;cure & quot; and not <BR>

> a part of a whole system, nutritional change? We know people do it

all <BR>

> the time, why are we blaming inulin? To my knowledge Duncan has not

<BR>

> said, & quot;ALL you need to do is take inulin... & quot; <BR>

> <BR>

> I haven't taken inulin, I haven't researched it, I'm not promoting

it. <BR>

> Just reading between the lines. <BR>

> <BR>

> Evie<BR>

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Ken-

i agree with much of your post, i would add that a clogged up liver

(which can result from drugs, antibiotics, diet and/or stress) is for

many a huge impediment to recovering from candida overgrowth. flush

your liver clean and you have taken a giant step towards rebuilding

your digestive strength and recovering. until the liver is clean and

working well, relapse is almost inevitable.

john g

> You are right, Evie. Duncan has never explicity said that inulin

is

> all you need to cure candidiasis, but he has implied it in numerous

> posts. It's almost as though he doesn't want us to know that there

> are other ways of recovering from candidiasis other than by

> using " his " inulin. That is not only my observation, but many

others

> that have privately corresponded with me. In my opinion this is

> very " FDA-ish, " if you will, and to many, it appears self-serving.

> He rarely mentions the rest of the protocols needed to beat

candida.

> He also tends to imply that lack of sufficient inulin in the diet

is

> THE cause of GI dysbiosis allowing candida to set in. This is, of

> course, inaccurate as most of us are here because of antibiotic

usage

> and the detrimental effect it had on our good flora. Antibiotics,

> stress, and poor diet(too many carbs/sugars and too many acidic

foods)

> are the main causes of candidiasis, not just lack of inulin. Don't

> get me wrong, I do believe that inulin is a good supplement to

> introduce in order to feed the flora currently present and allowing

it

> to thrive, but without introducing more good flora through

probiotics

> of one form or another in order to try to " outcompete " the candida

as

> it once did, the remaining surviving good flora will have a

snowball's

> chance in hell of ever taking control of our intestines again as

> candida already has a foothold and is not going to let go no matter

> how much inulin you're using, especially if the candida has gone

> systemic.

> Ken

>

> > <html><body>

> >

> >

> > <tt>

> > That 's group of people that he speaks so frequently of had

very

> <BR>

> > little success with inulin because they used it as the

> & quot;cure & quot; and not <BR>

> > a part of a whole system, nutritional change? We know people do

it

> all <BR>

> > the time, why are we blaming inulin? To my knowledge Duncan has

not

> <BR>

> > said, & quot;ALL you need to do is take inulin... & quot; <BR>

> > <BR>

> > I haven't taken inulin, I haven't researched it, I'm not

promoting

> it. <BR>

> > Just reading between the lines. <BR>

> > <BR>

> > Evie<BR>

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> That 's group of people that he speaks so frequently of had very

> little success with inulin because they used it as the " cure " and not

> a part of a whole system, nutritional change? We know people do it all

> the time, why are we blaming inulin? To my knowledge Duncan has not

> said, " ALL you need to do is take inulin... "

>

> I haven't taken inulin, I haven't researched it, I'm not promoting it.

> Just reading between the lines.

>

> Evie

Evie, if some people on G's other group used the cheap native

inulin suggested would be a better deal, it's no wonder at all

sm professed mixed results; this wuld be due to the FOS and sugar it

contains. Maybe some of 's readers even used FOS thinking it was

inulin because of the confusing way the SCD zealots roll out their

" data " . He did write thast most of the people on the other group only

laughed and speculated that it might not do anything. That response

suggests an ignorance equivalent to 's own.

Duncan Crow

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> also tends to imply that lack of sufficient inulin in the diet is THE

> cause of GI dysbiosis allowing candida to set in. This is, of course,

> inaccurate as most of us are here because of antibiotic usage and the

> detrimental effect it had on our good flora. Antibiotics, stress, and

> poor diet(too many carbs/sugars and too many acidic foods) are the

> main causes of candidiasis, not just lack of inulin.

Ken, Inulin, even native inulin, has stopped antibiotic associated

diarrhea (AAD). Curing AAD with inulin leads to my view that the AAD

would not have arisen in the first place if the inulin had already

been in the diet in enough quantity to avoid the dysbiosis. I suggest

the good flora population is robust enough to resist stress, and I

agree that dietary matters are key.

> Don't get me

> wrong, I do believe that inulin is a good supplement to introduce in

> order to feed the flora currently present and allowing it to thrive,

> but without introducing more good flora through probiotics of one form

> or another in order to try to " outcompete " the candida as it once did,

> the remaining surviving good flora will have a snowball's chance in

> hell of ever taking control of our intestines again as candida already

> has a foothold and is not going to let go no matter how much inulin

> you're using, especially if the candida has gone systemic. Ken

It's actually the " thriving " actively fermenting, replicating

probiotic populations that outcompete pathogens in the bowel. Nt

feeding the probiotic is the reason probiotics only work while you're

taking them. In other words, people with a low inulin diet find that

when they withdraw the probiotic the symptoms return in a couple of

days.

Your point about systemic is well taken, but because candida doesn't

use inulin to a significant degree, the probiotic organisms in the

gut have an excellent chance of using it whether or not you add more

probiotic starter culture to the diet. Incidentally, research

indicates that a synbiotic might work faster than either prebiotic or

probiotic alone, and I agree with that; I just pointed out that using

a prbiotic to make a synbiotic adds unnecessary cost to the program.

Inulin is cheap for what it does on its own.

Duncan

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Duncan-

those people who reported negative results were on this list and

purchased the inulin from you. and by the way, your product is no

appears no different than dozens of others on the market. classic

salesman's hype to claim otherwise.

g

> > That 's group of people that he speaks so frequently of had

very

> > little success with inulin because they used it as the " cure " and

not

> > a part of a whole system, nutritional change? We know people do

it all

> > the time, why are we blaming inulin? To my knowledge Duncan has

not

> > said, " ALL you need to do is take inulin... "

> >

> > I haven't taken inulin, I haven't researched it, I'm not

promoting it.

> > Just reading between the lines.

> >

> > Evie

>

> Evie, if some people on G's other group used the cheap native

> inulin suggested would be a better deal, it's no wonder at all

> sm professed mixed results; this wuld be due to the FOS and sugar

it

> contains. Maybe some of 's readers even used FOS thinking it

was

> inulin because of the confusing way the SCD zealots roll out their

> " data " . He did write thast most of the people on the other group

only

> laughed and speculated that it might not do anything. That response

> suggests an ignorance equivalent to 's own.

>

> Duncan Crow

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> those people who reported negative results were on this list and

> purchased the inulin from you. and by the way, your product is no

> appears no different than dozens of others on the market. classic

> salesman's hype to claim otherwise.

>

> g

Hi ...

I'm curious about your group -- the one Duncan referred to. Is it a

candida group?

And are there any inulin distributors you recommend?

Thanks,

Bill

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> Duncan-

>

> those people who reported negative results were on this list and

> purchased the inulin from you. and by the way, your product is no

> appears no different than dozens of others on the market. classic

> salesman's hype to claim otherwise.

>

> g

>

>

>

>

>> > That 's group of people that he speaks so frequently of had

> very

>> > little success with inulin because they used it as the " cure " and

> not

>> > a part of a whole system, nutritional change? We know people do

> it all

>> > the time, why are we blaming inulin? To my knowledge Duncan has

> not

>> > said, " ALL you need to do is take inulin... "

>> >

>> > I haven't taken inulin, I haven't researched it, I'm not

> promoting it.

>> > Just reading between the lines.

>> >

>> > Evie

>>

>> Evie, if some people on G's other group used the cheap native

>> inulin suggested would be a better deal, it's no wonder at all

>> sm professed mixed results; this wuld be due to the FOS and sugar

> it

>> contains. Maybe some of 's readers even used FOS thinking it

> was

>> inulin because of the confusing way the SCD zealots roll out their

>> " data " . He did write thast most of the people on the other group

> only

>> laughed and speculated that it might not do anything. That response

>> suggests an ignorance equivalent to 's own.

>>

>> Duncan Crow

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> ...by the way, your product is no

> appears no different than dozens of others on the market. classic

> salesman's hype to claim otherwise.

>

> g

G, all the inulins will appear the same to you until you inform

yourself of the difference between " native " and " sugar-free, FOS

free " inulins.

I'll explain it again -- the long chain inulins appeal to fewer

organisms because they don't produce the enzymes to use longer

chains. This is in the first few paragraphs of the data you won't

read, dude ;) and I keep referring you to -- reading A Comprehensive

Scientific Review on my website would do you good.

Here's the crucial tidbit: native inulin has a degree of

polymerisation of 9 (DP 9); the product I have here is DP 23. This is

a big difference to a bacteria that only has enzymes to break the DP

of 4 or less.

All the retail sources of inulin sell " native " inulin DP 9 but one I

know of that sells " sugar-free, FOS free inulin " . I 'm told it's

twice the price of my DP 23.

Clear as mud ? Please read the data, go away and have a nice

life.

Duncan

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Bill-

there really isn't another group. this all goes back, during the past

few years the subject of inulin comes up again and again as people

move through this group. if you search through the archives its

all there. Personally the only inulin i would recommend would come in

the form of real whole foods. if you google " inulin foods " you will

find a long list of many healthy foods that contain inulin in its

natural state balenced together with other vital nutrients.

there are other candida forums, a really good one at www.curezone.com,

where sales pitches are usually shown the door.

g

> >> > That 's group of people that he speaks so frequently of had

> > very

> >> > little success with inulin because they used it as the " cure " and

> > not

> >> > a part of a whole system, nutritional change? We know people do

> > it all

> >> > the time, why are we blaming inulin? To my knowledge Duncan has

> > not

> >> > said, " ALL you need to do is take inulin... "

> >> >

> >> > I haven't taken inulin, I haven't researched it, I'm not

> > promoting it.

> >> > Just reading between the lines.

> >> >

> >> > Evie

> >>

> >> Evie, if some people on G's other group used the cheap native

> >> inulin suggested would be a better deal, it's no wonder at all

> >> sm professed mixed results; this wuld be due to the FOS and sugar

> > it

> >> contains. Maybe some of 's readers even used FOS thinking it

> > was

> >> inulin because of the confusing way the SCD zealots roll out their

> >> " data " . He did write thast most of the people on the other group

> > only

> >> laughed and speculated that it might not do anything. That response

> >> suggests an ignorance equivalent to 's own.

> >>

> >> Duncan Crow

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Duncan.

save your sales pitch. unless inulin is in a food, i'm really not

interested. if you were really here to help people, who not post a

recommended candida protocal here in the files section or in your web

page? or write a book for a reasonable price? why hide the ball? in

the past you were foreced to admit that you believe liverflushing very

helpful for candida, but admitted that you never mention it because

its so well known. well after spending just a few days back here, its

obvious that you are not sharing the well know beneficial methods used

by people to rid themselves of candida overgrowth again. so how about

it... where is your protocal? why insinuate that your products will

do the job when you know there are cheaper, better ways to do it, that

even you in past were forced to acknowlege.

i'm not about to waste my time debating a whose inulin product is

superior when there is no proof either way and I disagree with the

very idea inulin. if someone wants to buy inulin they are perfectly

capable of doing a google search... and in fact, i would recommend it

as numerous companies sell it, at a much lower price than you.

john g

> > ...by the way, your product is no

> > appears no different than dozens of others on the market. classic

> > salesman's hype to claim otherwise.

> >

> > g

>

> G, all the inulins will appear the same to you until you inform

> yourself of the difference between " native " and " sugar-free, FOS

> free " inulins.

>

> I'll explain it again -- the long chain inulins appeal to fewer

> organisms because they don't produce the enzymes to use longer

> chains. This is in the first few paragraphs of the data you won't

> read, dude ;) and I keep referring you to -- reading A Comprehensive

> Scientific Review on my website would do you good.

>

> Here's the crucial tidbit: native inulin has a degree of

> polymerisation of 9 (DP 9); the product I have here is DP 23. This is

> a big difference to a bacteria that only has enzymes to break the DP

> of 4 or less.

>

> All the retail sources of inulin sell " native " inulin DP 9 but one I

> know of that sells " sugar-free, FOS free inulin " . I 'm told it's

> twice the price of my DP 23.

>

> Clear as mud ? Please read the data, go away and have a nice

> life.

>

> Duncan

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Im sure I already know the answer to the question but out of desperation I had

to ask.

My girlfriend is buying a house and wants me to move in with her, the problem is

when we lived together in my contaminated condo and were forced out she took her

clothes back to her old residence and cross contaminated the rest of her

belongings. Now that she's sold her house she stored everything in a 16 foot

pod.

I was thinking/hoping/praying that I could hire a mold remediation company to

come in and hepa vacuum and wipe everything down with a germicide. Once they

complete the job we plan on putting the few things she owns outside in the sun

for a couple of days at which time I would wipe them down again.

The only furniture she has to speak of is her bedroom furniture (minus the

mattress), she has a chase lounger and a love seat but she plans on giving love

seat away.

My question is has anyone ever been successful in attempting something of this

nature?

Im currently taking Duflican ketoconazole and glutathione nasal spray and

getting IV's drips that consist of a Myers cocktail, Vitamin C and glutathione.

Unfortunately due to cost the IV's will have to be discontinued at the end of

April.

Thank you

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I have tried rescue to no avail.  I will never attempt salvage again.   Maybe

someone els has had success.

We do not even have a bed.  It has been a miserabbly cold winter that seemed to

never end.

 Dragonfly ... Breaks illusions, Brings visions of power, No need to prove it,

Now is the hour! Know it, believe it, Great Spirit intercedes, Feeding you,

blessing you, Filling all your needs. By DCarson JSams

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 12:29:13 PM

Subject: [] Is it possible?

 

Im sure I already know the answer to the question but out of desperation I had

to ask.

My girlfriend is buying a house and wants me to move in with her, the problem is

when we lived together in my contaminated condo and were forced out she took her

clothes back to her old residence and cross contaminated the rest of her

belongings. Now that she's sold her house she stored everything in a 16 foot

pod.

I was thinking/hoping/ praying that I could hire a mold remediation company to

come in and hepa vacuum and wipe everything down with a germicide. Once they

complete the job we plan on putting the few things she owns outside in the sun

for a couple of days at which time I would wipe them down again.

The only furniture she has to speak of is her bedroom furniture (minus the

mattress), she has a chase lounger and a love seat but she plans on giving love

seat away.

My question is has anyone ever been successful in attempting something of this

nature?

Im currently taking Duflican ketoconazole and glutathione nasal spray and

getting IV's drips that consist of a Myers cocktail, Vitamin C and glutathione.

Unfortunately due to cost the IV's will have to be discontinued at the end of

April.

Thank you

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I would like to add that my mold exposure lasted 6 weeks and consisted of

aspergillus, penicillium and yeast. For at least 2 of those 6 weeks the mold

remediater installed an industrial hepa air scrubber which did help with my

symptoms.

>

> Im sure I already know the answer to the question but out of desperation I had

to ask.

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I've had some success salvaging some clothes but not many. My GF brings her

clothes over in a plastic bag on the day that I do laundry so we can spend the

weekend together. Once they're washed and dried I hang them up in the hotel room

and fortunately they don't seem to bother me.

I agree that this winter has been a brutal one. Three days ago it reached 81

degree today like most days it hasnt gone above freeing.

>

> I have tried rescue to no avail. I will never attempt salvage again. Â

Maybe someone els has had success.

> We do not even have a bed. It has been a miserabbly cold winter that seemed

to never end.

>

> Â Dragonfly ... Breaks illusions, Brings visions of power, No need to prove

it, Now is the hour! Know it, believe it, Great Spirit intercedes, Feeding you,

blessing you, Filling all your needs. By DCarson JSams

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

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Nothing wrong with asking.  My attempt was minimal, rather tahn try a lot of

things and it did not work.   That was my first exposure.   The second I

threw out mostly everything except for a few pieces of clothes that were always

disinfected and stored never out in the air.  If it sat out I could tell right

away and disposed of it.  Rather not take chances any more. 

My first exposure several years.

  

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 1:19:28 PM

Subject: [] Re: Is it possible?

 

I would like to add that my mold exposure lasted 6 weeks and consisted of

aspergillus, penicillium and yeast. For at least 2 of those 6 weeks the mold

remediater installed an industrial hepa air scrubber which did help with my

symptoms.

>

> Im sure I already know the answer to the question but out of desperation I had

to ask.

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I am supposed to be in a tropical area and it has been 20, 30, it even dipped to

the teens............they do not even sell coats here but last year and this

year the changes have been drastic.  It used to be like this for 2 or 3 days

but it been for months...............

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: Tug <tug_slug@...>

Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 3:19:18 PM

Subject: [] Re: Is it possible?

 

I've had some success salvaging some clothes but not many. My GF brings her

clothes over in a plastic bag on the day that I do laundry so we can spend the

weekend together. Once they're washed and dried I hang them up in the hotel room

and fortunately they don't seem to bother me.

I agree that this winter has been a brutal one. Three days ago it reached 81

degree today like most days it hasnt gone above freeing.

>

> I have tried rescue to no avail. I will never attempt salvage again. Â

Maybe someone els has had success.

> We do not even have a bed. It has been a miserabbly cold winter that seemed

to never end.

>

> Â Dragonfly ... Breaks illusions, Brings visions of power, No need to prove

it, Now is the hour! Know it, believe it, Great Spirit intercedes, Feeding you,

blessing you, Filling all your needs. By DCarson JSams

>

> God Bless !!

> dragonflymcs

> Mayleen

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