Re: Interested in other people's experiences at Dr. Rea's Dallas Clinic

[Guest guest]

Can you suggest using your own pen that you acquired yourself?

Can you suggest they use a towel to hold his arm so there's less likely

their hands will be actually touching him?

A thought on the sauna - since the whole point of a sauna is to release the

toxins, what's the likelihood he'll be taking in new toxins when his body is

set to release his toxins? Just some possible ideas you can bounce

around...

[Guest guest]

thanks for your ideas! sue

>Can you suggest using your own pen that you acquired yourself?

>Can you suggest they use a towel to hold his arm so there's less likely

>their hands will be actually touching him?

>

>A thought on the sauna - since the whole point of a sauna is to release the

>toxins, what's the likelihood he'll be taking in new toxins when his body is

>set to release his toxins? Just some possible ideas you can bounce

>around...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue V: I have a few things I would like to say about Dr. Reas allergy testing

and sauna. Unless the method has changed since I was there...

1. The only thing that touches the bottle of disinfectant is a clean cotton

ball. It is NEVER reused after wiping the patients arm clean, it is then

discarded and a new cotton ball is used EACH time.

2. The pen circles the wheel and is nowhere near blood and when they use it on

another patient their arm is cleaned again with the disinfectant beforehand

..This is done between EVERY patient.

3. All clinics that detox will put multiple patients in a sauna together. You

are sweating " out " toxins. I was extremely ill when I arrived there and sauna

was magical for me. He really needs to get in there asap.

4. Some people will find something wrong with everything and if your son wants

to be well, he will do it. If he refuses, then he will not get well there. Plain

and simple.

I wish you luck. Yes its extremely expensive but if he is willing to do the

treatments then you will see progress but he also needs to continue the

treatments when he leaves. It is by no means a " quick fix. " Most of us here have

been dealing with this for many years.

Best to you and your son, Diane

>

> HI,

>

> I'm in Dallas w/my sick son, have seen Dr. Rea and run a lot of tests which

confirm in different ways than prior tests how sick he is, probably from mold

and other environmental triggers. We are staying in their " environmental

housing " and my son is blowing his nose measurably less which is the first small

improvement in 4 years, albeit a small one. I feel like we are getting close to

the end of the line, we have to find a way to start turning this illness around

or the inflammation will continue to degrade body, mind and vital organs, I have

been holding Dr. Rea out as one of the last options and one that might really

help, and this is all costing a small fortune.

>

[Guest guest]

I think going Dr. Reas testing and sauna detox sholud be provided by the state

immeditly following a toxic exposure. fast, like a emergency

type deal. they've been poisoned ! it should help stop the continuing effects,

but you have to continue the advoidence after your done to not get injured

again, you may need some other treatments

after that depending on what effects you've had. some have CNS damage

and fibromyagia " type " symptoms and chronic fitue symptoms.

I fell pretty possitive that these two syndromes result from the CNS damage

and/or the damage to the myelin sleaths and nerve engings ,receptor/transmission

problems. than if you have sinus,eye,ears,and brain dysfunctions, another thing

(some with seizure type symptoms). and I believe that if you have allergies on

top of that you also have histamine intolerance on top of the

matabolism syndrome,ect. and so on.

we all need to have immediate medical treatment when this happens, many oldies

didn't get it. the faster you get medical help the better chance of it makeing

you fell much better. this is a multi-system and multi-organ disease. I dont

think anyone can say that a one corse

treatment of anything has tottally healed them. some long term exposures might

be harder in some ways to treat.

but I do think for some, a trip to Dr. Rea's might patch them right up, so it

seems like the best first step, if you can do it.

>

> Sue V: I have a few things I would like to say about Dr. Reas allergy testing

and sauna. Unless the method has changed since I was there...

>

> 1. The only thing that touches the bottle of disinfectant is a clean cotton

ball. It is NEVER reused after wiping the patients arm clean, it is then

discarded and a new cotton ball is used EACH time.

> 2. The pen circles the wheel and is nowhere near blood and when they use it on

another patient their arm is cleaned again with the disinfectant beforehand

..This is done between EVERY patient.

> 3. All clinics that detox will put multiple patients in a sauna together. You

are sweating " out " toxins. I was extremely ill when I arrived there and sauna

was magical for me. He really needs to get in there asap.

> 4. Some people will find something wrong with everything and if your son wants

to be well, he will do it. If he refuses, then he will not get well there. Plain

and simple.

>

> I wish you luck. Yes its extremely expensive but if he is willing to do the

treatments then you will see progress but he also needs to continue the

treatments when he leaves. It is by no means a " quick fix. " Most of us here have

been dealing with this for many years.

>

> Best to you and your son, Diane

[Guest guest]

Medicare or Medicaid or both cover the costs of going to Dr Rae's clinic, but

private insurers do not, at least that was what I was told when I was down

there, billing dept, said " too bad your not on medicare or was it medicaid " , as

I dug out my credit card to pay for it. Medicare and Medicaid also sometimes

cover 'alternative forms' of treatment for serious illnesses such as cancer,

even some given out of the country, but it one would need to find out ahead of

time to be sure. Maybe in situations where traditional treatment has already

been tried and failed (?)

>

> I think going Dr. Reas testing and sauna detox sholud be provided by the state

immeditly following a toxic exposure. fast, like a emergency

> type deal. they've been poisoned ! it should help stop the continuing

effects, but you have to continue the advoidence after your done to not get

injured again, you may need some other treatments

> after that depending on what effects you've had. some have CNS damage

>

[Guest guest]

HI Diane,

thanks for your encouragement, and glad you had a positive expereince at

Dr. Rea's... My son feels very vulnerable and is frightened of just

about everything, including the treatments at Dr. Rea's. But, yesterday

got him started on the 18 days of oxygen therapy. The sauna guy says he

is willing to work with him to give him private saunas if he gets there

right at 1pm when it isn't busy. We are meeting w/nutritionist on

Thursday because I want them to spell out the rotational diet so I'm not

the bad guy (mom/adult trapped kid dynamic), and then I will try to get

him to circle back to the whole allergy skin testing thing which is what

frightens him the most: see my comments below.

>Sue V: I have a few things I would like to say about Dr. Reas allergy

>testing and sauna. Unless the method has changed since I was there...

>

>1. The only thing that touches the bottle of disinfectant is a clean

>cotton ball. It is NEVER reused after wiping the patients arm clean, it

>is then discarded and a new cotton ball is used EACH time.

The disinfectant, I think they call it zephrin, is poured into a tub (I

think they are empty containers that the syringes come in). The cotton

ball is dipped into the tub of disinfectant, arm is wiped w/cotton ball,

cotton ball thrown out. But what my son sees is if the finger tips from

gloved hand holding the cotton ball which was not changed before last

patient are dipped (accidentally or on purpose) with cotton ball into

disinfectant, then it is possible someone else's trace blood got into

the disinfectant. Then they take the antigen bottle and dip it into the

disinfectant so possibly someone else's trace blood gets on antigen

bottle top membrane, then syringe poked into antigen bottle to draw up

antigen, possible trace blood contamination, and then that's injected

into you. Also, sometimes they dip the pen into the disinfectant which

could also have trace blood on it.

SO, the question I want to ask the doctor, which will irritate him I

know, is " is there any possibility that if someone else's trace blood

gets into the disinfectant tub, could viruses/bacteria etc in that blood

survive the disinfectant?? I think if there is no possibility of bug

survival, my son should be able to get comfortable with the process.

Personally I am comfortable with every other thing I have seen in this

clinic, and I do believe that their procedure is probably very safe, but

as my son's other doc says, if a healthcare provider needs to wear

gloves to work with a patient, it is " bad form " not to change them

before the next patient. My son said that the allergy tester blotted

his arm when a little blood came out of the injection site and this was

using the same gloves he'd been wearing with other patients. When my

son said something to him about that, he responded something like " oh I

shouldn't be doing that " , in other words he's not supposed to blot the

patient's arm with his glove, but it's sort of an automatic thing one

would do.

When I met w/Dr. Rea w/o my son I told him I didn't want to dissect his

infection control procedures but that my son was now scared to do the

testing (one allergy tech said she changes gloves between patients as

part of the protocol, then the next said no, and another staff member

told me they were more concerned about protecting the allergy techs or

something like that, the enviro housing coordinator told me that we are

not the first patients to have issues w/the testing methodology, the

sharing of pens between patients, etc., she said " it's not for

everybody " ) Dr. Rea said " never had a problem, screen everyone for hep c

and hiv (but what about false negatives??), and changing gloves not

necessary and there's not time to change gloves, would slow things down

too much (but why then are the allergy testers wearing gloves at all and

I would argue that if they aren't changing them between patients then

they are wearing them for their own protection). Nonetheless, it is

hard for me to imagine that they aren't adhering to a safe protocol, I

believe this doc has a passion and is on a mission to help people,

otherwise why would he still be seeing patients 5 days a week in his

70's?? and not having proper infection controls could lead to some

really bad lawsuits...

In any case, I have to find a way to get my son comfortable w/the

process or he will not do this part of it.

>2. The pen circles the wheel and is nowhere near blood and when they use

>it on another patient their arm is cleaned again with the disinfectant

>beforehand .This is done between EVERY patient.

Still, it might be a more sanitary procedure to give every patient their

own pen...

>3. All clinics that detox will put multiple patients in a sauna

>together. You are sweating " out " toxins. I was extremely ill when I

>arrived there and sauna was magical for me. He really needs to get in

>there asap.

this will happen later this week or next.

>4. Some people will find something wrong with everything and if your son

>wants to be well, he will do it. If he refuses, then he will not get

>well there. Plain and simple.

no, not that simple, his brain is inflammed, he has lots of phobias, the

smallest little thing takes the greatest effort on his part, I have to

drive the process but can only drive it so far...

>

>I wish you luck. Yes its extremely expensive but if he is willing to do

>the treatments then you will see progress but he also needs to continue

>the treatments when he leaves. It is by no means a " quick fix. " Most of

>us here have been dealing with this for many years.

>

>Best to you and your son, Diane

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, I think you have every right to make sure the process is as safe as

possible for your son. And he is right to question it. When my grandmother got

blood sepsis in the hospital, my sister noted that the nurses did not wash there

hands between patients , there was not even sinks for them to wash their hands.

Blood sepsis was a hospital borne infection that my grandmother was lucky to

have survived. A lot of procedures that are accepted in this country are not

accepted in Sweden, where my sister worked for many years. In Sweden no one is

allowed to wash their own work clothes, or leave the hospital wearing them. The

Laundry is locked and secure, and you put on a clean set of scrubs every time

you walk in the hospital, even if you are the administrator. This is the kind of

attention to detail that is necessary to stop hospital infections. I am sure I

would find problems with Dr Rea clinic.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue: Seems they have changed things some since I was there (2006). The bottle

was a pump style bottle that they would pump at the top with the cotton balls

where the solution came out, they did not pour it out as you say, so some things

have changed. I did not need the oxygen but I had friends there that saw a huge

improvment with that therapy. I also was going to say (and I guess Tim told you

already) that I did sauna at 1:00 pm daily and was alone about 90% of the time.

So, great, you know that and he should be able to be alone at least for some of

the time to sauna. I understand your sons fear and vulnerability, believe me I

do. But as you say, Dr. Rea is 70+ years of age and going strong in what he

believes in. So, again, best of luck to you and your son Sue. Diane

>

> HI Diane,

>

> thanks for your encouragement, and glad you had a positive expereince at

> Dr. Rea's... My son feels very vulnerable and is frightened of just

> about everything, including the treatments at Dr. Rea's. But, yesterday

> got him started on the 18 days of oxygen therapy. The sauna guy says he