Mushy walls

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Well I finally bought a house. Due to my chemical sensitivity I lived in my

truck for 5 years ! The house borders National Forest with no neighbors close

that are enough to send me running when they do laundry. No lawn spraying can

get me either but it's woodsy so nobody would spray nearby anyway. The downside,

I'm restricted to living in the kitchen. Don't tolerate the L/R floor as the

unfinished wood absorbed the fumes from the carpet that was over it...including

Carpet Fresh fumes. The bedrooms are moldy. One is worst than the other & the

walls are mushy. FINALLY someone found that out for me. I knew mold was growing

on the outside of both rooms but couldn't figure out why one room was so much

more obnoxious.

So now what ? Rip out all the walls ? The roof was inspected 3 times & someone

is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic insulation. It's

loose cellulose & vermiculite ! & it's very damp here from Oct to about now. So

either there WAS a leak & that's why the walls are mushy/moldy inside or the

insulation , which was damp this winter, wet the walls. My L/R ceiling was

coming down in the living room this winter until I started a fire & the ceiling

dried out & sucked back up.

The built in kitchen cabinets have about an 1/8 inch gap between it & the wall &

it was all black fuzz in there. I taped over it with foil tape as I couldn't do

remediation with the windows closed in the only room I'm living in. So I guess I

rip out all those walls too huh?

I'm sorry this is so long I'm rather upset. This isn't a whole lot better than

living in my truck right now.

Thanks for any advice at all.

[Guest guest]

rip out the walls 2!!!!

--- On Sun, 5/16/10, safersmilesdentallab <safersmilesdentallab@...>

wrote:

From: safersmilesdentallab <safersmilesdentallab@...>

Subject: [] Mushy walls

Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 11:36 PM

Hi all,

Well I finally bought a house. Due to my chemical sensitivity I lived in my

truck for 5 years ! The house borders National Forest with no neighbors close

that are enough to send me running when they do laundry. No lawn spraying can

get me either but it's woodsy so nobody would spray nearby anyway. The downside,

I'm restricted to living in the kitchen. Don't tolerate the L/R floor as the

unfinished wood absorbed the fumes from the carpet that was over it...including

Carpet Fresh fumes. The bedrooms are moldy. One is worst than the other & the

walls are mushy. FINALLY someone found that out for me. I knew mold was growing

on the outside of both rooms but couldn't figure out why one room was so much

more obnoxious.

So now what ? Rip out all the walls ? The roof was inspected 3 times & someone

is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic insulation. It's

loose cellulose & vermiculite ! & it's very damp here from Oct to about now. So

either there WAS a leak & that's why the walls are mushy/moldy inside or the

insulation , which was damp this winter, wet the walls. My L/R ceiling was

coming down in the living room this winter until I started a fire & the ceiling

dried out & sucked back up.

The built in kitchen cabinets have about an 1/8 inch gap between it & the wall &

it was all black fuzz in there. I taped over it with foil tape as I couldn't do

remediation with the windows closed in the only room I'm living in. So I guess I

rip out all those walls too huh?

I'm sorry this is so long I'm rather upset. This isn't a whole lot better than

living in my truck right now.

Thanks for any advice at all.

[Guest guest]

What a mess. You got majorly screwed.

[Guest guest]

What do you mean by mushy walls? It sounds awful! Do you mean they are soft?

>

> Hi all,

> Well I finally bought a house. Due to my chemical sensitivity I lived in my

truck for 5 years ! The house borders National Forest with no neighbors close

that are enough to send me running when they do laundry. No lawn spraying can

get me either but it's woodsy so nobody would spray nearby anyway. The downside,

I'm restricted to living in the kitchen. Don't tolerate the L/R floor as the

unfinished wood absorbed the fumes from the carpet that was over it...including

Carpet Fresh fumes. The bedrooms are moldy. One is worst than the other & the

walls are mushy. FINALLY someone found that out for me. I knew mold was growing

on the outside of both rooms but couldn't figure out why one room was so much

more obnoxious.

> So now what ? Rip out all the walls ? The roof was inspected 3 times & someone

is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic insulation. It's

loose cellulose & vermiculite ! & it's very damp here from Oct to about now. So

either there WAS a leak & that's why the walls are mushy/moldy inside or the

insulation , which was damp this winter, wet the walls. My L/R ceiling was

coming down in the living room this winter until I started a fire & the ceiling

dried out & sucked back up.

> The built in kitchen cabinets have about an 1/8 inch gap between it & the wall

& it was all black fuzz in there. I taped over it with foil tape as I couldn't

do remediation with the windows closed in the only room I'm living in. So I

guess I rip out all those walls too huh?

> I'm sorry this is so long I'm rather upset. This isn't a whole lot better than

living in my truck right now.

> Thanks for any advice at all.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The guy said they're soft. That they got wet & probably have mold in them. First

I'm having the insulation sucked out. It's too wet here for a water absorbing

material. I'm looking into replacing it with styrofoam peanuts. I can't believe

I have to pay for them when people throw them out. I plan to post an ad in town

looking to take it off people's hands though.

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Well I finally bought a house. Due to my chemical sensitivity I lived in my

truck for 5 years ! The house borders National Forest with no neighbors close

that are enough to send me running when they do laundry. No lawn spraying can

get me either but it's woodsy so nobody would spray nearby anyway. The downside,

I'm restricted to living in the kitchen. Don't tolerate the L/R floor as the

unfinished wood absorbed the fumes from the carpet that was over it...including

Carpet Fresh fumes. The bedrooms are moldy. One is worst than the other & the

walls are mushy. FINALLY someone found that out for me. I knew mold was growing

on the outside of both rooms but couldn't figure out why one room was so much

more obnoxious.

> > So now what ? Rip out all the walls ? The roof was inspected 3 times &

someone is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic

insulation. It's loose cellulose & vermiculite ! & it's very damp here from Oct

to about now. So either there WAS a leak & that's why the walls are mushy/moldy

inside or the insulation , which was damp this winter, wet the walls. My L/R

ceiling was coming down in the living room this winter until I started a fire &

the ceiling dried out & sucked back up.

> > The built in kitchen cabinets have about an 1/8 inch gap between it & the

wall & it was all black fuzz in there. I taped over it with foil tape as I

couldn't do remediation with the windows closed in the only room I'm living in.

So I guess I rip out all those walls too huh?

> > I'm sorry this is so long I'm rather upset. This isn't a whole lot better

than living in my truck right now.

> > Thanks for any advice at all.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If the walls are mushy they are either wet now or have been seriously in the

past. I don't know how they can suck out the insulation without the walls

falling apart.

Who said they were mushy? Before or after you bought the house? Did the sellers

disclose properly? If they didn't you may be able to unwind the sale. Which I'd

sure try go do.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: Mushy walls

The guy said they're soft. That they got wet & probably have mold in them. First

I'm having the insulation sucked out. It's too wet here for a water absorbing

material. I'm looking into replacing it with styrofoam peanuts. I can't believe

I have to pay for them when people throw them out. I plan to post an ad in town

looking to take it off people's hands though.

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Well I finally bought a house. Due to my chemical sensitivity I lived in my

truck for 5 years ! The house borders National Forest with no neighbors close

that are enough to send me running when they do laundry. No lawn spraying can

get me either but it's woodsy so nobody would spray nearby anyway. The downside,

I'm restricted to living in the kitchen. Don't tolerate the L/R floor as the

unfinished wood absorbed the fumes from the carpet that was over it...including

Carpet Fresh fumes. The bedrooms are moldy. One is worst than the other & the

walls are mushy. FINALLY someone found that out for me. I knew mold was growing

on the outside of both rooms but couldn't figure out why one room was so much

more obnoxious.

> > So now what ? Rip out all the walls ? The roof was inspected 3 times &

someone is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic

insulation. It's loose cellulose & vermiculite ! & it's very damp here from Oct

to about now. So either there WAS a leak & that's why the walls are mushy/moldy

inside or the insulation , which was damp this winter, wet the walls. My L/R

ceiling was coming down in the living room this winter until I started a fire &

the ceiling dried out & sucked back up.

> > The built in kitchen cabinets have about an 1/8 inch gap between it & the

wall & it was all black fuzz in there. I taped over it with foil tape as I

couldn't do remediation with the windows closed in the only room I'm living in.

So I guess I rip out all those walls too huh?

> > I'm sorry this is so long I'm rather upset. This isn't a whole lot better

than living in my truck right now.

> > Thanks for any advice at all.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with the other posters. First try to legally back out of the purchase.

If you cannot, I would rip out all the dry-wall, carpeting, and rotten wood.

Before removing any rotten wood that is part of the support-structure, I'd

consult a good architect/contractor... and consider adding extra support.

I'd also remove any insulation that is contributing to the problem.

I once visited some hippie guys who did exactly this to their beautiful house.

You could see the empty rafters, and the boards where the pink-panther

insulation was removed. You could see the wires travelling up to each light

fixture/electric outlet... It was not pretty, but it was livable.

I'd consider getting a good dehumidifier and drying the place out. Living

without insulation can be tough. I'd consider looking in to a kerosene heater,

to be used next to where I sleep in the winter, and taking measures to make sure

the water pipes do not burst.

I might also consider purchasing an old $1200 1978 20' Taurus camper and

sleeping in there.

Living in an ugly house is better than slowly being poisoned to death.

I might consider buying a bunny-suit, rubber boots, eye-goggles!, face-mask,

air-supply... to keep that moldy air off of my skin, out of my lungs, and away

from my mucous membranes. Remember, that the eyes, are just an externalized

portion of the brain, and it is the nervous system that is under attack here.

The tonsils will itch as they cleanse the body of the mold-related toxins, but

that's just the body doing it's job to keep the body healthier. I would not

suppress sore-throat/runny-nose... with drugs of any kind. There are nutriants

that will enable the body to increase it's ability to get rid of the

mold-toxins, but eating too many, too fast, can make one feel uncomfortable...

It's a ballancing act w/ mold. Too much sugar, and the fungus grows like

wild-fire. Not enough panela (natural unrefined Mexican sugar) and the lungs do

not have enough nutriants to produce the enough mucous to clean the lungs out

well. Any refined white-sugar just makes things worse. It fills the desire for

the nutriants with nutriantless poison. Too much nutriant-rich-food and the

throat gets way too sore, way too fast. Not enough, and one has to wonder if

the body has enough of the right nutrients to get the job done right. This is

not medical advice. This is what I do, and what I find for myself, so it would

be wise to consider it with a grain of salt. As we all know, the only people

qualified to give medical advice are the 8-year trained men in white robes, in

the huge buildings who dispense potions and spells, and the only men qualified

to give spiritual advice are the ones in black robes, with the degrees, the huge

buildings, and dispense similar latin nonsense to the believing masses, or

perhaps not. I choose to see with my own eyes. Believe what you choose. Your

destiny will be determined by it, so choose well.

[Guest guest]

You might fell better in one room than in other rooms but that doesn't mean your

not still harming your health, is it warm enough to pitch a tent outside? and

you sure dont want to be inside if you start gutting it out, stiring things up

could hurt you even worse.

what kind of shape is the roof in, wheres the moisture problem comeing from? you

need to do some major investagation and deturmine if its worth it or not.

if theres been a long time problem, and it sounds like mabye so, it may be to

contaminated, sometimes they aren't worth the exspence and nightmare, not to

mention that if it's not done right, a waist of money,and still possable health

risks.

if you already have chemical sensitivity, you shouldn't be there or mess with it

in any way.

hiring it done carries a high risk of it not being done right. if you are going

to mess with it, you need to protect yourself and park a rv close by to live in

and be careful not to contaminate it.

paper disposable suits,proper mask wear,gloves,ect.

than your going to have to shower everytime before going to the rv.

dont take the clean cloths in there with you while your stirring things up or

you'll bring it to the rv with you.

make sure your head is covered too. you really shouldn't leave any skin exposed

either.

if you dont properly protect yourself, you may end up with something you dont

want, it's not worth it, nothing is worth loseing your health over. when mold

dries it becomes dust, toxic dust, it filters to places you might not exspect it

to.

that dust can, in my opinion,

be worse than the mold thats growing. if it's been growing there a long enough

time, it may be that you have toxic dust everywhere.

dust is easier to clean but only if you can get to it.

lot's of things to consider. good luck

>

> I agree with the other posters. First try to legally back out of the

purchase. If you cannot, I would rip out all the dry-wall, carpeting, and

rotten wood. Before removing any rotten wood that is part of the

support-structure, I'd consult a good architect/contractor... and consider

adding extra support.

>

> I'd also remove any insulation that is contributing to the problem.

>

> I once

[Guest guest]

Beware the vermiculite. This material often has a small amount of asbetos. It

must be removed by someone certified to do asbestos removal to prevent

contaminating the house air, more stringent requirements than for mold.

If you aren't familiar with this problem, google Libby Montana asbestos

problem from the W.R. Grace vermiculite mining operation.

Mushy walls

Posted by: " safersmilesdentallab " safersmilesdentallab@...

safersmilesdentallab

Date: Mon May 17, 2010 5:29 am ((PDT))

Hi all,

Well I finally bought a house. Due to my ...... The roof was inspected 3 times &

someone is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic

insulation. It's loose cellulose & vermiculite ......

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the heads up. I will ask him about that. His removal unti is

completely sealed but...

>

> Beware the vermiculite. This material often has a small amount of asbetos.

It must be removed by someone certified to do asbestos removal to prevent

contaminating the house air, more stringent requirements than for mold.

>

> If you aren't familiar with this problem, google Libby Montana asbestos

problem from the W.R. Grace vermiculite mining operation.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mushy walls

> Posted by: " safersmilesdentallab " safersmilesdentallab@...

safersmilesdentallab

> Date: Mon May 17, 2010 5:29 am ((PDT))

>

> Hi all,

> Well I finally bought a house. Due to my ...... The roof was inspected 3 times

& someone is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic

insulation. It's loose cellulose & vermiculite ......

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

An old leak probably or maybe the vermiculite in the attic keeps it damp. No I

can't back out now. Was homeless for 5 years - MCS. My brain is shot from it too

& can't deal with red tape. A sale would mean losing SSI until I buy again. They

don't supplement you if yoiu have $135,000 in the bank ! I won't find better...I

am sure. Too much to take into account with the MCS.

>

> If the walls are mushy they are either wet now or have been seriously in the

past. I don't know how they can suck out the insulation without the walls

falling apart.

>

> Who said they were mushy? Before or after you bought the house? Did the

sellers disclose properly? If they didn't you may be able to unwind the sale.

Which I'd sure try go do.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with your standpoint re: medicine. I take natural supplements. Had

genetic testing to see where my body needs help.

I can't back out of the deal. Don't want to. 5 years homeless. Can't take it

anymore. MCS has given me brain damage. It's too complicated to me to accomplish

basic things much less the red tape to back out of the deal & work with SSI to

get my income back. I will lose it if I have $$$. I will also probably spend all

the money in search of somewhere to be daily, nightly, while I househunt - only

to have to go south to wait out every winter...until the money is gone. I will

have someone start ripping stuff out when it get warmer.

This is very complicated. Seems I can't get a whole lot accoplished until I

figute out where to put a shed so I have somewhere to put everything. My SUV is

packed - makes it real hard to shop even. This is all too much for me. I need

rest after being homeless so long. Sigh.

>

> I agree with the other posters. First try to legally back out of the

purchase. If you cannot, I would rip out all the dry-wall, carpeting, and

rotten wood. Before removing any rotten wood that is part of the

support-structure, I'd consult a good architect/contractor... and consider

adding extra support.

>

> I'd also remove any insulation that is contributing to the problem.

>

[Guest guest]

,

With asbestos it is not enough to ask or check. It is governed by Federal law.

Some states are more strict than the Feds. In addition to the risk of exposure

there is the risk of fines and imprisonment. The vermiculite must be tested by a

licensed professional in an accredited lab. If it contains 1% or more asbestos

any removal must be done by licensed professionals.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: Mushy walls

Thanks for the heads up. I will ask him about that. His removal unti is

completely sealed but...

>

> Beware the vermiculite. This material often has a small amount of asbetos.

It must be removed by someone certified to do asbestos removal to prevent

contaminating the house air, more stringent requirements than for mold.

>

> If you aren't familiar with this problem, google Libby Montana asbestos

problem from the W.R. Grace vermiculite mining operation.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mushy walls

> Posted by: " safersmilesdentallab " safersmilesdentallab@...

safersmilesdentallab

> Date: Mon May 17, 2010 5:29 am ((PDT))

>

> Hi all,

> Well I finally bought a house. Due to my ...... The roof was inspected 3 times

& someone is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate on removing the attic

insulation. It's loose cellulose & vermiculite ......

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I am speechless and truly hope you don't try to live in the house until it is

fully remediated. From your description I cannot comprehend how this is better

than most houses or your car. There must be more to the story.

I do not intend to criticize or increase your stress and difficulties. I have

only utmost compassion and support for you and hope you can get the rest and

peace you deserve.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

[] Re: Mushy walls

An old leak probably or maybe the vermiculite in the attic keeps it damp. No I

can't back out now. Was homeless for 5 years - MCS. My brain is shot from it too

& can't deal with red tape. A sale would mean losing SSI until I buy again. They

don't supplement you if yoiu have $135,000 in the bank ! I won't find better...I

am sure. Too much to take into account with the MCS.

>

> If the walls are mushy they are either wet now or have been seriously in the

past. I don't know how they can suck out the insulation without the walls

falling apart.

>

> Who said they were mushy? Before or after you bought the house? Did the

sellers disclose properly? If they didn't you may be able to unwind the sale.

Which I'd sure try go do.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you. Yes I know this. I am looking into labs etc.

>

> ,

>

> With asbestos it is not enough to ask or check. It is governed by Federal law.

Some states are more strict than the Feds. In addition to the risk of exposure

there is the risk of fines and imprisonment. The vermiculite must be tested by a

licensed professional in an accredited lab. If it contains 1% or more asbestos

any removal must be done by licensed professionals.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

[Guest guest]

Carl,

Car living is a constant battle against condensation. It's damp & very cold at

night & the sun beats on the truck by day. Perfect conditions for the most

condensation. When I moved in it was raining & didn't stop. I have sporadic dry

days now when I go food shopping & take care of other basic needs... the truck

is still packed & will not dry well if I go loading groceries in the rain. It's

nice to have a tad more room in the truck for groceries now that some things are

out of it though. There is mold growing under the bed in the truck. I don't have

a dryer & can't dry things in this weather to overhaul the truck. Besides, I

want to move forward not backwards & have had it with 5 years of killing my back

digging for every little thing in there. Not to mention I'm having a hard time

with daily living due to the MCS & don't have the energy to put out towards

tasks that aren't of the utmost importance RIGHT NOW. I'm in pain too because I

have nowhere to sit & I am sleeping on 2 pieces of Refelctix. I can't muster it

up to live in the truck & am too worn out to try to go back to climbing into bed

that way. It will be MORE damp in there with my body in it. As I said, I am

living in the kitchen & it is very isolated from problem areas.

And yes, this is better thsn most houses. I haven't seen any house, in my

travels (through all but 13 states), that is far enough from neighbors & the

dryer ducts spewing out the fragrances that make me ill beyond explanation. The

closest I've seen is farmland (surrounded by pesticided fields) or mansions

(surrounded bt Chem-lawned grass). I am waaaay too sensitive to that to even BE

on my land. Spent 2 years in a rental I thought was far enopugh from neighbors &

spent 80 hours a week running away from home at the drop of a hat ( kept a bag

packed & could get out in less than a minute) every time they burned something

or did laundery. With MCS there is no hanging out indoors with the chemicals

from everyone's personal care products so I'd sit in my truck for hours. I

finally took to living in my truck.... & 5 years was quite enough.

>

> ,

>

> I am speechless and truly hope you don't try to live in the house until it is

fully remediated. From your description I cannot comprehend how this is better

than most houses or your car. There must be more to the story.

>

> I do not intend to criticize or increase your stress and difficulties. I have

only utmost compassion and support for you and hope you can get the rest and

peace you deserve.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for the additional information. No one knows better

than you what you react to, what you don't, and what conditions

provide the minimal and maximum impact on your life. In other

words, which locations are safest for you.

I have clients, for example, who are not reactive to mold and who

can live in moldy environments that others cannot. Conversely, I

have clients who react to exquisite levels of mold but can easily

tolerate fragrances. Most, of course, are complex combinations

of both and with many other exposure sources.

However, very few have a clear understanding of this complexity

and how to (somewhat) objectively evaluate it for themselves, let

alone others. If I have doubted your capabilities then I apologize.

What I and others can comment on is information about the

physical environment, its characteristics as far as what we know

with some reasonable degree of certainty and what is yet to be

determined. HOW it affects a particular person, such as yourself,

we cannot know or predict.

For example, if chemical exposure is the highest impact for you

then mold may not be. However, be aware that mold which is

growing actively generates chemicals in the same VOC family as

the types of fragrances which quickly drive you outside and into

your car. On the other hand, the type of chemicals from car

exhaust are different and you may be able to tolerate them.

My original concern for you, and I think from the rest of us who

responded, was it seemed you were jumping from the frying pan

into the fire of a grossly moldy building. Exactly what most on this

group has had to run from.

I hope this helps to explain where I'm coming from and why the

strong statements from others on this group. None of us want you

to be trapped in a situation from which there is no escape. But

our interpretation of your original post was that was exactly what

you were doing. So thank you for the additional information.

There are many on this group who have similar experiences

which I'm sure you will find very helpful.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

Carl,

Car living is a constant battle against condensation. It's damp & very cold at

night & the sun beats on the truck by day. Perfect conditions for the most

condensation. When I moved in it was raining & didn't stop. I have sporadic dry

days now when I go food shopping & take care of other basic needs... the truck

is still packed & will not dry well if I go loading groceries in the rain. It's

nice to have a tad more room in the truck for groceries now that some things are

out of it though. There is mold growing under the bed in the truck. I don't have

a dryer & can't dry things in this weather to overhaul the truck. Besides, I want

to move forward not backwards & have had it with 5 years of killing my back

digging for every little thing in there. Not to mention I'm having a hard time

with daily living due to the MCS & don't have the energy to put out towards

tasks that aren't of the utmost importance RIGHT NOW. I'm in pain too because I

have nowhere to sit & I am sleeping on And yes,

this is better thsn most houses. I haven't seen any house, in my travels

(through all but 13 states), that is far enough from neighbors & the dryer ducts

spewing out the fragrances that make me ill beyond explanation. The closest I've

seen is farmland (surrounded by pesticided fields) or mansions (surrounded bt

Chem-lawned grass). I am waaaay too sensitive to that to even BE on my land.

Spent 2 years in a rental I thought was far enopugh from neighbors & spent 80

hours a week running away from home at the drop of a hat ( kept a bag packed &

could get out in less than a minute) every time they burned something or did

laundery. With MCS there is no hanging out indoors with the chemicals from

everyone's personal care products so I'd sit in my truck for hours. I finally

took to living in my truck.... & 5 years was quite enough.

>

> ,

>

> I am speechless and truly hope you don't try to live in the house until it is

fully remediated. From your description I cannot comprehend how this is better

than most houses or your car. There must be more to the story.

>

> I do not intend to criticize or increase your stress and difficulties. I have

only utmost compassion and support for you and hope you can get the rest and

peace you deserve.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

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[Guest guest]

Your state Dept of Health should have a list of those who have

the required state licenses. They will know which labs are

licensed and accredited. Unlike with mold and VOCs, you

shouldn't have to do much searching for either. They are on well

established and publically available lists from depts of health.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

Thank you. Yes I know this. I am looking into labs etc.

>

> ,

>

> With asbestos it is not enough to ask or check. It is governed by Federal law.

Some states are more strict than the Feds. In addition to the risk of exposure

there is the risk of fines and imprisonment. The vermiculite must be tested by a

licensed professional in an accredited lab. If it contains 1% or more asbestos

any removal must be done by licensed professionals.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

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I hope I didn't give the impression that I take mold lightly. I warn everyone

not to ignore it & live with it. I won't even go in the moldy rooms without

wearing full gear (yes vapor mask too). I only go in to change lightbulbs. The

light providing very minimal discouragement of unwanted life but it's something.

Wish me luck that I get this rectified before I run out of money & don't have to

live in the the kitchen forever to avoid mold!

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> ,

>

> Thank you for the additional information. No one knows better

> than you what you react to, what you don't, and what conditions

> provide the minimal and maximum impact on your life. In other

> words, which locations are safest for you.

>

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