Re: ACOEM's New Mold Position Statement

[Guest guest]

can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

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> _http://www.acoem.org/AdverseHumanHealthEffects_Molds.aspx_

> (http://www.acoem.org/AdverseHumanHealthEffects_Molds.aspx)

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> Sharon Noonan Kramer

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[Guest guest]

yeah, what research are they using to support their statements??

From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Subject: [] Re: ACOEM's New Mold Position Statement

Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 6:50 PM

can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:56:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

kmtown2003@... writes:

yeah, what research are they using to support their statements??

research of how to market insurer fraud disguised as science.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

It's got two key spin concepts in it:

1. Mold is only harmful to severely immunocompromised people

2. The toxins found in WDB could never reach a level to harm.

It's no better than the last one. Those calculations were a fraud ten

years ago to deny causation of illness and they still are today. The

difference is, today they have been widely discredited by many research

papers....yet, ACOEM put them in AGAIN.

It's exactly what I expected they would do.

_WorkCompCentral – Group Petitions ACOEM for Review of Mold Guidelines_

(http://freepdfhosting.com/715a485427.pdf)

Sharon Noonan Kramer

[Guest guest]

I think that chronic exposure to toxins does put us in the immune compromized

catagory. even if toxins were not involved and there was only a chronic mast

cell responce that would compromize the immune system. neutropina is a immune

compromized situation, neutropina is known to be caused by toxin exposure and

mycotoxins exposure.

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> In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> jeaninem660@... writes:

>

> can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

>

>

>

> It's got two key spin concepts in it:

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> 1. Mold is only harmful to severely immunocompromised people

> 2. The toxins found in WDB could never reach a level to harm.

>

> It's no better than the last one. Those calculations were a fraud ten

> years ago to deny causation of illness and they still are today. The

> difference is, today they have been widely discredited by many research

> papers....yet, ACOEM put them in AGAIN.

>

> It's exactly what I expected they would do.

>

> _WorkCompCentral †" Group Petitions ACOEM for Review of Mold Guidelines_

> (http://freepdfhosting.com/715a485427.pdf)

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> Sharon Noonan Kramer

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[Guest guest]

theres no one that cant say our immune systems are not compromised during these

exposures, maybe overactive with lower dose type exposures or in the beganning

of exposures and anywhere between overactive,underactive or suppressed any time

during exposure.

we dont end up with CIRS IF OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM HASN'T BEEN COMPROMISED.

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> > In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > jeaninem660@ writes:

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> > can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

> >

> >

> >

> > It's got two key spin concepts in it:

> >

> > 1. Mold is only harmful to severely immunocompromised people

> > 2. The toxins found in WDB could never reach a level to harm.

> >

> > It's no better than the last one. Those calculations were a fraud ten

> > years ago to deny causation of illness and they still are today. The

> > difference is, today they have been widely discredited by many research

> > papers....yet, ACOEM put them in AGAIN.

> >

> > It's exactly what I expected they would do.

> >

> > _WorkCompCentral †" Group Petitions ACOEM for Review of Mold Guidelines_

> > (http://freepdfhosting.com/715a485427.pdf)

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> >

> > Sharon Noonan Kramer

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[Guest guest]

What can be done about it??

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: " snk1955@... " <snk1955@...>

Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:06:01 AM

Subject: Re: [] Re: ACOEM's New Mold Position Statement

In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

jeaninem660@... writes:

can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

It's got two key spin concepts in it:

1. Mold is only harmful to severely immunocompromised people

2. The toxins found in WDB could never reach a level to harm.

It's no better than the last one. Those calculations were a fraud ten

years ago to deny causation of illness and they still are today. The

difference is, today they have been widely discredited by many research

papers....yet, ACOEM put them in AGAIN.

It's exactly what I expected they would do.

_WorkCompCentral – Group Petitions ACOEM for Review of Mold Guidelines_

(http://freepdfhosting.com/715a485427.pdf)

Sharon Noonan Kramer

[Guest guest]

Just thought people would like to know that compelling someone to work in a

moldy environment is illegal in Canada, just one of the reasons my sister moved

there.

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> In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> jeaninem660@... writes:

>

> can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

>

>

>

> It's got two key spin concepts in it:

>

> 1. Mold is only harmful to severely immunocompromised people

> 2. The toxins found in WDB could never reach a level to harm.

>

> It's no better than the last one. Those calculations were a fraud ten

> years ago to deny causation of illness and they still are today. The

> difference is, today they have been widely discredited by many research

> papers....yet, ACOEM put them in AGAIN.

>

> It's exactly what I expected they would do.

>

> _WorkCompCentral †" Group Petitions ACOEM for Review of Mold Guidelines_

> (http://freepdfhosting.com/715a485427.pdf)

>

>

> Sharon Noonan Kramer

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Parts of Canada also don't allow wearing of fragrances in public. US

is way behind in health because of public interest groups - also

because not too many brave people ever spoke up to them. Sharon Kramer

is like a modern day Norma Rae. God bless her.

Barth

www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html

SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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c> Just thought people would like to know that compelling someone to work in a

moldy environment is illegal in Canada, just one of the reasons my sister moved

there.

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>> In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:43:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

>> jeaninem660@... writes:

>>

>> can this position statement be cited? and if not, why?

>>

>>

>>

>> It's got two key spin concepts in it:

>>

>> 1. Mold is only harmful to severely immunocompromised people

>> 2. The toxins found in WDB could never reach a level to harm.

>>

>> It's no better than the last one. Those calculations were a fraud ten

>> years ago to deny causation of illness and they still are today. The

>> difference is, today they have been widely discredited by many research

>> papers....yet, ACOEM put them in AGAIN.

>>

>> It's exactly what I expected they would do.

>>

>> _WorkCompCentral †" Group Petitions ACOEM for Review of Mold Guidelines_

>> (http://freepdfhosting.com/715a485427.pdf)

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>> Sharon Noonan Kramer

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[Guest guest]

Just this week I met a wonderful couple from Vancouver, BC. They told me that

you cannot legally remove ANY mold from your home there. You have to call in

professionals and they all wear the hazmat suits regardless of how much mold or

what kind it is. Also, very strict laws for disposal of it as well. They said

even a moldy sheet of dry wall from a bathroom is illegal to " dump. " I told them

that the US is so far behind in all of it. Nice to know that they know how to do

things properly. I find that encouraging. D

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> Just thought people would like to know that compelling someone to work in a

moldy environment is illegal in Canada, just one of the reasons my sister moved

there.

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[Guest guest]

Makes me think about when United HealthCare (Uniprise or Unisurprise)

remediated the building I was in after I left. NO barriers between the

workers and that connecting building. The men, who were from Chicago,

never wore any HazMat suits. I often wonder if they're still alive. I

called to ask their supervisor, but he didn't answer me.

Barth

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SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html

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d> Just this week I met a wonderful couple from Vancouver, BC. They told me that

you cannot legally remove ANY mold from your home there. You have to call in

professionals and they all wear the

d> hazmat suits regardless of how much mold or what kind it is. Also, very

strict laws for disposal of it as well. They said even a moldy sheet of dry wall

from a bathroom is illegal to " dump. " I

d> told them that the US is so far behind in all of it. Nice to know that they

know how to do things properly. I find that encouraging. D

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>> Just thought people would like to know that compelling someone to work in a

moldy environment is illegal in Canada, just one of the reasons my sister moved

there.

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