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Where is the plenum Gil?

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> Hi Kathy,

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> I have found your letters interesting, starting with the window issue,

progressing to the ducts. I wonder if the ducts are the problem, and not the

windows. New windows seal far better than the old, and thus amplify any indoor

air quality problems you might have.

> I am really curious about the duct sealing you are mentioning. Why is it

recommended? Ducts can be a big problem if old and leaky, or simply if not

properly installed. Attic flex duct gets very hot in summer, and the inner

plastic lining can degrade. Sealing is not the answer. Replacement is. Also,

does this system have a plenum made of fiberglass ductboard, or have some other

type of inner fibrous insulation? If so, replacement of the plenum is highly

suggested. Sheet metal plenum and ducts are suggested, possibly with a little

flexduct at the ends to connect to existing registers. All insulation should be

on the outside of ducts. For extra protection against biofilm formation, you

might want to pay the added cost for AK Steel's Agion Technology metal ducts.

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Hi Gil-

Thank you so much for posting and I know, I am just all over the place...lol....

Using my existing ductwork with whatever erridication method we chose, it would

reduce one more new material for the MCS to content with. So if possible, I

requested options using the existing ductwork either through the furnace or as a

tie in. So my HVAC guy insisted on knowing the status of my ducts. So did duct

testing, found leaks particularly on the supply side. Thus his recommendation

to consider sealing. His thoughts were if we were going to use the ducting for

any air exchange method, we needed unleaky ducts particularly on the supply

side.

I would love to replace the ducting with hard ducting but other than a major

construction project of running them on the interior walls then boxing them in,

it's not feasible with the layout of this house. Have a very quirky home and

except for a few short runs that are in open attic, there was no option but to

use flex duct. To be honest, the previous owner had the retrofit done and I am

amazed at how they were able to snake such long runs in between the attic floors

and downstairs ceilings.

As far as the plenum..yes, everything is metal. And one of the first things I

did when I bought this place was have them box in/seal all the returns, which

several are located on the upper outside wall that is actually located mostly

above the garage. That in itself made a huge difference as when the next door

neigbors have their driveway sealed, the vapors now have a harder time migrating

into my house.

You bring up replacing the flex duct due to potential degrading and I couldn't

agree more. Am interested to know if you have any recommendations for a quality

flexible ducting that might also be less toxic? My furnace and ducting are

around 15 years old. Ugh, I made it through the insulation but new ducting, oh

boy...lol... When Bower built/wrote the Healthy House books, he used hard

ducting and I don't think he referenced less toxic flexible brands. I'll check

them again though to be sure.

I would sure appreciate your feedback on why you think so highly of

AK Steel's Agion Technology metal ducting? I see that they are using the silver

based anti-microbial compound technology and wonder if you know it's true

effectiveness? I have several MCS friends who have done well with silver based

coatings.

Please note that I have no financial or vested interest in any person, place,

object or anything else mentioned in this posting.

Kathy

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Hi Kathy, I wonder if the ducts are the problem, and not the windows. New

windows seal far better than the old, and thus amplify any indoor air quality

problems you might have. I am really curious about the duct sealing you are

mentioning. Why is it recommended? Sealing is not the answer. Replacement is.

Also, does this system have a plenum made of fiberglass ductboard, or have some

other type of inner fibrous insulation? Sheet metal plenum and ducts are

suggested, possibly with a little flexduct at the ends to connect to existing

registers. All insulation should be on the outside of ducts. For extra

protection against biofilm formation, you might want to pay the added cost for

AK Steel's Agion Technology metal ducts.

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Hi Barb,

The furnace has three sections. The first is the housing for the fan and

filter. The second is the firebox, where gas is burned and heat is produced. The

heated air goes next to the third section, the plenum, the section above the

firebox where air conditioners are usually placed. The plenum is the section

where all the air distribution pipes (ducts) are attached. This is the place

mold is most likely to grow during air conditioning season. Ductboard or fibrous

insulation inside is a great dust trap, and moisture trap, making an ideal mold

garden once any antimicrobial chemicals are depleted. Sheet metal is a far

better choice, with any insulation on the outside, not in the air path.

Re: Duct sealing?

Posted by: " barb b w " barb1283@... barb1283

Date: Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:16 pm ((PST))

Where is the plenum Gil?

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