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SHALOM Mel,

Edgar Cayce would use Castor Oil a great many times in his readings.

Do a GOOGLE search for: Edgar Cayce+Castor Oil

....and you will find important info on it all.

Kind regards,

Gubi

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> Mel -

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> there is a simple answer - flax oil. I hope you forgive me to keep the

terminology straight (in this cancer business with x opinions and y terms).

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> Regards

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> At 22:20 Uhr +0100 15.03.2003, Mel wrote: I'm not tired of talking

about cancer, and it was me who asked a simple question regarding " healing "

oils and was there anyone " out there " who had knowledge of any healing oils

that would tie into the " biblical " oils that were used in ancient times?

That seemed to me an easy question to answer and instead of getting an

answer that directly addresses the question; we have this most confusing

discussion as to what is and what isn't " essential " oils..And this post from

SaraLou has me even more confused like Pepe le Peu and some unfortunate

Parisian alley cat..But YES..Let's get back on the subject of cancer, and

perhaps naming a " healing oil " that actually has been PROVEN to aid in our

struggle against CANCER... melville ;-)

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Mel -

The terms Mystery and Miracle are used when one/we/doctors don't

understand a certain effect. The keyword is 'understand'.

Reasons for not understanding may be

illiteracy

laziness to learn

bound to particular paradigms

fanatism

profit

and mixes of those.

In this mailing list (and others) we are trying to cure or at

least manage our disease. We

use the experience from others

search for sources and references - many biased

ask doctors - mostly educated by the pharma/medical hitech industry

ask nutrinionists - often fixed to a certain regimen

try to come to convincing conclusions

report about our measures.

Difficult? You bet. But if we are honest to each other we have a big

advantage over the industrialized medical community.

One more about miracles. The hypothesis that almost all diseases are

psychosomatic may be true.

So, solving mental problems is a way to go.

Supporting that by a healthy lifestyle and nutrition sounds reasonable.

Is success from that a miracle?

If you believe in your chosen regimen, is success a result from your

strong faith or a miracle?

About anointing - external use of flax oil is common.

Dr Budwig and others had good success with it.

It is explained with the energy loaded in the electrons of the seeds

and oils.

This goes for internal application as well as for e.g. enemas.

Read her books.

Regards

At 5:31 Uhr +0100 16.03.2003, Mel wrote:

>Now that makes sense...Flax oil is " essential " .and it works..I have to ask

>your forgiveness in that I'm not " savy " when it comes to all of the

>technical terms regarding cancer and still not sure of how to spell

> " metastisizing " or whatever and so I get lost in much of the detail and

>terminology on here; but that's not your fault. Now I'm finding out that

>apparently " castor oil " could also be a medicinal " healing oil " and that

>is it's use seems to be some kind of " anointing " as in the bible..It is

>also a " mystery " in how it works. Mystery and miraculous are very close in

>their meanings..aren't they? Sort of reminds me of the qualities of those

>products Helen's going on about..Hmmmmmm? Do miracles really happen or is

>there a perfectly logical chemical reason for the healing qualities of

>these oils? Would " anointing " one's head with " flaxseed-oil " and cottage

>cheese do any good?

>melville ;-)

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>Mel -

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>there is a simple answer - flax oil. I hope you forgive me to keep the

>terminology straight (in this cancer business with x opinions and y

>terms).

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Thanks Bee, I took 4,000 g Vit C after I read Dr. Mikes email and than 4,000

more 3 hours later. The pain went away last nite and I " moved " this morning. I

thought the C would affect my stomache but it didn't. I have had problems in

the past with C causing some problems. Does excess C work like a laxiative or

how does that work? I feel really good this morning.

Thanks Dr. Mike!

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In a message dated 3/8/2005 10:29:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

angel_lts@... writes:

I got a sample of coconut oil from essential oils YUCK!! It had a burnt

taste to it. TERRIBLE! I am feeding it to my dog instead.

Dear ,

Are you talking about Jamaincan Gold? In the five years that I've been

using it, it has never had a burned taste, it's always been very smooth

tasting, fragrant, and flavorful. What a disappointment -- something must have

gone

wrong.

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Thanks for the advisory. Your dog will probaly love

it. You can always use it externally on your skin.

--- angel_lts@... wrote:

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> I got a sample of coconut oil from essential oils

> YUCK!!

> It had a burnt taste to it. TERRIBLE!

> I am feeding it to my dog instead.

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Has anyone tried coconut oil for cats? Sometimes what works for dogs isn't

good for cats, and vice versa, but I have no dogs and 7 cats!! <g>

Carol

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Thanks for the advisory. Your dog will probaly love

it. You can always use it externally on your skin.

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>I got a sample of coconut oil from essential oils YUCK!!

It had a burnt taste to it. TERRIBLE!

I am feeding it to my dog instead.<

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Were you trying this from essentialoil.com?

Were you trying to get Jamaican Gold?

Did you specify Jamaican Gold or just coconut oil?

Their website is very confusing. If you search for coconut oil, you may not

even find Jamaican Gold. I had to search for it very specifically to find

it. If you search for coconut oil, you won't get Jamaican Gold, and vice

versa.

I've had coconut oil that tastes like burnt motor oil; I know just what you

mean. Nasty.

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that is a good Idea too. but I have heard others say that there dog

doesnt smell anymore so I am giving it to her.

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Yes it is jamaican gold organic coconut oil

> >I got a sample of coconut oil from essential oils YUCK!!

> It had a burnt taste to it. TERRIBLE!

> I am feeding it to my dog instead.<

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> Were you trying this from essentialoil.com?

> Were you trying to get Jamaican Gold?

> Did you specify Jamaican Gold or just coconut oil?

> Their website is very confusing. If you search for coconut oil, you

may not

> even find Jamaican Gold. I had to search for it very specifically to

find

> it. If you search for coconut oil, you won't get Jamaican Gold, and vice

> versa.

> I've had coconut oil that tastes like burnt motor oil; I know just

what you

> mean. Nasty.

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That is the one I have.

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> In a message dated 3/8/2005 10:29:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> angel_lts@y... writes:

>

> I got a sample of coconut oil from essential oils YUCK!! It had a

burnt

> taste to it. TERRIBLE! I am feeding it to my dog instead.

>

>

>

>

> Dear ,

> Are you talking about Jamaincan Gold? In the five years that

I've been

> using it, it has never had a burned taste, it's always been very

smooth

> tasting, fragrant, and flavorful. What a disappointment -- something

must have gone

> wrong.

> CJ

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Maybe they dont send out samples that often and it has been sitting

for a long time. But no thanks I would not order it now.

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> In a message dated 3/8/2005 10:29:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> angel_lts@y... writes:

>

> I got a sample of coconut oil from essential oils YUCK!! It had a

burnt

> taste to it. TERRIBLE! I am feeding it to my dog instead.

>

>

>

>

> Dear ,

> Are you talking about Jamaincan Gold? In the five years that

I've been

> using it, it has never had a burned taste, it's always been very

smooth

> tasting, fragrant, and flavorful. What a disappointment -- something

must have gone

> wrong.

> CJ

>

>

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Hi

Does anyone know of a reputable company that sells

organic essential oil blends, similar to Young Living?

I haven't been pleased with them.

Thanks,

jafa

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Hi Jafa,

Here are the two suppliers I use. Their oils are of excellent

quality, customer service is great, and the prices are much better

than YLs:

http://www.av-at.com/

http://www.naturesgift.com/

They both will send free samples of oils you'd like to try with your orders.

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> Hi

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> Does anyone know of a reputable company that sells

> organic essential oil blends, similar to Young Living?

> I haven't been pleased with them.

>

> Thanks,

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In what way/for what reason were you planning to use them? I would say that

*how* they're used determines their degree of suppression - or lack of it.

:o)

Sue

> Essential Oils

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> Are these suppressive? (like Lavendar, etc)

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LOL I guess it would help to know that, huh?

For example theraputic grade lavendar oil on a cut. (a friend who sells them

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ability! I love your son's Dr. Suess room! Very original and terrific!

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Selma and everyone,

I started two essential oils a month ago from a doc who trained with

Dr. K...and let me tell you, they are STRONG! (I take them orally)

They have the rizol you mentioned Selma, also artemisia, walnut oil,

oregano, garlic and a few other things.

I had major breathing problems (suspecting a huge herx) about a week

after starting them.

I've heard there's a compound called thujone in essential oils that is

a neurotoxin and so I've been concerned a bit about taking them.

has anyone else heard about this?

Thanks, Connie

> Robin, maybe you have reasons to be suspicious... OK, but Dr. K.

> seems to be a very good doctor. That's the main reason I follow his

> suggestions/ protocols and people trained with him.

>

> But I keep looking around for alternatives, less expensive products

> etc. Sometimes it's difficult to find. In the end, some of his

> products end up paying back because they're effective (other brands

> of chlorella never did much to me).

>

> I just got a name of another company that sells similar products here

> in Germany, will try to check prices to compare. I keep looking

> around! If I get something good, I'll post it. Like Omega 3, I never

> buy with Biopure/ INK, as there are loads of good omega 3 around for

> a fraction of the price.

>

> ARe you on all Buhner's CP herbs? They were a very good start for me,

> to lower the amount of critters.

>

> As for essential oils, what I'm doing is what Farah suggested (I

> posted her main posts sometime ago). I'm sure there are loads of

> other good oils to try. I'm just trying them for the first time (for

> lyme). And I feel this is very potent, the herxes are very different

> from any herb I took. Maybe because they act directly on the troubled

> place. I still have to continue trying it to see if it's not placebo

> effect!

>

> I don't rub at the same time as I take herbs or I just fall on the

> sofa. That is why I think I can distinguish its effects from herbs

> (fatigue comes in less than an hour after rubbing).

>

> My doctor ART-tested the oil mix I did. He said that the oil acts

> very strong on me (but WAY too strong, so I need to dilute it more).

> He was very interested on it, because of the very positive ART he

> got. I mixed eucalyptus, rose geranium, thyme, patchouli and lemon

> (not exactly as Farah suggested: she suggested geranium instead of

> rose geranium and still added frankinese (sp?), but that was NO with

> pendulum for me, so I didn't add it). The proportion I did was

> different from each oil. More of lemon, less of thyme.

>

> Boy, it hit something!

>

> I would also like to read about other people's experiences with

> rubbing essential oils. I feel it's a huge field to explore!!

>

> If you try any oil (Lymeessence or other), please tell us here what

> you think about!!

>

> Problem is price again, if you buy organic and in tiny 5ml bottles.

> But I found an ebay site from Germany that sells 100ml bottles for

> very low price. I may try them then, as the small bottles won't last

> much (SURELY less than a month). Maybe ebay in the US could be a try

> for you all?

>

> Yes, chlorela vulgaris has CGF inside, but in minimum amounts. I just

> added the extract now as a suggestion from the naturopath and also

> because I feel chlorella is not doing as good job as it did in the

> previous months (I suppose that's because I got most of my 'flying'

> metals flushed out, now I need to go more intracellular to catch

> them, and chlorella doesn't do that).

>

> My doctor met Dr. K. here in Germany for another course a few days

> ago. He started using a new technique of a mirror with a special

> lense on a patient of his that was unable to sleep (she could just

> sleep an hour a night). He learned that with Dr. K. a few days ago.

> He said his lyme patient just called him today to say she started

> sleeping 6 hours a day just with this lense + mirror !! My doc was so

> excited to see how some things do work!

>

> He also suggested me the Rizols (sort of ozonated oils?). I'm going

> to check this around here (Swtizreland/ Germany) and will let you all

> know. I'll try to see if I can buy these Rizols to mix with my own

> oil mix. I'm investing in these oils now to try to lower the amounts

> of herbs I take in the next days.

>

> Take care! NOW I NEED TO SLEEP.

> Selma

>

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Hi Selma - I just don't understand why BioPure charges so much to

handle and ship things. I also don't understand why they sell their

electrolytes in a plastic bottle when Dr. K hates plastic! Whatever.

On the Rizols, Biopure sells some ozonated oils. Has anyone used

them? Just wondering why no one has mentioned the biopure oils....

Robin

>

> Robin, maybe you have reasons to be suspicious... OK, but Dr. K.

> seems to be a very good doctor. That's the main reason I follow his

> suggestions/ protocols and people trained with him.

>

> But I keep looking around for alternatives, less expensive products

> etc. Sometimes it's difficult to find. In the end, some of his

> products end up paying back because they're effective (other brands

> of chlorella never did much to me).

>

> I just got a name of another company that sells similar products

here

> in Germany, will try to check prices to compare. I keep looking

> around! If I get something good, I'll post it. Like Omega 3, I

never

> buy with Biopure/ INK, as there are loads of good omega 3 around

for

> a fraction of the price.

>

> ARe you on all Buhner's CP herbs? They were a very good start for

me,

> to lower the amount of critters.

>

> As for essential oils, what I'm doing is what Farah suggested (I

> posted her main posts sometime ago). I'm sure there are loads of

> other good oils to try. I'm just trying them for the first time

(for

> lyme). And I feel this is very potent, the herxes are very

different

> from any herb I took. Maybe because they act directly on the

troubled

> place. I still have to continue trying it to see if it's not

placebo

> effect!

>

> I don't rub at the same time as I take herbs or I just fall on the

> sofa. That is why I think I can distinguish its effects from herbs

> (fatigue comes in less than an hour after rubbing).

>

> My doctor ART-tested the oil mix I did. He said that the oil acts

> very strong on me (but WAY too strong, so I need to dilute it

more).

> He was very interested on it, because of the very positive ART he

> got. I mixed eucalyptus, rose geranium, thyme, patchouli and lemon

> (not exactly as Farah suggested: she suggested geranium instead of

> rose geranium and still added frankinese (sp?), but that was NO

with

> pendulum for me, so I didn't add it). The proportion I did was

> different from each oil. More of lemon, less of thyme.

>

> Boy, it hit something!

>

> I would also like to read about other people's experiences with

> rubbing essential oils. I feel it's a huge field to explore!!

>

> If you try any oil (Lymeessence or other), please tell us here what

> you think about!!

>

> Problem is price again, if you buy organic and in tiny 5ml bottles.

> But I found an ebay site from Germany that sells 100ml bottles for

> very low price. I may try them then, as the small bottles won't

last

> much (SURELY less than a month). Maybe ebay in the US could be a

try

> for you all?

>

> Yes, chlorela vulgaris has CGF inside, but in minimum amounts. I

just

> added the extract now as a suggestion from the naturopath and also

> because I feel chlorella is not doing as good job as it did in the

> previous months (I suppose that's because I got most of my 'flying'

> metals flushed out, now I need to go more intracellular to catch

> them, and chlorella doesn't do that).

>

> My doctor met Dr. K. here in Germany for another course a few days

> ago. He started using a new technique of a mirror with a special

> lense on a patient of his that was unable to sleep (she could just

> sleep an hour a night). He learned that with Dr. K. a few days ago.

> He said his lyme patient just called him today to say she started

> sleeping 6 hours a day just with this lense + mirror !! My doc was

so

> excited to see how some things do work!

>

> He also suggested me the Rizols (sort of ozonated oils?). I'm going

> to check this around here (Swtizreland/ Germany) and will let you

all

> know. I'll try to see if I can buy these Rizols to mix with my own

> oil mix. I'm investing in these oils now to try to lower the

amounts

> of herbs I take in the next days.

>

> Take care! NOW I NEED TO SLEEP.

> Selma

>

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Hi Robin,

Dont' ask me... No idea either. The local Klinghardt institute here

charges next to nothing for handling, but we have to pay the shipment

of course. They started giving me discounts lately, I did'nt ask for

any, so I'm still buying from them.

Have you tried merely salty water with Himalayan salt ( not very strong

dilution though, only enough to feel it 'salty') for your electrolytes?

The K. institute here sells no more Biopure electrolytes but recommends

us to do our own Himalayan salty solution. That's what I've been doing.

I never used the real electrolyte solution though to compare.

I just got a prescription to buy one rizol now, and I'll probably start

sometime next week. But someone here's been using it with good results.

I just started reading about them lately in lymenet. As I got some

fungal infections, my naturopath just recommended me (and also for

bartonella??). Don't ask me why... I got a positive bartonella again,

so I'm going agaisnt it next. She told me to use both KMT and rizol

(here called Para Rizol N-Y) in the bathtube that should act for both

my skin and for bartonella. I'll let you know. I tried quite many

products against fungal infections, I find they are all ineficient so

far. Just can keep my symptoms down.

gotta go!

Selma

> Hi Selma - I just don't understand why BioPure charges so much to

> handle and ship things. I also don't understand why they sell their

> electrolytes in a plastic bottle when Dr. K hates plastic! Whatever.

>

> On the Rizols, Biopure sells some ozonated oils. Has anyone used

> them? Just wondering why no one has mentioned the biopure oils....

>

> Robin

>

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Hi a,

I don't know the answer off hand but check out mountain rose herb

site. They have symbols next to their essential oils, and one symbol

warns people not to use it when pregnant. Its a good place to start to

look, maybe it can help.

Jecca

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Does anybody know if it is safe to use cinnamon leaf essential oil in a

lotion (about 10 drops per 10 oz lotion) during pregnancy and while

breast feeding?

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>> Does anybody know if it is safe to use cinnamon leaf essential oil

in a lotion (about 10 drops per 10 oz lotion) during pregnancy and

while breastfeeding?

==>a, see the article " Herbs Not Safe for Pregnancy & During

Breastfeeding " which is an article after all of the Folders. Just use

your Edit Find on this page function on your browser using the word

pregnancy.

Bee

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Ginny, I LOVE 'essential oils' but I only use them for fun, & I love the smell so much, and the fragrance last so long. There is a store in Brooklyn NY that was my favorite. (don't know if its still there). they sell thousands of these oils. I would put baby powder (smell) on the rug in my bathroom, the Lavender or Rosemary in the bedrooms and what ever else I love in my car carpet. I just love them. I haven't used any of these as hope for anything else besides a great smelling home and car. they also have them in message oils, which I love too. they also sell them all over in Manhattan which I miss. the ones you can buy in the street, the price are so cheap compared to the ones in the stores that just sell these oils. I know this wasn't what you were asking, but I just love these oils. a little in the washer rinse cycle is nice too. Roseginny_552001

<ginny_552001@...> wrote: I've been reading about the benefits of certain smells such as lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is supposed to be good for memory.Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried??Ginny

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Rose,

I appreciate your response to my question. I too love the smells it

adds to the home. I attended a forum on asperger and there was a

panelist who is a nurse practioner and message therapist. She was

telling us she now has 49 patients,all with different diagnosis but

under the umbrella of autism like asperger. She talked of using

different oils and as well massaging pressure points to help when

kids are really upset.

I am seriously considering calling her a setting up us an

appointment to see what she has to offer.

Our ds doesn't have the times of great anger but he does have lows

in his mood and it seems like something that would help smooth some

of those times. I've notice he rubs his hands through his hair

during some of his stressful times.

Thanks,

Ginny

> I've been reading about the benefits of certain smells

such as

> lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is

> supposed to be good for memory.

>

> Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried??

>

> Ginny

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Ginny, that all sounds great, but would you still need to teach him that anger feeling when it first starts and how to handle it? for the days he doesn't have an appointment with that massage therapist. I think both would work great together. My son had, and sometimes still gets those angry moments (when someone is annoying him), or things don't work out his way. So, I had to teach him what to do when that happens, how to handle and control his anger. then he went to a few yoga and karate classes. we stopped that because it just got to expensive. (we did the yoga and karate classes as the same way that you would with the essentials oils) for relaxing. * and while he was there, he didn't have time to get angry with others. *smile*. but I still think they have to be taught ' how to reconize the first signs of anger, and take control of all those anger feelings. ' Rose ginny_552001 <ginny_552001@...> wrote: Rose, I appreciate your response to my question. I too love the smells it adds to the home. I attended a forum on asperger and there was a panelist who is a nurse practioner and message therapist. She was telling us she now has 49 patients,all with different diagnosis but under the umbrella of autism like asperger. She talked of using different oils and as well massaging pressure points to help when kids are really upset.I am seriously considering

calling her a setting up us an appointment to see what she has to offer.Our ds doesn't have the times of great anger but he does have lows in his mood and it seems like something that would help smooth some of those times. I've notice he rubs his hands through his hair during some of his stressful times.Thanks,Ginny> I've been reading about the benefits of certain smells such as > lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is > supposed to be good for memory.> > Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried??> > Ginny> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all

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Rose, This is exactly what I would like to do, teach my son how to handle his anger when something doesn't go his way or even when he's just feeling overwhelmed. What do you do? I'm not sure how to teach him how to handle anger. -Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote: Ginny, that all sounds great, but would you still need to teach him that anger feeling when it first starts and how to handle it? for the days he doesn't have an appointment with that massage therapist. I think

both would work great together. My son had, and sometimes still gets those angry moments (when someone is annoying him), or things don't work out his way. So, I had to teach him what to do when that happens, how to handle and control his anger. then he went to a few yoga and karate classes. we stopped that because it just got to expensive. (we did the yoga and karate classes as the same way that you would with the essentials oils) for relaxing. * and while he was there, he didn't have time to get angry with others. *smile*. but I still think they have to be taught ' how to reconize the first signs of anger, and take control of all those anger feelings. ' Rose ginny_552001 <ginny_552001 > wrote: Rose, I appreciate your response to my question. I too

love the smells it adds to the home. I attended a forum on asperger and there was a panelist who is a nurse practioner and message therapist. She was telling us she now has 49 patients,all with different diagnosis but under the umbrella of autism like asperger. She talked of using different oils and as well massaging pressure points to help when kids are really upset.I am seriously considering calling her a setting up us an appointment to see what she has to offer.Our ds doesn't have the times of great anger but he does have lows in his mood and it seems like something that would help smooth some of those times. I've notice he rubs his hands through his hair during some of his stressful times.Thanks,Ginny> I've been

reading about the benefits of certain smells such as > lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is > supposed to be good for memory.> > Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried??> > Ginny> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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