Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 , that was one of the hardest things we had to work on. everything I would try to work with, with him didn't work. a time out, did nothing !. and people would tell me, you have to correct his aggressive behavior because he is getting older and stronger and you won't have any control of him at all. He has to stop!. But nothing I did worked. I did take him to a therapist, (which he still sees) and I don't know what that therapist did ( I don't go in ) but it started working. (slow progress) when my son was younger, he would even say things like, I'll shoot you. and he was so young. but now, with continuing therapy, he calmed down lots. he has learned to recognize when he's getting angry. another Hugh problem with his aggression was his lack to verbalize what was making him angry. like when someone annoys him. etc.. he would just get physical. because he couldn't process everything he needed to do to verbalize himself. He also doesn't know how to problem solve. his therapist would do lots of roll play, which works great, but if something were to happen - that wasn't in with his roll play - he didn't know what to do, so the anger started again. but today, as he got older, I guess everything is kicking in. and he is learning to verbalize everything. which is with baby steps. IMO, I think there is more to it than a child just being called "an aggressive child ". with mine, there was the lack to verbalize the problem to an adult. also, the processing delay, and lack of ability to problem solve. with all these concerns together, I have the " aggressive" child that needed to be taught how to deal with each/all of these issues to get to solving the aggressive behavior. If that makes sense to you??? Rose Ake <lessen@...> wrote: Rose, This is exactly what I would like to do, teach my son how to handle his anger when something doesn't go his way or even when he's just feeling overwhelmed. What do you do? I'm not sure how to teach him how to handle anger. -Rose <beachbodytan2002 > wrote: Ginny, that all sounds great, but would you still need to teach him that anger feeling when it first starts and how to handle it? for the days he doesn't have an appointment with that massage therapist. I think both would work great together. My son had, and sometimes still gets those angry moments (when someone is annoying him), or things don't work out his way. So, I had to teach him what to do when that happens, how to handle and control his anger. then he went to a few yoga and karate classes. we stopped that because it just got to expensive. (we did the yoga and karate classes as the same way that you would with the essentials oils) for relaxing. * and while he was there, he didn't have time to get angry with others. *smile*. but I still think they have to be taught ' how to reconize the first signs of anger, and take control of all those anger feelings. ' Rose ginny_552001 <ginny_552001 > wrote: Rose, I appreciate your response to my question. I too love the smells it adds to the home. I attended a forum on asperger and there was a panelist who is a nurse practioner and message therapist. She was telling us she now has 49 patients,all with different diagnosis but under the umbrella of autism like asperger. She talked of using different oils and as well massaging pressure points to help when kids are really upset.I am seriously considering calling her a setting up us an appointment to see what she has to offer.Our ds doesn't have the times of great anger but he does have lows in his mood and it seems like something that would help smooth some of those times. I've notice he rubs his hands through his hair during some of his stressful times.Thanks,Ginny> I've been reading about the benefits of certain smells such as > lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is > supposed to be good for memory.> > Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried??> > Ginny> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Rose, Our son does not seem to deal with anger in the same way. He doesn't show anger by getting up and speaking harshly or having tantrums. Its more of the passive aggression. He just doesn't do what he might be asked, he maybe does something he knows will be agrevating, or teases. He has supressed his anger and frustrations to the point I believe it's brought about his depression. He says he deceided to not feel. He would just shut down. Don't feel, don't do what he's supposed to do and just withdraw. He would become quiet, not want to come out of his room, not share anything that is going on. When asked about things it was always he didn't know. And I believe sometimes he really didn't know. He didn't know why he was feeling the way he did, he didn't know how to handle things at school that were just to much to deal with and I was working, had went back to college and a divorce and he just wanted to play video games. He now also reads and it too is a way of escape. But, through learning what is really going on we are much able to cope. We bring him in a kind one out of his room, we talk about asperger and depression. We go to couseling that is for the whole family. We recently went through an episode where he had things stolen from him and possibly from a friend or a friends friend where he was also a quest. He would not speak up for his things. He would rather let it go. We dealt with that in counseling and I do believe it has helped. Not that he is ready to take on an aggressive person but he is doing better. I was hoping for the essential oils to help bring about a soothing effect when he is feeling depressed and the massage of pressure points along with that to help deal with times that are frustration but not necessarily anger. Actually I feel like our son has to be taught that when things are stessful, frustrating, hurtful, etc he has to be taught how to deal with them and not to just shut down. Ginny , that was one of the hardest things we had to work on. everything I would try to work with, with him didn't work. a time out, did nothing !. and people would tell me, you have to correct his aggressive behavior because he is getting older and stronger and you won't have any control of him at all. He has to stop!. But nothing I did worked. I did take him to a therapist, (which he still sees) and I don't know what that therapist did ( I don't go in ) but it started working. (slow progress) when my son was younger, he would even say things like, I'll shoot you. and he was so young. but now, with continuing therapy, he calmed down lots. he has learned to recognize when he's getting angry. another Hugh problem with his aggression was his lack to verbalize what was making him angry. like when someone annoys him. etc.. he would just get physical. because he couldn't process everything he needed to do to verbalize himself. He also doesn't know how to problem solve. his therapist would do lots of roll play, which works great, but if something were to happen - that wasn't in with his roll play - he didn't know what to do, so the anger started again. but today, as he got older, I guess everything is kicking in. and he is learning to verbalize everything. which is with baby steps. IMO, I think there is more to it than a child just being called "an aggressive child ". with mine, there was the lack to verbalize the problem to an adult. also, the processing delay, and lack of ability to problem solve. with all these concerns together, I have the " aggressive" child that needed to be taught how to deal with each/all of these issues to get to solving the aggressive behavior. If that makes sense to you??? Rose Ake <lessensbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: Rose, This is exactly what I would like to do, teach my son how to handle his anger when something doesn't go his way or even when he's just feeling overwhelmed. What do you do? I'm not sure how to teach him how to handle anger. -Rose <beachbodytan2002> wrote: Ginny, that all sounds great, but would you still need to teach him that anger feeling when it first starts and how to handle it? for the days he doesn't have an appointment with that massage therapist. I think both would work great together. My son had, and sometimes still gets those angry moments (when someone is annoying him), or things don't work out his way. So, I had to teach him what to do when that happens, how to handle and control his anger. then he went to a few yoga and karate classes. we stopped that because it just got to expensive. (we did the yoga and karate classes as the same way that you would with the essentials oils) for relaxing. * and while he was there, he didn't have time to get angry with others. *smile*. but I still think they have to be taught ' how to reconize the first signs of anger, and take control of all those anger feelings. ' Rose ginny_552001 <ginny_552001> wrote: Rose, I appreciate your response to my question. I too love the smells it adds to the home. I attended a forum on asperger and there was a panelist who is a nurse practioner and message therapist. She was telling us she now has 49 patients,all with different diagnosis but under the umbrella of autism like asperger. She talked of using different oils and as well massaging pressure points to help when kids are really upset.I am seriously considering calling her a setting up us an appointment to see what she has to offer.Our ds doesn't have the times of great anger but he does have lows in his mood and it seems like something that would help smooth some of those times. I've notice he rubs his hands through his hair during some of his stressful times.Thanks,Ginny> I've been reading about the benefits of certain smells such as > lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is > supposed to be good for memory.> > Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried??> > Ginny> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 My beautician(sp?) turned me onto essential oils. I use the Lavender and Chamomile. She told me how you can calm a hyperactive child down especially at night by taking a drop of each into the palm of your hand and mixing in a small amount of olive oil, then rubbing it on the bottom of their feet. I've tried that once but I usually drop 4 drops into their bath and that works great. Sometimes I use both at the same time in the bath or one at a time. It not only puts my little monkeys to sleep but myself as well since I'm the one giving them the baths. > > ginny_552001 <ginny_552001@ ...> wrote: > > I've been reading about the benefits of certain smells > such as > > lavendar. It is supposed to have a calming effect. Rosemary is > > supposed to be good for memory. > > > > Does any one have suggestions or something you've tried?? > > > > Ginny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 No cedar helps. That was just the only oil from the citrus family that really killed them. The other citrus oils may work fine as deterents, as does cedarcide when I put it on. I always spray my socks with it. But I don't think it kills them on me. There are many other essential oils that killed them. b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are vellux blankets mite proof?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Friends, I do not wish to sound controversial, or disagreeable, but Young Living Essential Oils are over-priced. (my personal observation; confirmed by others I know) I know someone who offers essential oils at much lower prices. They can be combined, as in the Four Thieves essential oil blend that many speak of. The ingredients in that mixture are not " a secret. " One can find them online. I've asked someone about this. The one I asked has 30 years experience with organic herbs and with organic essential oils. This person mixes them personally, when it's needed by a customer, and can vouch for the higher quality of the oils being used, as well as offering them at a lower price, because YL is a multi-level marketing " way " to obtain essential oils. Yes, both ways work. One saves you money. And it may provide you with higher-quality essential oils, which means you can get the good results you want, by using less. Just so you know there are other suppliers who offer such healthful mixtures as well as Young Living Essential Oils. And, yes, it is wise to check the details you'd want to know about, for any essential oil you plan to use internally or externally. It does make a difference, as you all know. What I'm writing here are statements to everyone here, for your information. I also agree that oregano and oregano oil, as well as melaleuca alternifolia (sp?), as well as hyssop (dried, cut leaves, flowers & stems, for tea or for making a concentrated tea to drink daily), as well as lavender (especially the essential oil), are very good for building up one's immune system, though they are not all one might wish to use, for that purpose. Buying these in bulk, when possible, is much cheaper. Good quality cod liver oil is a wonderful immune system booster, as well as Kombucha tea, as mentioned in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions, by Sally Fallon. There are many alternatives for building up our immune systems, as you all know. Keep studying. Just please don't limit yourself to one supplier, just because you have not yet tried to mix your own, or asked someone else who knows how to do it, in the right way. We can all learn from those we trust. Am just thankful God led me to someone who does know this can be done, and also encourages me to mix my own. It is not as " mysterious " (how it can be done) as many may think. Kathy kasayeshua@... Ephesians 1: 3 -- 2: 10 ______________________________ > > I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say " not for internal use " because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC. > > Therese > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Friends, I do not wish to sound controversial, or disagreeable, but Young Living Essential Oils are over-priced. (my personal observation; confirmed by others I know) I know someone who offers essential oils at much lower prices. They can be combined, as in the Four Thieves essential oil blend that many speak of. The ingredients in that mixture are not " a secret. " One can find them online. I've asked someone about this. The one I asked has 30 years experience with organic herbs and with organic essential oils. This person mixes them personally, when it's needed by a customer, and can vouch for the higher quality of the oils being used, as well as offering them at a lower price, because YL is a multi-level marketing " way " to obtain essential oils. Yes, both ways work. One saves you money. And it may provide you with higher-quality essential oils, which means you can get the good results you want, by using less. Just so you know there are other suppliers who offer such healthful mixtures as well as Young Living Essential Oils. And, yes, it is wise to check the details you'd want to know about, for any essential oil you plan to use internally or externally. It does make a difference, as you all know. What I'm writing here are statements to everyone here, for your information. I also agree that oregano and oregano oil, as well as melaleuca alternifolia (sp?), as well as hyssop (dried, cut leaves, flowers & stems, for tea or for making a concentrated tea to drink daily), as well as lavender (especially the essential oil), are very good for building up one's immune system, though they are not all one might wish to use, for that purpose. Buying these in bulk, when possible, is much cheaper. Good quality cod liver oil is a wonderful immune system booster, as well as Kombucha tea, as mentioned in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions, by Sally Fallon. There are many alternatives for building up our immune systems, as you all know. Keep studying. Just please don't limit yourself to one supplier, just because you have not yet tried to mix your own, or asked someone else who knows how to do it, in the right way. We can all learn from those we trust. Am just thankful God led me to someone who does know this can be done, and also encourages me to mix my own. It is not as " mysterious " (how it can be done) as many may think. Kathy kasayeshua@... Ephesians 1: 3 -- 2: 10 ______________________________ > > I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say " not for internal use " because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC. > > Therese > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Friends, I do not wish to sound controversial, or disagreeable, but Young Living Essential Oils are over-priced. (my personal observation; confirmed by others I know) I know someone who offers essential oils at much lower prices. They can be combined, as in the Four Thieves essential oil blend that many speak of. The ingredients in that mixture are not " a secret. " One can find them online. I've asked someone about this. The one I asked has 30 years experience with organic herbs and with organic essential oils. This person mixes them personally, when it's needed by a customer, and can vouch for the higher quality of the oils being used, as well as offering them at a lower price, because YL is a multi-level marketing " way " to obtain essential oils. Yes, both ways work. One saves you money. And it may provide you with higher-quality essential oils, which means you can get the good results you want, by using less. Just so you know there are other suppliers who offer such healthful mixtures as well as Young Living Essential Oils. And, yes, it is wise to check the details you'd want to know about, for any essential oil you plan to use internally or externally. It does make a difference, as you all know. What I'm writing here are statements to everyone here, for your information. I also agree that oregano and oregano oil, as well as melaleuca alternifolia (sp?), as well as hyssop (dried, cut leaves, flowers & stems, for tea or for making a concentrated tea to drink daily), as well as lavender (especially the essential oil), are very good for building up one's immune system, though they are not all one might wish to use, for that purpose. Buying these in bulk, when possible, is much cheaper. Good quality cod liver oil is a wonderful immune system booster, as well as Kombucha tea, as mentioned in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions, by Sally Fallon. There are many alternatives for building up our immune systems, as you all know. Keep studying. Just please don't limit yourself to one supplier, just because you have not yet tried to mix your own, or asked someone else who knows how to do it, in the right way. We can all learn from those we trust. Am just thankful God led me to someone who does know this can be done, and also encourages me to mix my own. It is not as " mysterious " (how it can be done) as many may think. Kathy kasayeshua@... Ephesians 1: 3 -- 2: 10 ______________________________ > > I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say " not for internal use " because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC. > > Therese > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Friends, I do not wish to sound controversial, or disagreeable, but Young Living Essential Oils are over-priced. (my personal observation; confirmed by others I know) I know someone who offers essential oils at much lower prices. They can be combined, as in the Four Thieves essential oil blend that many speak of. The ingredients in that mixture are not " a secret. " One can find them online. I've asked someone about this. The one I asked has 30 years experience with organic herbs and with organic essential oils. This person mixes them personally, when it's needed by a customer, and can vouch for the higher quality of the oils being used, as well as offering them at a lower price, because YL is a multi-level marketing " way " to obtain essential oils. Yes, both ways work. One saves you money. And it may provide you with higher-quality essential oils, which means you can get the good results you want, by using less. Just so you know there are other suppliers who offer such healthful mixtures as well as Young Living Essential Oils. And, yes, it is wise to check the details you'd want to know about, for any essential oil you plan to use internally or externally. It does make a difference, as you all know. What I'm writing here are statements to everyone here, for your information. I also agree that oregano and oregano oil, as well as melaleuca alternifolia (sp?), as well as hyssop (dried, cut leaves, flowers & stems, for tea or for making a concentrated tea to drink daily), as well as lavender (especially the essential oil), are very good for building up one's immune system, though they are not all one might wish to use, for that purpose. Buying these in bulk, when possible, is much cheaper. Good quality cod liver oil is a wonderful immune system booster, as well as Kombucha tea, as mentioned in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions, by Sally Fallon. There are many alternatives for building up our immune systems, as you all know. Keep studying. Just please don't limit yourself to one supplier, just because you have not yet tried to mix your own, or asked someone else who knows how to do it, in the right way. We can all learn from those we trust. Am just thankful God led me to someone who does know this can be done, and also encourages me to mix my own. It is not as " mysterious " (how it can be done) as many may think. Kathy kasayeshua@... Ephesians 1: 3 -- 2: 10 ______________________________ > > I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say " not for internal use " because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC. > > Therese > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 I have to agree with Therese in the choice of Young Living. After over 10 years I get more and more confirmation as the purest, highest vibration. The blending is done with great information and intuition. Thieves ingredients may not be secret, but the source of the plants used are most likely a different quality, and certainly how they are processed and combined. It's an art, as you know. Your friend may be great in her own right, but as you said, there is a lot to take into consideration. Who is it - is there a website? I don't use Meleleuca any time, as it is suppressive, a natural allopathic. This is true of many substances, and how one can misuse herbology and homeopathy in an allopathic manner. Not saying your other herbs were Kathy, just a general statement. Liz > > > > I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say " not for internal use " because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC. > > > > Therese > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Kathy-I would be interested in contacting this suppler that offers essential oil blends at a better price. Please forward info. Thanks kindly, From: Mrs. (Kathy) Aprile <kasayeshua@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 9:51:06 AMSubject: Re: Essential oils Friends,I do not wish to sound controversial, or disagreeable, but Young Living Essential Oils are over-priced. (my personal observation; confirmed by others I know)I know someone who offers essential oils at much lower prices.They can be combined, as in the Four Thieves essential oil blend that many speak of. The ingredients in that mixture are not "a secret." One can find them online. I've asked someone about this. The one I asked has 30 years experience with organic herbs and with organic essential oils. This person mixes them personally, when it's needed by a customer, and can vouch for the higher quality of the oils being used, as well as offering them at a lower price, because YL is a multi-level marketing "way" to obtain essential oils.Yes, both ways work.One saves you money.And it may provide you withhigher-quality essential oils,which means you can get the goodresults you want, by using less.Just so you know there are other suppliers who offer such healthful mixtures as well as Young Living Essential Oils.And, yes, it is wise to check the details you'd want to know about, for any essential oil you plan to use internally or externally. It does make a difference, as you all know.What I'm writing here are statements to everyone here, for your information. I also agree that oregano and oregano oil, as well as melaleuca alternifolia (sp?), as well as hyssop (dried, cut leaves, flowers & stems, for tea or for making a concentrated tea to drink daily), as well as lavender (especially the essential oil), are very good for building up one's immune system, though they are not all one might wish to use, for that purpose.Buying these in bulk, when possible, is much cheaper. Good quality cod liver oil is a wonderful immune system booster, as well as Kombucha tea, as mentioned in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions, by Sally Fallon. There are many alternatives for building up our immune systems, as you all know.Keep studying. Just please don't limit yourself to one supplier, just because you have not yet tried to mix your own, or asked someone else who knows how to do it, in the right way. We can all learn from those we trust. Am just thankful God led me to someone who does know this can be done, and also encourages me to mix my own. It is not as "mysterious" (how it can be done) as many may think.Kathykasayeshuagmail (DOT) comEphesians 1: 3 -- 2: 10____________ _________ _________>> I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say "not for internal use" because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC.> > Therese> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hi Kathy-I would be interested in contacting this suppler that offers essential oil blends at a better price. Please forward info. Thanks kindly, From: Mrs. (Kathy) Aprile <kasayeshua@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 9:51:06 AMSubject: Re: Essential oils Friends,I do not wish to sound controversial, or disagreeable, but Young Living Essential Oils are over-priced. (my personal observation; confirmed by others I know)I know someone who offers essential oils at much lower prices.They can be combined, as in the Four Thieves essential oil blend that many speak of. The ingredients in that mixture are not "a secret." One can find them online. I've asked someone about this. The one I asked has 30 years experience with organic herbs and with organic essential oils. This person mixes them personally, when it's needed by a customer, and can vouch for the higher quality of the oils being used, as well as offering them at a lower price, because YL is a multi-level marketing "way" to obtain essential oils.Yes, both ways work.One saves you money.And it may provide you withhigher-quality essential oils,which means you can get the goodresults you want, by using less.Just so you know there are other suppliers who offer such healthful mixtures as well as Young Living Essential Oils.And, yes, it is wise to check the details you'd want to know about, for any essential oil you plan to use internally or externally. It does make a difference, as you all know.What I'm writing here are statements to everyone here, for your information. I also agree that oregano and oregano oil, as well as melaleuca alternifolia (sp?), as well as hyssop (dried, cut leaves, flowers & stems, for tea or for making a concentrated tea to drink daily), as well as lavender (especially the essential oil), are very good for building up one's immune system, though they are not all one might wish to use, for that purpose.Buying these in bulk, when possible, is much cheaper. Good quality cod liver oil is a wonderful immune system booster, as well as Kombucha tea, as mentioned in the cookbook Nourishing Traditions, by Sally Fallon. There are many alternatives for building up our immune systems, as you all know.Keep studying. Just please don't limit yourself to one supplier, just because you have not yet tried to mix your own, or asked someone else who knows how to do it, in the right way. We can all learn from those we trust. Am just thankful God led me to someone who does know this can be done, and also encourages me to mix my own. It is not as "mysterious" (how it can be done) as many may think.Kathykasayeshuagmail (DOT) comEphesians 1: 3 -- 2: 10____________ _________ _________>> I agree - Thieves is wonderful stuff, mfr: Young Living Essential Oils. Kills any goobie you could drag home. [Can you tell I'm a mom?] Oregano is a great antiviral, so is melaleuca. Make sure that they do not say "not for internal use" because those are generally streched with synthetics to make them cheap and are just as bad transdermally. Have worked with oils for years and swear by it as well as SC.> > Therese> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Which are the best companies? I use YL but even as a distributor they are so expensive. I've tried many others only to be disappointed. T > > Nieema, > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Our Healing Village (1593) http://beyoungeo.com/ I have used oils from this man for over 4 years. The owner of Young Living and he are brothers. They both have the good oils...I like Dana's better. If you want information on the Essential oils I use go to: http://beyoungeo.com/ Enrollment for free...use # 1593 that is my number Then once enrolled, you can go up and listen to and look at the oils and what you can do with them. Get information about conference calls hang out and learn. Find out how to use them for MRSA and other things like bug off stuff and ways to help your overall body balance. These are the only oils I use...I am not sure about the price compression. Learn from here...by from here or elsewhere...but learn how oils can change your life. From: T <ttarail@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 8:45 AM  Which are the best companies? I use YL but even as a distributor they are so expensive. I've tried many others only to be disappointed. T > > Nieema, > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I use oils from a small company called Imani in Northern Minnesota, http://208.106.220.20/ZenCart/. They import from France. Their oils are less expensive than young living and most have a much higher frequency. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: T <ttarail@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 9:45:05 AM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Which are the best companies? I use YL but even as a distributor they are so expensive. I've tried many others only to be disappointed. T > > Nieema, > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. Please be advised! Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM Subject: Essential Oils Nieema, Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Wil, oil of oregano does more for my candida related discomfort than anything else. What am I supposed to substitute for that? Doug From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM  I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. Please be advised! Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM Subject: Essential Oils Nieema, Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Same here. Never heard oregano oil destroying ones immune system. It stops weird cravings like nothing else for me. And has helped my dental hygiene like nothing else. Will also stated that coconut oil is dangerous to take. I didn't believe that one either. I get a lot of benefit from taking coconut oil. It gives me energy and is anti-viral and anti-bacterial.  -- On Tue, 7/6/10, douglas richey <dglsrichey@...> wrote:  Wil, oil of oregano does more for my candida related discomfort than anything else. What am I supposed to substitute for that? Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Here is a point to consider. When you stop your oil, or what ever supplement, the fungus gets worse, you are doing nothing in regards to healing. Or for that, if you stop taking a non food item and the fungus get worse then you are just practicing symptomology and you are not healing. In my view, candida along with 2,500 other symptoms, are just another symptom of being out of balance with nature, mind/body/spirit. You will spend most of your time and money until this view is taken. Just my view, which I have developed over the last 17 years of helping people deal with candida. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 11:22:35 PM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Wil, oil of oregano does more for my candida related discomfort than anything else. What am I supposed to substitute for that? Doug From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. Please be advised! Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM Subject: Essential Oils Nieema, Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Wil, while your basic tenet of balance makes sense, I don't think it is proof that taking the oil of oregano an extended period is bad. I know nothing of this at this point but would need to see some statistics, not just one case. I will try to investigate it more. Thanks Doug From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. Please be advised! Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM Subject: Essential Oils Nieema, Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Most essential oils have healing properties associated with them. They are oxygen forming and help to restore the body back into balance if it is a good oil. If you need to have an oil that helps with bowel movement that is a good thing...along with the right amount of hydration too. The oils alone do not get the body balanced,,,,but they do help. Another example people use for candida is silver. Silver will destroy the good and the bad bacteria if you do not do it correctly...you must repopulate the gut when taking out the toxins, parasites and candida. People need to take your probiotics along with oils...we eat yogurt or drink the whey from the yogurt ( if there is any whey there..my honey makes his and it comes out like Greek yogurt...the spoon stands up in it. There is not a one stop shopping place to cure..candida. It is a process of getting the body balanced using many things some of which are Essential oils of a quality kind! If you want more information Sharon, sign up at no cost and listen to the conferences and learn more. Oils come from plants flowers and such. I soak cloves, cinnamon, black pepper corns and a few other things for about two weeks..man, it is really strong and will help your teeth gums and much much more. If you ingest it, be prepared to run to the bathroom cause those little friends we all have do not like this combo!!! > > From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> > Subject: Re: Essential Oils > candidiasis > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM > > > > I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. > > These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. > > Please be advised! > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher > > ________________________________ > > From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> > > candidiasis > > Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM > > Subject: Essential Oils > > Nieema, > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > Sharon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Will, you mean that we can heal candidiasis without taking any anti fungals? I also believe candidiasis is not a cause but a consequence, as soon as we are balanced again, it has no reason to exist anymore, still, I guess the healing process is quicker if we add anti fungals? ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 6:03:36 AM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Here is a point to consider. When you stop your oil, or what ever supplement, the fungus gets worse, you are doing nothing in regards to healing. Or for that, if you stop taking a non food item and the fungus get worse then you are just practicing symptomology and you are not healing. In my view, candida along with 2,500 other symptoms, are just another symptom of being out of balance with nature, mind/body/spirit. You will spend most of your time and money until this view is taken. Just my view, which I have developed over the last 17 years of helping people deal with candida. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 11:22:35 PM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Wil, oil of oregano does more for my candida related discomfort than anything else. What am I supposed to substitute for that? Doug From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. Please be advised! Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM Subject: Essential Oils Nieema, Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Yes, I do not use/or suggest the use of medical anti-fungals at all. In my clinic I use MMS to knock down the fungal load. MMS is inexpensive and very effective on candida along with 40 other parasites and pathogens. The candida has been allowed to overgrow its natural parameter because of an imbalance or a depletion of some kind. When the imbalance and/or depletion is corrected the candida goe back to its natural parameters. It just so happens what has been depleted from the food chain is what keeps the candida from overpopulating. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 3:33:14 AM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Will, you mean that we can heal candidiasis without taking any anti fungals? I also believe candidiasis is not a cause but a consequence, as soon as we are balanced again, it has no reason to exist anymore, still, I guess the healing process is quicker if we add anti fungals? ________________________________ From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 6:03:36 AM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Here is a point to consider. When you stop your oil, or what ever supplement, the fungus gets worse, you are doing nothing in regards to healing. Or for that, if you stop taking a non food item and the fungus get worse then you are just practicing symptomology and you are not healing. In my view, candida along with 2,500 other symptoms, are just another symptom of being out of balance with nature, mind/body/spirit. You will spend most of your time and money until this view is taken. Just my view, which I have developed over the last 17 years of helping people deal with candida. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 11:22:35 PM Subject: Re: Essential Oils Wil, oil of oregano does more for my candida related discomfort than anything else. What am I supposed to substitute for that? Doug From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. Please be advised! Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> candidiasis Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM Subject: Essential Oils Nieema, Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Wil You will have to explain MMS. Or send me the book and I will put it n the files. > > From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@...> > Subject: Re: Essential Oils > candidiasis > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM > > I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves > can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. > > These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. > Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by > ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she > is a very sick lady. > > Please be advised! > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher > > ________________________________ > > From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> > > candidiasis > > Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM > > Subject: Essential Oils > > Nieema, > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for > candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but > > no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > Sharon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Nieema, Would you mind posting the entire recipe that you make? Sounds interesting and not too pricey either. By the time many people find out they are suffering from candidiasis they are broke. Thanks! Sharon > > > > From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@> > > Subject: Re: Essential Oils > > candidiasis > > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM > > > > > > > > I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. > > > > These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. > > > > Please be advised! > > > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Sharon <hotmocha@> > > > > candidiasis > > > > Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM > > > > Subject: Essential Oils > > > > Nieema, > > > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > > > Sharon > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 The one with the cloves Sharon? From: Sharon <hotmocha@...> Subject: Re: Essential Oils candidiasis Date: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 11:25 AM  Nieema, Would you mind posting the entire recipe that you make? Sounds interesting and not too pricey either. By the time many people find out they are suffering from candidiasis they are broke. Thanks! Sharon > > > > From: Wil Spencer <wilspencer@> > > Subject: Re: Essential Oils > > candidiasis > > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 10:56 PM > > > > > > > > I will say the long term ingestion of oregano, tea tree, theaves and cloves can/will destroy the immune system and eventually your health. > > > > These oils kill not only fungi, but the bacteria that we need as our immunity. Last week I ran into another young living lady that has destroyed herself by ingesting these oils daily for a long time just like Mr. Young advises and she is a very sick lady. > > > > Please be advised! > > > > Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Sharon <hotmocha@> > > > > candidiasis > > > > Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:55:51 AM > > > > Subject: Essential Oils > > > > Nieema, > > > > Maybe you can tell us more about them. Surely they would be helpful for candida. Oregano oil? Clove? Tea tree? I've heard so many bits and pieces but no solid information about them. If you have some resources, please share! > > > > Sharon > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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