Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Once again you are making assumptions of my searches and words I have used and how I used them. I searched for treatments for my conditions in Western Medicine and only found death in all the treatments which only consisted of those steroids in those study cases studies published. Once again about my condition. Steroid and death . God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: Patilla DaHun <glypella@...> < > Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 1:00:02 AM Subject: [] Death Sentence Mayleen, have you been searching for your source of all the people who have died who have taken cortosteroids? I don't take your death sentence lightly. Please find your sources. Barth www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html Copyright 2011. The content of this post is considered the property of the author and shall not be reproduced, copied, or shared with another e-mail list, public forum, or individual without the written permission of the author. All rights reserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Im sorry but evidently I can handle them short term Have before in the hospital when I got them through IV for asthma always helped. Im done with this conversation. Wish Id never spoke on here what is ok for some may not be ok for others Janet In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:08:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dragonflymcs@... writes: Once again you are making assumptions of my searches and words I have used and how I used them. I searched for treatments for my conditions in Western Medicine and only found death in all the treatments which only consisted of those steroids in those study cases studies published. Once again about my condition. Steroid and death . God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: Patilla DaHun <_glypella@..._ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 from a theoretical point of view, i could see how hc could increase the death rate in people who have been exposed to mold, especially if they take the hc while still living in a wdb. hc will suppress the immune system, so if you are living in a toxic environment and you take hc, which will suppress t cells, the toxins will have the ability to cause greater damage to the body. many people how have been exposed to mold, don't tolerate drugs well at all. what i often see happen is that there are increased side effects to most drugs. this probably has something to do with leaky gut. if you take hc and are living in a clean environment, i'm not sure how hc would effect the already existing internal toxic load (meaning the toxins that are lingering in your body from previous mold or toxic exposure.) it may allow the toxins to spread throughout the body more easily. if anyone has more information about this, please pass it along. > In a message dated 3/2/2011 8:08:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > dragonflymcs@... writes: > > Once again you are making assumptions of my searches and words I have used > and > how I used them. > > I searched for treatments for my conditions in Western Medicine and only > found > death in all the treatments which only consisted of those steroids in > those > study cases studies published. Once again about my condition. Steroid and > death . > > God Bless !! > dragonflymcs > Mayleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Mayleen, is what you are saying that all the research you did people did worse on steriods and then you are extending that to mean eventually they died or did study say within the time of study, all participants in study died? > > Once again you are making assumptions of my searches and words I have used and > how I used them. > > I searched for treatments for my conditions in Western Medicine and only found > death in all the treatments which only consisted of those steroids in those > study cases studies published. Once again about my condition. Steroid and > death . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 just caught the tail end of this conversation...but I would like to say after we moved out of the toxic mold the doctors found eight lesions on my sons brain from an MRI. They ran the MRI because he could not see out of left eye one day. This was like one week after we left the toxic home. I had read Shoemakers book and knew that steroids were not good but could not convince the doctors or my son not to take the 3 days steroids at the hospital. Then the doctors put him on Copaxon. That is a medication for MS. It is a shot he takes once a day. Plus I had him on all kinds of vitamins. Anyway....this past summer he goes back for another MRI and all of lesions were gone. The doctors were amazed and said if he gets another clean MRI this coming summer they will consider taking him off copaxon. Copaxon does not cure MS, but perhaps getting out of a toxic home does. Or perphaps Copaxon cures mold posing. Just a thought. From: momoko_uno <momoko_uno@...> Subject: [] Re: Death Sentence Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 10:09 AM from a theoretical point of view, i could see how hc could increase the death rate in people who have been exposed to mold, especially if they take the hc while still living in a wdb. hc will suppress the immune system, so if you are living in a toxic environment and you take hc, which will suppress t cells, the toxins will have the ability to cause greater damage to the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I have no way of knowing if she did or didn't read such things and in group rules and guidelines it says the members should not get medical advice from here. Obviously Mayleen does not have links to studies so this is her interpretation or memory of what she read. Take that for what it's worth. As I posted just yesterday regarding this, everyone should follow their doctors advice and not Mayleen, or anyone else here for that matter. > >I've already written to > Shoemaker about her prognostication and will today call Sloan > Kettering about it. I'm even shocked that the list moderator never put > an end to it. I've seen some ridiculous things being suggested here, > but to even insinuate to someone that they're doomed in a short time > is a very serious allegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 nothing about this is that black and white. nothing! > > According to the study done on mold victims back in the mid-90s, Mt. > Sinai found brain lesions in the same spot on each person. They do > heal, fortunately. > > > Barth > > www.presenting.net/sbs/sbs.html > > SUBMIT YOUR DOCTOR: www.presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html > > --- > Copyright 2011. The content of this post is considered the property > of the author and shall not be reproduced, copied, or shared with > another e-mail list, public forum, or individual without the written > permission of the author. All rights reserved. > > > lf> just caught the tail end of this conversation...but I would like to say after we moved out of the toxic mold the doctors found eight lesions on my sons brain from an MRI. > > lf> They ran the MRI because he could not see out of left eye one day. This was like one week after we left the toxic home. > > lf> I had read Shoemakers book and knew that steroids were not good but could not convince the doctors or my son not to take the 3 days steroids at the hospital. > > lf> Then the doctors put him on Copaxon. That is a medication for MS. It is a shot he takes once a day. Plus I had him on all kinds of vitamins. > > lf> Anyway....this past summer he goes back for another MRI and all of lesions were gone. The doctors were amazed and said if he gets another clean MRI this coming summer they will consider taking > lf> him off copaxon. Copaxon does not cure MS, but perhaps getting out of a toxic home does. Or perphaps Copaxon cures mold posing. Just a thought. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 For my condition. I did research and found medical literature documentation of multiple case studies. Patient went to ER or Dr, patient admitted and given steroids and all the case studies I found for my condition the patients died. I will not take those for my condition. They stated in the study how long the lived after the treatment. Doses given , patient illness, all. None of them survived. Real case studies from hospitals. They gave them all numbers. case 1, case 2, case3, case 4, etc. . The study was about the illness I have and treatment administered. Not a study were people walked in and volunteered. God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: barb b w <barb1283@...> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:16:08 AM Subject: [] Re: Death Sentence Mayleen, is what you are saying that all the research you did people did worse on steriods and then you are extending that to mean eventually they died or did study say within the time of study, all participants in study died? > > Once again you are making assumptions of my searches and words I have used and > how I used them. > > I searched for treatments for my conditions in Western Medicine and only found > > death in all the treatments which only consisted of those steroids in those > study cases studies published. Once again about my condition. Steroid and > death . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Thanks for sharing that, something else to look into. Great your son is BETTER !!!!!!!!!! God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: leslie ferrell <ferrellstudio@...> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:25:41 AM Subject: Re: [] Re: Death Sentence just caught the tail end of this conversation...but I would like to say after we moved out of the toxic mold the doctors found eight lesions on my sons brain from an MRI. They ran the MRI because he could not see out of left eye one day. This was like one week after we left the toxic home. I had read Shoemakers book and knew that steroids were not good but could not convince the doctors or my son not to take the 3 days steroids at the hospital. Then the doctors put him on Copaxon. That is a medication for MS. It is a shot he takes once a day. Plus I had him on all kinds of vitamins. Anyway....this past summer he goes back for another MRI and all of lesions were gone. The doctors were amazed and said if he gets another clean MRI this coming summer they will consider taking him off copaxon. Copaxon does not cure MS, but perhaps getting out of a toxic home does. Or perphaps Copaxon cures mold posing. Just a thought. : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Exactly. I found the studies and I do not have them as it was done in research for my condition. I did not keep them. I did however post Dr T statements in Sep of 2010. However I did not see that post go threw on my end. I am not giving medical advice to anyone here. I stated what I read with my condition and steroids that were administered. If I had kept the links, studies I would have given them to everyone here as I usually do. That is a lot of work to do again. My memory is picture memory as I have an exceptional brain I have been told by Dr's in the past. And everything I said was regarding my condition which has been taken out of context by a member. God Bless !! dragonflymcs Mayleen ________________________________ From: barb b w <barb1283@...> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:30:26 AM Subject: [] Re: Death Sentence I have no way of knowing if she did or didn't read such things and in group rules and guidelines it says the members should not get medical advice from here. Obviously Mayleen does not have links to studies so this is her interpretation or memory of what she read. Take that for what it's worth. As I posted just yesterday regarding this, everyone should follow their doctors advice and not Mayleen, or anyone else here for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 My friend's son had mold illness, WDB, CRIS, and apergillas in the sinuses. The Dr did not know better , and gave him steroids, it caused the aspergillas to go invasive, lost bone, and organ failure do to toxic overload. May not live. > > from a theoretical point of view, i could see how hc could increase the death rate in people who have been exposed to mold, especially if they take the hc while still living in a wdb. > > hc will suppress the immune system, so if you are living in a toxic environment and you take hc, which will suppress t cells, the toxins will have the ability to cause greater damage to the body. > > many people how have been exposed to mold, don't tolerate drugs well at all. what i often see happen is that there are increased side effects to most drugs. this probably has something to do with leaky gut. > > if you take hc and are living in a clean environment, i'm not sure how hc would effect the already existing internal toxic load (meaning the toxins that are lingering in your body from previous mold or toxic exposure.) it may allow the toxins to spread throughout the body more easily. if anyone has more information about this, please pass it along. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 This is so sad. I hope something changes. Wish there was something we could do. Meredith > > My friend's son had mold illness, WDB, CRIS, and apergillas in the sinuses. The Dr did not know better , and gave him steroids, it caused the aspergillas to go invasive, lost bone, and organ failure do to toxic overload. May not live. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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