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do footbaths really help? I was re exposed today for the first time in four

years. I am usually so carefull.

Janet

In a message dated 2/23/2011 6:00:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

apami@... writes:

Oh Dave I'm so sorry you are going through this. This is like the nightmare

I went through last year when I was looking for a safe place. I lived

mostly outdoors for weeks. I was constantly reacting to something. I have not

been settled since May. But at least I stopped reacting all the time finally

when I started doing footbaths to get the toxins back out and the other

things I told you about before. At least those things are letting me manage

even though I am still exposed to a WDB. If the meds you were prescribed are

not doing that for you maybe you could try those things? At least I am

indoors. It's still cold and winter.

anita

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Oh Dave I'm so sorry you are going through this. This is like the nightmare I

went through last year when I was looking for a safe place. I lived mostly

outdoors for weeks. I was constantly reacting to something. I have not been

settled since May. But at least I stopped reacting all the time finally when I

started doing footbaths to get the toxins back out and the other things I told

you about before. At least those things are letting me manage even though I am

still exposed to a WDB. If the meds you were prescribed are not doing that for

you maybe you could try those things? At least I am indoors. It's still cold

and winter.

anita

---From: Tug

I asked a relative if I could sleep in her back yard and she started crying, she

said I could but it hurt her to see that things have gotten so bad for me.

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Janet,

Sorry to hear about your exposure. Yes, foot baths really do help. They reduce

my symptoms and increase my tolerance. I know someone else who did them too for

mold exposure.

I just use cilantro and distilled water. You can do them for 10 minutes at a

time and do however many you need to. After several times I didn't need to do

them anymore. Then my body wanted charcoal instead. It changes. Now I don't

need to do either. But later my body will need it again. I just have to notice

indications of what it is my body needs and try to keep up.

ap

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> do footbaths really help? I was re exposed today for the first time in four

> years. I am usually so carefull.

> Janet

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That helps me manage too !! Detox and diet, lots of care until you get to

safety. Supplements to improve your system. I am so sorry TOO Dave .

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: anita paulsen <apami@...>

Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 3:56:49 PM

Subject: Re: [] Safe place to live

Oh Dave I'm so sorry you are going through this. This is like the nightmare I

went through last year when I was looking for a safe place. I lived mostly

outdoors for weeks. I was constantly reacting to something. I have not been

settled since May. But at least I stopped reacting all the time finally when I

started doing footbaths to get the toxins back out and the other things I told

you about before. At least those things are letting me manage even though I am

still exposed to a WDB. If the meds you were prescribed are not doing that for

you maybe you could try those things? At least I am indoors. It's still cold

and winter.

anita

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I do full baths in 2 cups of BS or Epson Salts.

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From: " Gingersnap1964@... " <Gingersnap1964@...>

Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 6:48:12 PM

Subject: Re: [] Safe place to live

do footbaths really help? I was re exposed today for the first time in four

years. I am usually so carefull.

Janet

In a message dated 2/23/2011 6:00:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

apami@... writes:

Oh Dave I'm so sorry you are going through this. This is like the nightmare

I went through last year when I was looking for a safe place. I lived

mostly outdoors for weeks. I was constantly reacting to something. I have not

been settled since May. But at least I stopped reacting all the time finally

when I started doing footbaths to get the toxins back out and the other

things I told you about before. At least those things are letting me manage

even though I am still exposed to a WDB. If the meds you were prescribed are

not doing that for you maybe you could try those things? At least I am

indoors. It's still cold and winter.

anita

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> I do full baths in 2 cups of BS or Epson Salts.

>

> I use both, the epson salts pulls toxins out and the Baking soda neutralizes.

It helps if the water is verry hot, at least 100. I also use salts, acutally

mineral salts from Redmond, Utah.

You can add herbs too like rosemary or mint or whateverr youhave.

Meredith

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I asked a relative if I could sleep in her back yard and she started crying,

she said I could but it hurt her to see that things have gotten so bad for me.

>

Sorry you are having such a hard time but glad you have a relative who isn't

thinking you are crazy. Maybe if you can stay there and regroup?

Meredith

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Thank you for all your replies but the strangest thing happened after I created

this thread. I went to my therapist shaking like crazy and overly anxious but my

thinking was unusually clear. Knowing I had gone through a severe benzo w/d that

lasted for years (sleeping disorder) he suggested taking an extremely low dose

of klonopin for 2 weeks and stopping, so I agreed. I went to the gym and my

anxiety was still pretty bad during the workout, when I got home I took .25 mgs

and within 20 minutes the shaking stopped and I felt the best I'd felt in 8

months. Even now that Im writing this at 2:06 in the morning my neck hurts a

little but my thinking is still clear and the depression is non existent. The

house Im currently staying at as far as I know has no mold. I've searched high

and low for it and have gone as far as calling a local remediation company out

to check with walls with a moisture meter and they said they couldn't find

anything. What I am worried about is mycotoxins, knowing the hvac was remediated

incorrectly and my immediate reaction to it tells me I'm still hypersensitive.

Im not sure if the klonopin is masking my symptoms but after moving 6 times

since last October and having to discard my belongings each and every time I'll

take what I can get.

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I used to do bsking soda baths dont know why I stopped but think I need

to again

Janet

In a message dated 2/24/2011 12:32:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

surellabaer@... writes:

I do baths with peroxide or salts. I feel they help detox me.

>

> I do full baths in 2 cups of BS or Epson Salts.

>

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with nerve damage, it doesn't always come down to symptoms being caused by

re-exposure to something, you said your brain was pretty clear, the thing is,

stress can be psychological and/or cause physicological nerve damage.

" stress " in the meaning of physicological damage means stress directly put on

your nervous system like toxin exposure does, that form of stress to the nervous

system is physical nerve damage.

some believe that physicological stress can damage the nervous system, I'd say

it would take a whole lot of psychological stress in a long term situation to do

that if it even could. I've been through some very stressful events in my life

and it never caused physical nervous system damage. yes you can go through a

ruff patch but you usually recover with time and go on. like when you lose a

loved one in a sistuation that may cause stress or anixity, extreme sadness,ect.

thats psychological.

tottally different than physicological nerve damage caused by toxin exposure.

same nervious system, one can affect the other, physical damage to the nervous

system can cause a lot of symptoms when we than deal with stress ,anixity,anger

issues with a damaged nervous system going on.

treating the psychological part doesn't heal the physicological damage. it just

temporarily deals with the psychological issues at that given time.

it may be that you were not dealing with a exposure to anything, just stress,

anixity itself and it presented itself in a different way than you have ever

experienced before your nervous system was damaged by WDB exposure.

>

> Thank you for all your replies but the strangest thing happened after I

created this thread. I went to my therapist shaking like crazy and overly

anxious but my thinking was unusually clear. Knowing I had gone through a severe

benzo w/d that lasted for years (sleeping disorder) he suggested taking an

extremely low dose of klonopin for 2 weeks and stopping, so I agreed. I

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Thank you Jeanine I hope your right. You have to remember that not two weeks ago

I was exposed to mold that was on a couple of 1 " x6 " 's that were under the

kitchen cabinet. When I took them out and put them outside which was a dumb

thing to do I was inhaling millions of spores that were coming from the mold

growth on the boards. I remember drinking some CSM and using the ketoconazole

nasal spray in excess and within a 24 hour period I wasn't feeling great but at

least the neck pain and the debilitating headache I had were gone.

Im not feeling as good as I did yesterday but Im no longer shaking and my

thinking is still somewhat clearer than its been in recent months. Im praying to

the good Lord not just for my own recovery but for everyone whose been effected

by toxic mold. I dont care how bad a person is or how they've wronged someone

else no one deserves to go through this... no one!

>

> with nerve damage, it doesn't always come down to symptoms being caused by

re-exposure to something, you said your brain was pretty clear, the thing is,

stress can be psychological and/or cause physicological nerve damage.

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After my first exposure my girlfriend told me about a foot patch that you apply

to the bottom of your feet when you go to bed out night and in the morning take

the patch off. I tried them for a month and while somewhat expensive the

discoloration on the patch was amazing. Some say its the sweat from your feet

that turns the patch black I cant say for sure. I didnt notice any noticeable

difference in the way I felt and they were a little to expensive to keep using

them so I stopped.

http://www.ehow.com/way_5727652_foot-patch-overnight-detox.html

Another question once you soak in the bathtub with whatever it is you use do you

shower after to remove the toxins that have been secreted from your pores? When

I sauna I was taking a shower at the gym but saw some mold on tile grout not

wanting to take any chances I just wait till I get home to shower now

>

> I do baths with peroxide or salts. I feel they help detox me.

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So glad about the klonopin. I've been having a feeling that the problem at your

current residence is chemical related and not mold. Don't forget that chemicals

will produce a lot of the same reactions as mold and

chemicals are in abundance. Your nose can tell you a lot.

anita

>

> Thank you for all your replies but the strangest thing happened after I

created this thread. I went to my therapist shaking like crazy and overly

anxious but my thinking was unusually clear. Knowing I had gone through a severe

benzo w/d that lasted for years (sleeping disorder) he suggested taking an

extremely low dose of klonopin for 2 weeks and stopping, so I agree

42b

d. I went to the gym and my anxiety was still pretty bad during the workout,

when I got home I took .25 mgs and within 20 minutes the shaking stopped and I

felt the best I'd felt in 8 months. Even now that Im writing this at 2:06 in the

morning my neck hurts a little but my thinking is still clear and the depression

is non existent. The house Im currently staying at as far as I know has no mold.

I've searched high and low for it and have gone as far as calling a local

remediation company out to check with walls with a moisture meter and they said

they couldn't find anything. What I am worried about is mycotoxins, knowing the

hvac was remediated incorrectly and my immediate reaction to it tells me I'm

still hypersensitive. Im not sure if the klonopin is masking my symptoms but

after moving 6 times since last October and having to discard my belongings each

and every time I'll take what I can get.

>

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I agree would not wish this life on my worst enemy

Janet

In a message dated 2/24/2011 8:16:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tug_slug@... writes:

Thank you Jeanine I hope your right. You have to remember that not two

weeks ago I was exposed to mold that was on a couple of 1 " x6 " 's that were

under the kitchen cabinet. When I took them out and put them outside which was

a dumb thing to do I was inhaling millions of spores that were coming from

the mold growth on the boards. I remember drinking some CSM and using the

ketoconazole nasal spray in excess and within a 24 hour period I wasn't

feeling great but at least the neck pain and the debilitating headache I had

were gone.

Im not feeling as good as I did yesterday but Im no longer shaking and my

thinking is still somewhat clearer than its been in recent months. Im

praying to the good Lord not just for my own recovery but for everyone whose

been effected by toxic mold. I dont care how bad a person is or how they've

wronged someone else no one deserves to go through this... no one!

>

> with nerve damage, it doesn't always come down to symptoms being caused

by re-exposure to something, you said your brain was pretty clear, the

thing is, stress can be psychological and/or cause physicological nerve damage.

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lol's as hard as I tried I still didn't get the correct term in all the correct

spots. so corrected and probably still spelled wrong.

> with nerve damage, it doesn't always come down to symptoms being caused by

re-exposure to something, you said your brain was pretty clear, the thing is,

stress can be psychological and/or cause physicological nerve damage.

>

> " stress " in the meaning of physicological damage means stress directly put on

your nervous system like toxin exposure does, that form of stress to the nervous

system is physical nerve damage.

>

> some believe that (>physicological<wrong!) psychological stress can damage the

nervous system, I'd say it would take a whole lot of psychological stress in a

long term situation to do that if it even could. I've been through some very

stressful events in my life and it never caused physical nervous system damage.

yes you can go through a ruff patch but you usually recover with time and go on.

like when you lose a loved one in a sistuation that may cause stress or anixity,

extreme sadness,ect.

> thats psychological.

>

> tottally different than physicological nerve damage caused by toxin exposure.

>

> same nervious system, one can affect the other, physical damage to the nervous

system can cause a lot of symptoms when we than deal with stress ,anixity,anger

issues with a damaged nervous system going on.

>

> treating the psychological part doesn't heal the physicological damage. it

just temporarily deals with the psychological issues at that given time.

>

> it may be that you were not dealing with a exposure to anything, just stress,

anixity itself and it presented itself in a different way than you have ever

experienced before your nervous system was damaged by WDB exposure.

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right, and that could be causeing lingering effects.

> >

> > with nerve damage, it doesn't always come down to symptoms being caused by

re-exposure to something, you said your brain was pretty clear, the thing is,

stress can be psychological and/or cause physicological nerve damage.

>

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