Re: emfs

[Guest guest]

Hello Leah,

We have the BIOPRO Cell Chips on our two cell phones even though we use the

speakerphone 90% of the time.

I also have teh BIOPRO Universal Chips on my two laptop computers.

Additionally, we have one of the BIOPRO Home Harmonizers plugged into an outlet

in the middle of the house.

While I am uncertain as to their efficacy personally, our ND's office which owns

a thermography machine actually did a pre and post scan of a person's head with

and without the chip... The results appear real - less heat generated within the

brain with the cell chip in-place.

The only thing I will note is that at least the Cell Chips *seem* to cause less

agitation in me and less of a sense of a heavy head when I have to be on the

phone.

I'm on the fence, but decided a bit of money spent insurance-wise.

The BEST policy is EMF avoidance. You may want to look into a (relatively)

inexpensive EMF meter like the one I have. It allowed us to make sure there

were no energy fields in the places we located ours and our kids beds, etc.

Kept us from purchasing a house once that lit up like a Christmas tree full of

EMF due to improper/faulty wiring by whomever the electrical contractor was.

Also, helped us to realize why we were so fatigued staying at a relative's home

long-term once (we were sleeping right over some EMF field of the apartment

underneath theirs).

Here's a link (was the most useful meter I've purchased):

http://www.trifield.com/content/trifield-meter/

-Darius

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> Hi,

> I've been reading a lot about EMFs and ways to deal with them. Does anyone

> have any experience with BIOPRO Technology such as cell chips or

> Magnetic/infrared/negative

> ions products such as those made by Nikken? Is this all hoaxy or legit?

> Thanks

> Leah

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[Guest guest]

Hi Leah,

I don't know about EMF devices on the market, whether or not they help

beyond placebo effect-- some may work, but many are cautioned against.

* http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/?p=1096

* Alasdair Philips, an expert who warns about the harmful effects of

EMF's and invented the electrosmog detector, is skeptical about BioPro

and other devices. You can read his column

here:http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/columns/aphilips/index.asp#16

* The radiation research site, which also warns about EMF's, also

once put up a warning about such devices as well, but it's been removed:

http://www.radiationresearch.org/

After reading what experts say, I decided I would only try things that

can be measured by meters to block EMF's, like shielding materials.

* Regarding Trifield meter, it is great for 50/60Hz power line EMF's.

However, the wireless measurement option on it is not sensitive enough.

I was working near a cell tower and Trifield didn't pick up the waves

where I sat, even though they were significant, but another meter did.

* For wireless radiation (RF-EMF), I use the Cornet meter which is

available at lessemf.com (8 GHz Basic RF Meter).

* Intermediate between power line EMF's and RF are the intermediate

frequencies on power lines that you can measure with the Stetzerizer

meter, also available at lessemf.com

If you're looking into shielding materials, the ones offered by lessemf

are expensive. I have discovered some cheaper alternatives.

I agree the best policy is avoidance. One should also unplug cordless

phones and Wi-Fi.

Useful papers on Wi-Fi:

* http://www.emfacts.com/wifi/WiFi_A4_print.pdf

* http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/pdfs/20091005_hhl_wifi.pdf

Useful papers on cordless phones:

*

http://www.electricalpollution.com/documents/08_Havas_EPetition_DECT.pdf

(Petition by Magda Havas)

* http://www.tetrawatch.net/papers/non-stop_dect.pdf (Explains that

DECT isnon-stop)

Note that prior models of cordless phones were only radiating

duringusage. However, the DECT model is non-stop.

Regards,

> >

> > Hi,

> > I've been reading a lot about EMFs and ways to deal with them. Does

anyone

> > have any experience with BIOPRO Technology such as cell chips or

> > Magnetic/infrared/negative

> > ions products such as those made by Nikken? Is this all hoaxy or

legit?

> > Thanks

> > Leah

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Please consider how you can avoid EMF's as much as possible. For a long

time people have suspected mercury in vaccines as playing a role in

autism, and they might be right, but could the combination of mercury +

wireless radiation be especially toxic? Please consider the following:

(1) Carlo/Mareia paper on the wireless impact on mercury excretion in

autistic kids

http://www.buergerwelle.de/pdf/emr_autism_acnem_final_1.pdf

(2) Someone had been fine with mercury amalgam tooth fillings for 15-20

years, until a cell tower went up, after which he experienced symptoms

and was diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia. By removing these fillings

and moving away, his symptoms improved.

See Rau's interview in

http://electromagnetichealth.org/audio-archives-and-more/#patients

(3) Amalgam or amalgam removal is cited in many anecdotes of people who

developed wireless sensitivities:

http://www.feb.se/feb/blackonwhite-complete-book.pdf (Removal can

expose one even more to mercury, if not following proper safety

procedures.)

Wireless radiation by itself, however, also seems to be very harmful:

(1) For the Autism cluster in Brick, NJ, they found a nearby

750,000watts Dopplerweather radar transmitting since 1994. Radar are

microwaves just as cell phones and Wi-Fi and cordless phones are

microwaves.

See

http://www.latitudes.org/articles/electrical_sensitivity_articles.html

(2) Radar operators' children tend to have more incidence of Down's

syndrome. (B. Blake Levitt, Electromagnetic Fields)

(3) A study of pregnant moms using cell phones found increased emotional

disorders of the kids, to the surprise of the researches. See

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news\

/warning-using-a-mobile-phone-while-pregnant-can-seriously-damage-your-b\

aby-830352.html and

(4) Here is a PubMed Hypothesis that RF radiation may have contributed

to autism: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14962625

(5) You wouldn't believe it but people across the country are now

suffering from EMF's / wireless, and this includes both adults and

children.

http://www.emrpolicy.org/news/headlines/emrpi_comment_gn_09_51_fcc_09_31\

..pdf

In other countries around the world, people are starting to take notice,

like European Parliament that voted overwhelmingly in 2009 that

something must be done about the EMF's. US Congress had session in 2008

and 2009 over concerns about cell phones. Here is one example of news

in India:

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main45.asp?filename=Ne050610coverstory.asp

So, you probably don't care so much about the evidence... What can you

do about it? In the last 10-15 years, we have had a phenomenal

increase in " non-stop " wireless technologies. What is critically needed

is to identify them and switch to alternatives that transmit only during

usage, and not non-stop:

(1) Is your cell phone transmitting once an hour, or once a minute?

Some of the newer smart phones send signals at least once per minute.

Older cell phones had standby modes and rarely transmitted when not on a

phone call, maybe once an hour. So even if your parents were fine with

occasional use of old-fashioned phones, you may not be.

(2) Wi-Fi routers, introduced about a decade ago, transmit non-stop even

if no computers are logged in. Wi-Fi computing means very high

exposures right at the body for longer periods of time. Wi-Fi like

other wireless technologies, penetrates through walls, and you may get

it from your neighbors even if you don't use it.

(3) Newer cordless phones (that say DECT on them) transmit 24/7, the

moment the station is plugged in. Older cordless phones only

transmitted during use.

(4) Newer CFL light bulbs (spiral-shaped and energy-efficient) not only

contain mercury, but also contribute to intermediate frequencies on the

wires which emanate into the air. Older incandescent light bulbs don't

have as much of a problem.

(5) Smart Meters are starting to be installed and they transmit

continually.

For more information, see :

http://www.magdahavas.com

http://www.emrpolicy.org/

http://www.electricalpollution.com/

http://www.wireless-precaution.com/

[Guest guest]

Great article. They neglected to leave out one powerful addition to the

explosion of EMF's and the downfall of overall health since 1980.

Specifically- the explosion of vaccines. Many vaccines are loaded with

toxic heavy metals (and other garbage) which are bad enough alone, but add

EMF's to metals and you have quite the disaster.

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:44 PM, sue <svican@...> wrote:

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> some of you may find this interesting, a friend sent it, not sure who

> wrote it, presentation on emfs...

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> Take a look at this presentation which was giving last night in the Bay

> Area to some chemically sensitive people...maybe you have already read it?

> GOOD ONE:

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> *Electropollution and the *

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> *Decline in Health of a Nation*

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> The biggest health threat to the US is electropollution. The explosion of

> iPhones, Blackberries, WiFi, WiMax, video game consoles and even

> remote-control toys has fundamentally changed our electrical environment.

> You can't see it, you can't taste it, you can't touch it; but the air all

> around us is increasingly filled with electromagnetic radiation (EMR) that

> is penetrating our bodies and disrupting our body chemistry - perhaps

> forever.

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[Guest guest]

can you explain the combo? thanks, sue v.

>Great article. They neglected to leave out one powerful addition to the

>explosion of EMF's and the downfall of overall health since 1980.

>Specifically- the explosion of vaccines. Many vaccines are loaded with

>toxic heavy metals (and other garbage) which are bad enough alone, but add

>EMF's to metals and you have quite the disaster.

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>On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:44 PM, sue <svican@...> wrote:

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[Guest guest]

there has been some talk on my other group that excessive heavy metal loads

may attract (conduct?) more EMF's to your body. I'm not sure if there is

proof of this, but it's an interesting theory. If you want to dig deeper

you could probably do an internet search.

I thought it was interesting that the article suggests so many new health

issues are due to the increase in EMF, but never mentions the dramatic

increase in vaccinations.

My personal opinion is that both are detrimental to our health -

L

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:30 PM, sue <svican@...> wrote:

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> can you explain the combo? thanks, sue v.

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> >Great article. They neglected to leave out one powerful addition to the

> >explosion of EMF's and the downfall of overall health since 1980.

> >Specifically- the explosion of vaccines. Many vaccines are loaded with

> >toxic heavy metals (and other garbage) which are bad enough alone, but add

> >EMF's to metals and you have quite the disaster.

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> >On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:44 PM, sue <svican@...<svican%40vican.org>>

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you, I think there are so so many layers, and so many

affronts to our health and happiness coming at us faster than the speed

of light these days... sue v

>I thought it was interesting that the article suggests so many new health

>issues are due to the increase in EMF, but never mentions the dramatic

>increase in vaccinations.

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>My personal opinion is that both are detrimental to our health -

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>L

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>On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:30 PM, sue <svican@...> wrote:

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