Re: My theory, your thoughts - Trigeminal

[Guest guest]

I can see VOC'S and other things along that route that would defenitly affect

the tregiminal nerve. mycotoxins are not soluable but still could cause damage

to tregiminal nerve and tissue damage,ect. possable firbrotic pathways may play

a roll.

I think many mistake other chemicals as mycotoxins.

mycotoxins are sometimes refered to as nanoparticles.

all these things can also damage tissue and get into the blood vessels that are

not protected by much tissue in the nose/sinuses.

alot of things that are toxic could lead to tissue damage, as constant hit on

certain areas can leave some damage, once that tissue is damaged things get in

and/or through.

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> I've ruled out everything, it has to be this, just throwing this out there.

>

> Trigeminal neuralgia can be caused my lipid soluble irritants - Mycotoxins are

lipid soluble. The trigeminal nerve and its sprouts extend to a variety of

areas.

>

> I read this online:

> Fungal volatile compounds may impact the " common chemical sense " which senses

pungency and responds to it. This sense is primarily associated with the

trigeminal nerve (and to a lesser extent the vagus nerve). This mixed (sensory

and motor) nerve responds to pungency, not odor, by initiating avoidance

reactions, including breath holding, discomfort, or paresthesias, or odd

sensations, such as itching, burning, and skin crawling.

>

> Avoidance reactions (new cars, furniture, house, etc.) is everyday life for

me. All of the other symptoms fit too.

>

> I took Dextromethorphan (Cough syrup) and it made my symptoms 90% better.

It's an anti-convulsant. I read about Klonopin as an NMDA antagonist on the

Multiple Chemical Sensitivity board and that worked even better. Carbamezepine

(Tegretol) is an anti-convulsant used to treat Trigeminal Neuralgia. I have a

feeling this will make me feel even better.

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> If you read about Capsaicin, it inhibits the release of Substance P and this

really helps reduce my pain from when I get around what I feel must be

mycotoxins.

>

> Has anyone tried treating for Trigeminal Neuralgia (this would be the atypical

kind without (for me at least) the stabbing facial pain?

>

> Can anyone else on here just envision a mycotoxin floating into the nose

sinuses, landing on one of the three trigeminal nerve branches, causing

inflammation, resulting in flight or fight and a slew of other neuropathic

symptoms?

>

> The trigeminal nerve can cause face tingling, jaw clenching, swallowing

issues, eustachian/inner ear myoclonus and a variety of other nervous system

issues.

>

> So if I can stop the trigeminal nerve from firing, can I stop the mycotoxin

related agony?

>

> Thanks,

> Tom

>

> I'm not a doctor, these particles can land on my lungs and skin all day and I

don't react like many of you, it's simply through my nose.

>

[Guest guest]

This is an interesting post! I don't know that mycotoxins float like particles

(but then, what do I know), but I'm sure there's some route through which this

nerve could be affected--it would explain a host of things for myself, too! I'm

going to go look this up--thanks! Can't believe how much information people

bring to this list--all great!

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On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:41 PM, " shom41 " <shom41@...> wrote:

I've ruled out everything, it has to be this, just throwing this out there.

Trigeminal neuralgia can be caused my lipid soluble irritants - Mycotoxins are

lipid soluble. The trigeminal nerve and its sprouts extend to a variety of

areas.

[Guest guest]

Yes Aimee, they float on particles.

>

> This is an interesting post! I don't know that mycotoxins float like particles

(but then, what do I know), but I'm sure there's some route through which this

nerve could be affected--it would explain a host of things for myself, too! I'm

going to go look this up--thanks! Can't believe how much information people

bring to this list--all great!

>

[Guest guest]

I've read too that at least some mycotoxins might be lipid soluable, I've read

both that say some are,some are not.

>

> I've ruled out everything, it has to be this, just throwing this out there.

>

> Trigeminal neuralgia can be caused my lipid soluble irritants - Mycotoxins are

lipid soluble. The trigeminal nerve and its sprouts extend to a variety of

areas.

>

[Guest guest]

So does this mean there is no way to reverse this damage?

Hell, its like a living hell! Something has to help with the pain.

Some days are better than others.

nne~

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> I've ruled out everything, it has to be this, just throwing this out there.

>

> Trigeminal neuralgia can be caused my lipid soluble irritants - Mycotoxins are

lipid soluble. The trigeminal nerve and its sprouts extend to a variety of

areas.

>

[Guest guest]

six years later and Im still sick God Bless

In a message dated 9/19/2010 10:38:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

Roxygardens@... writes:

So does this mean there is no way to reverse this damage?

Hell, its like a living hell! Something has to help with the pain.

Some days are better than others.

nne~

>

> I've ruled out everything, it has to be this, just throwing this out

there.

>

> Trigeminal neuralgia can be caused my lipid soluble irritants -

Mycotoxins are lipid soluble. The trigeminal nerve and its sprouts extend to a

variety of areas.

>