Re: Healing the Brain

[Guest guest]

Wanted to share my experiences with you about my brain and what I'm doing to get

better.

9 years ago I was sleeping on a very moldy mattress and had no clue back then

that it was causing me all the problems I was having. I had been taking

medication and did a lot of cleansing to get off of them and thought all this

new awful stuff I was going through was because of the klonopin I had been on.

The way the klonopin affected me when I first took it is what was happening

again, but even worse and more so. Now I am sure that most of what I went

through was not the meds but the mold. And did it ever affect my brain.

Probably more than any other symptoms.

My mind felt like it was stuck, like a tractor stuck in the mud is how I always

thought of it. It felt like a physical thing in my brain. It affected my

speech and my abiltiy to articulate. I had great difficulty following a

conversation. I could not listen to music, my brain did not want to process it.

Processing talk and music felt like a kind of physical painful chunkiness. When

people talked it often was like a bunch of words floating through the air that

did not connect to mean anything and as soon as they were spoken they were gone.

Sometimes it felt like certain thoughts I had were twisting my brain.

When a group of people were talking I could not follow what was being said and

would be surprised when everyone would start laughing. I had missed the joke.

If a lot of people were talking very animatedly it felt like a lot of balls were

being thrown at me very fast and hard and no way could they be caught. My mind

felt unable to process and handle it all and would completely tune out.

Once an insurance guy was trying to explain something to me on the phone and it

hurt my mind trying to follow what he was saying and understand it, very

painful. One time I was asked a question and I could feel the answer come up

very very slowly from somewhere far far away. I could feel/see the answer

slowly come up as if from a very deep well. Explaining things was very painful.

I did not feel like I had the mental energy to explain things and often didn't.

I had a lot of disturbing images/thoughts/words come into my mind as well, very

foreign to me. I lost a lot of my vocabulary and was always coming across words

that I'd forgotten and was glad to be reminded of so I could use them again.

These are just some of what I went through with my brain. You mentioned losing

your sense of self. It was similar with me, I felt like a stranger to myself,

and this lasted for more than two years (the exposure continued for a long

time). I was also unable to stand up for myself or to confront people for 4

years. But after my removal from the exposure my ability to confront came back.

Since then I have been reexposed to mold many times for long periods of time

because I was unaware of it, and in fact only found out last year that mold has

been the cause of my MCS and so many other health issues. Each time I was

reexposed my mind was affected. But each time I did detoxing and took my

protocols I got better and could think more clearly again. I know the brain can

heal and I am sure you will get better. I still do not feel like myself but am

also in a WDB, and even so doing detoxing and taking my protocols is helping me

slowly feel better.

This is what has been helping me:

*Detoxing (foot baths and charcoal)

*Herbal antifungals to kill the mold

*Probiotics

*Glutathione

*Immune booster (not sure what I'm taking but got it at the health store and

it's working well)

*Foods and eating (like spirulina and apple and would be lots of veg's if I

could, especially cruciferous veg's) to support GI healing.

I know the body can heal itself of anything (just about) if given the chance.

Toxins out, good stuff in.

Best wishes

anita

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Hey, I havn't really been able to find anything in any toxic mold site about

ways to heal the brain. It's been since November that I've been free of my

carpet that had mold in it and it's been a struggle every day. My brain's gone

from complete devastation to inching along in healing. The sense of self that I

lost years ago is starting to heal itself almost in little platelets one by one

in the brain starting in the center and working outward. It's a very, very

strange and difficult place to be in because I know it won't be tomorrow or the

day after or next week that I'll be better. I don't know when it'll be. It only

makes so much progress in a day and I'm wondering who has or is going through

the same thing. I know mold caused this and I've seen the term " brain fog " all

over the internet but with no real suggestions on how to heal it. For me it

wasn't just fog, it was total destruction of reality. But it can't be that

uncommon. Maybe those who have experienced this as well never made it out?

[Guest guest]

Wow, that is all so similar to what I've been experiencing since I was 15. I

know exactly, exactly what you mean by words having no meaning. It was like

nothing had any meaning. I stopped understanding why people laughed. It was as

if they were maniacally laughing AT you. Like everyone was somewhat evil, I

suppose. Because it was like there was no such thing as contentment, a good

place to be coming from so when people laughed it was simply to degrade others.

And when people would and somewhat still, look me in the eye it was like they

were attacking me, telling me to do something I couldn't do. For me, it was the

mold in my carpet and bathroom wall. The mold in my carpet got there from a leak

in the wall of my closet that caused this thick black mold to build up on

everything and wasn't discovered until a couple years ago, and I never had a

chance to get better because of the residual mold in the carpet. I mean, I know

it sucks that this is happening at

all and has happened to you, but it's comforting to know someone else shares

this horrible pain. And that it can be overcome. I've been healing so much

faster since we removed the carpet in November than I thought was possible in

the years this has been happening to me. I still can't speak too well. Thinking

and writing this has only within maybe the past day or two become manageable. I

had to work at Walgreens as a cashier during the worst of it! Oh my God, people

hated me. Mostly the cutsomers. Because I would never converse with them. I

would never laugh at their jokes. They just really had no idea the horrible

world I was viewing and living in. I didn't wanna be defeated by it, but I knew

I had to quit, even though it was a great job, because there was no way I could

fake it and do the job properly. Just organizing the aisles was like me dragging

my feet through thick mud up to my knees while others were able to sprint

through it. So what kind of

product of glutathione do you use? I just found out this was a good thing to

take like yesterday and wanna start taking it. I really think you should try

using phosphatidylserine and lecithin and magnesium/calcium tablets. Those

things have really helped me out the most so far. I take shakes every day of

fruit mixed with whey protein isolate and lecithin granules. Every day there's a

new improvement to be observed. I can't rest yet though until I'm fully out of

this place.

Why were you taking klonopin? I also took klonopin for 5 years until I realized

I didn't wanna live with this feeling anymore, and once I weened myself off of

it I realized it wasn't the klonopin at all that was causing it. I also took

zoloft, cymbalta, and some other anti depressants. For nothing, I was never

depressed. It was all just uncontrollable anxiety. It hit me in the second year

of high school. Worst thing ever. The looks, my God. The comments. I was like

pretty cool, in my estimation, beforehand, and friends with most people. School

in general was a nice place for me. And then the anxiety and mental handicaps.

Man. I got one good year out of it.

I have experienced the exact same thing with words and vocabulary and

confrontation. I miss my sense of self. It's scary to feel like a stranger in

your own body. Even my dreams are uncomfortable. Extraordinarily frightening,

melancholy ways of existing. So much so one would think they were in a different

dimension or reality. I also have though flashing images and thoughts all the

time. During the day it mostly manifests itself as sudden flashbacks to

embarrassing and frustrating experiences I've gone through and in some ways

tourettes like thoughts. I'll think negative things I don't feel at for

negativity's sake. But it's not a normal thought, more like a flashing thought.

Mostly I think I can contain to simply playing a song over and over but if I

don't it's utterly pointless and random gibbering. Kinda funny when looked at

from afar but frustrating to live with. When I'm asleep it fully manifests

itself and it's even worse when I'm in between sleep

and consciousness. It was a lot worse so I feel that it will entirely go away

one day.

I believe that I'm coming back though and I will be able to speak up for myself

and feel myself again. Thanks so much for responding and sharing your experience

with me.

From: anita paulsen <apami@...>

Subject: Re: [] Healing the Brain

Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 4:27 PM

Wanted to share my experiences with you about my brain and what I'm doing to get

better.

[Guest guest]

>

> How long has it been for you since you removed yourself from the toxic

environment? How long have you been healing? I found phosphatidyl serine started

helping me out more. Yeah, I hate the dissocation. Hate it. I just want that to

go away. And the slowness. It's like a nightmare. Like an existential nightmare.

I have been out of the building for three years. But I have ahd a couple bad

exposures to chemicals. I never used to have any problem with anything, I used

to work on cars and I would use the brake cleaner at the end of the day to clean

my hands!!!!

One time I was in a carpet store for about 30 minutes and two days later I

couldn't get out of bed. Another time I was given lots of lung tests on a

stupid machine with black rubberr baffles, two days later. All my joints

swelled up, I have never fully recovered, and now i can't be around rubber. I

have to run past the tires at Costco.

And all this makes me slow and stupid. And the dissociation is a whole other

story. Even when I feel physically okay it seems to linger. Existential

nightmare it is, and undefinable to others.

Nice to have crazy friends eh?

Meredith

[Guest guest]

It's not crazy. It's crippling. Brain fog. I'm not crazy, I just don't feel

intelligent in any way. Not how any of my life has ever been, excluding the six

years of this which doesn't feel real in any way and I don't count it as

anything reflecting my proper self at all. I'm a smarter person than most... but

not anymore and I can't feel it, show it, and I get looked at like a strange

idiot. What did I do? Really.

From: fontanafool <productionking04@...>

Subject: [] Re: Healing the Brain

Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 6:29 PM

>

> How long has it been for you since you removed yourself from the toxic

environment? How long have you been healing? I found phosphatidyl serine started

helping me out more. Yeah, I hate the dissocation. Hate it. I just want that to

go away. And the slowness. It's like a nightmare. Like an existential nightmare.

I have been out of the building for three years. But I have ahd a couple bad

exposures to chemicals. I never used to have any problem with anything, I used

to work on cars and I would use the brake cleaner at the end of the day to clean

my hands!!!!

One time I was in a carpet store for about 30 minutes and two days later I

couldn't get out of bed. Another time I was given lots of lung tests on a

stupid machine with black rubberr baffles, two days

[Guest guest]

>

> It's not crazy. It's crippling. Brain fog. I'm not crazy, I just don't feel

intelligent in any way. Not how any of my life has ever been, excluding the six

years of this which doesn't feel real in any way and I don't count it as

anything reflecting my proper self at all. I'm a smarter person than most... but

not anymore and I can't feel it, show it, and I get looked at like a strange

idiot. What did I do? Really.

I used to teach pre-calc and I would have probelms explain things. All of a

sudden I could not for the life of me remember what to say. Then I would make

mistakes and have to correct them.

I used to score really high on IQ tests but last time aI took one it was

mediocre. Not quit an imbecile!!!

My strengths are now weaknesses, like spacial-visual learning. And I have no

follow through with thoughts, no problem solving techniques.

And what was a weakness is now a profound problem.

Physialy the same thing. I used to have poor vission now it stinks. I used to

have great hearing now it's bad. I used to be ambidexterous now I am a klutz

with both hands. Breaking and dropping things, etc.

I am looking at the phosphatidyl serine. Which one do you take? I usually buy

from Swansons online. Do you know who they are? Much cheaper.

Meredith

[Guest guest]

Hey, Meredith. Sorry I never replied. I just started focusing on it all again.

Yeah, the phosphatidylserine is a real help. I've been taking three with each

meal, which I know is a lot but it's the only way I get enough progress in one

day to keep from killing everything in sight. Did you ever check it out? You

know, the memory stuff and the huge cognitive deficits the size of the grand

canyon are one thing, but there's so much more to it than anyone talks about.

It's like our ability to individuals, not in another sense is taken away.

Like... our ability to feel for ourselves. Not just think for ourselves, but

feel for ourselves, be our own selves. To have our own story. Have our own soul.

It's numbed. Disgusting. Disgustingly bad. I need it back and quick. So do you.

Everyone here. I wish someone famous or influential would be stricken by this so

that they would be listened to, maybe, and research would be done to find out

how to correct it. Unfortunately that person in question would probably just be

put on prescription pills. antipsychotics. or something.

Anyway. I looked up to sparrow Phosphatidylserine, and it is a good price. But

how is the quality and its effectiveness? That's what I'm wondering.

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