Re: AAEM News: TO ALL SMOKERS.

[Guest guest]

Wow. Once again I did not catch the original post yet but @Jeanine, you have

always hit it right on the mark. I of course agree with you 100%. I will also

add that Dr. Shoemaker has said the same thing basicly. Im sure I have mentioned

it before but my dads sisters husband died of lung cancer. He had never smoked,

always avoided being around ANY smokers and in the middle of nowhere during a

routine check up he found out and was dead within a few months or so. Ide add

to, in this smoke free nasty city of Montgomery. Every few days a truck goes by

every street twice spraying some chemical supposedly for mosquito's. It smells

for several hours.

I will add one bit of information I dont know who all knows about. I have been

reluctant to bring this up for obvious reasons but here it is. Are you aware of

the (they did this in the middle of the night sometime) new FSC (fire saftey

cigarettes) cigarettes? Seems like an oxymoron to me. If you are not familiar

with this PLEASE read this article.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-11705-NY-Holistic-Body--Spirit-Examiner~y2009\

m7d12-Are-the-new-FSC-firesafe-cigarettes-making-smokers-sicker-than-ever 

    

If your interested here is a petition I have found. If nothing else it is VERY

interesting to look at the comments here. @Jeanine. Everything you said is

absolutly correct, until now. My dad is still able to get the NON FSC cigs at

the base, but when I have to grab a pack at the store or something my body goes

haywire. It is more noticeable of a difference I cant stand it.. I enjoy a good

cigarette now and then, but these make me ill and want to quit. If they stay

like this I will quit. I am not going to let anyone purposley poisen me if I can

help it. There is enough bombarding our bodies as it is. Happy reading... :-) 

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-laws 

 

________________________________

From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 6:19:53 PM

Subject: [] Re: AAEM News: Minner v Am Mortgage [sBS, " MCS " ,

Daubert,...

 

I agree with Sharon, smoking has nothing to do with toxic mold exposure from a

WDB. I smoked before,during and after, while I DID

get much better, while practiceing advoidance after my WDB exposure.

evertything is about dose people. and to a point, genetics.

[Guest guest]

yes, how could one not know the difference. prince albert is not quite

the same but better than that nasty stuff, but I could never stand to smoke much

of one of those either,because of no filter.

so I've been cutting down on buying cig's because they go out after a couple of

drags and thats about how I smoke anyway.

so I know it's right there and take the lighter to it and burn it off.

what well they blame everything on when no one smokes cig's anymore.

so, I was going to see if they made filters to stick a roll your own in.

it really is about the stupiedest thing I've ever seen done.

so, it's made me realize that I hold a cig more than I smoke it.

oh well, guess I well go have a carpet glue cig and a oil spill glass of

water,

>

> Wow. Once again I did not catch the original post yet but @Jeanine, you have

always hit it right on the mark. I of course agree with you 100%. I will also

add that Dr. Shoemaker has said the same thing basicly.

[Guest guest]

Jeanine. We need to go have lunch one day. Anyway here is something I am

considering. With this thing you can pretty much pick your tabaco and the

" tubes " they call them, have filters and look like it would be the same thing as

a regular cigarette but without the chemicals??? I plan on quiting and think I

am ready to do it but for now this might be a decent alternative. Ill talk to

you a bit more later on the other post.

http://www.carolinacartons.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=CC & \

Category_Code=RYO

Chris...

________________________________

From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 8:51:40 AM

Subject: [] Re: AAEM News: TO ALL SMOKERS.

 

yes, how could one not know the difference. prince albert is not quite

the same but better than that nasty stuff, but I could never stand to smoke much

of one of those either,because of no filter.

so I've been cutting down on buying cig's because they go out after a couple of

drags and thats about how I smoke anyway.

so I know it's right there and take the lighter to it and burn it off.

what well they blame everything on when no one smokes cig's anymore.

so, I was going to see if they made filters to stick a roll your own in.

it really is about the stupiedest thing I've ever seen done.

so, it's made me realize that I hold a cig more than I smoke it.

oh well, guess I well go have a carpet glue cig and a oil spill glass of

water,

[Guest guest]

Hey Guys,

I don't think smoking is good for one's health. If people smoke " they "

should quit.

But I also KNOW it had nothing to do with me being sick after a bad

remediation in my home as it was a constant before, during and after my being

sick.

I have wondered about this one: When at my sickest and experiencing brain

fog, sometimes a cigarette would help to clear my head. What is that all

about?

Sharon

In a message dated 5/31/2010 10:10:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ur_shtnme@... writes:

Jeanine. We need to go have lunch one day. Anyway here is something I am

considering. With this thing you can pretty much pick your tabaco and the

" tubes " they call them, have filters and look like it would be the same thing

as a regular cigarette but without the chemicals??? I plan on quiting and

think I am ready to do it but for now this might be a decent alternative.

Ill talk to you a bit more later on the other post.

(http://www.carolinacartons.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=CC\

& Category_Code=RYO)

Chris...

[Guest guest]

It's been years since I left my toxic workplace but now I can't stand to

be anywhere near smoke at all!!!! Even if they are outside and it drifts in

through an open door I get a terrible headache. The odor just seems to

stick to me like glue until I can get a shower and wash it all off including my

clothes.

Probably the relaxing affect nicotine has on people may dilate the blood

vessels and you get more oxygen to your head, better circulation,

temporarily of course because ultimately the smoke particles are polluting your

lungs

and cutting down on oxygen your lungs can take in.

[Guest guest]

Probably the relaxing affect nicotine has on people may dilate the blood vessels

and you get more oxygen to your head, better circulation, temporarily of course

because ultimately the smoke particles are polluting your lungs and cutting down

on oxygen your lungs can take in.

>

> Hey Guys,

>

> I don't think smoking is good for one's health. If people smoke " they "

> should quit.

>

> But I also KNOW it had nothing to do with me being sick after a bad

> remediation in my home as it was a constant before, during and after my being

> sick.

>

> I have wondered about this one: When at my sickest and experiencing brain

> fog, sometimes a cigarette would help to clear my head. What is that all

> about?

>

> Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

Masking

.. .

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

(fm my Blackberry)

Re: [] Re: AAEM News: TO ALL SMOKERS.

Hey Guys,

I don't think smoking is good for one's health. If people smoke " they "

should quit.

But I also KNOW it had nothing to do with me being sick after a bad

remediation in my home as it was a constant before, during and after my being

sick.

I have wondered about this one: When at my sickest and experiencing brain

fog, sometimes a cigarette would help to clear my head. What is that all

about?

Sharon

In a message dated 5/31/2010 10:10:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

ur_shtnme@... writes:

Jeanine. We need to go have lunch one day. Anyway here is something I am

considering. With this thing you can pretty much pick your tabaco and the

" tubes " they call them, have filters and look like it would be the same thing

as a regular cigarette but without the chemicals??? I plan on quiting and

think I am ready to do it but for now this might be a decent alternative.

Ill talk to you a bit more later on the other post.

(http://www.carolinacartons.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=CC\

& Category_Code=RYO)

Chris...

[Guest guest]

Sam, yea. I was going to say that about coffee, too, in one of my prior

posts but stuck with the cigarettes. But when I was at my sickest, when

having brain fog, a cup of coffee and/or a cigarette made a TREMENDOUS

difference in the way I felt. While good wholesome fresh fruit would make me

feel

worse. Orange juice was the worst. I still can't tolerate much of that to

this very day.

In a message dated 5/31/2010 8:46:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

yaddayadda53@... writes:

That what I've been told about coffee too, which on occassion does that for

me. It is a weird experience where for anywhere from a few minutes to an

hour or so I'll feel like my old self. Awake, clearer headed, etc. Sam

Masking

.. .

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Subject: Re: [] Re: AAEM News: TO ALL SMOKERS.

I have wondered about this one: When at my sickest and experiencing brain

fog, sometimes a cigarette would help to clear my head. What is that all

about?

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I should correct the below to add the caveat, except when I was going thru

herxheimer (which I did about 3 times, because I would take anti-fungals

and my UC doctors would tell me to stop and then I would take them again cuz

I could tell they were wrong that I should stop), during those times, both

coming and going, a little sip of oj would help ease the discomfort. I

honestly do not know where I would be today had I not been fortunate enough to

come under the treatment of Dr. Marinkovich. I miss him as both a

physician and a human being.

In a message dated 5/31/2010 8:58:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

snk1955@... writes:

While good wholesome fresh fruit would make me feel

worse. Orange juice was the worst. I still can't tolerate much of that to

this very day.

[Guest guest]

That what I've been told about coffee too, which on occassion does that for me.

It is a weird experience where for anywhere from a few minutes to an hour or so

I'll feel like my old self. Awake, clearer headed, etc. Sam

Masking

.. .

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Subject: Re: [] Re: AAEM News: TO ALL SMOKERS.

I have wondered about this one: When at my sickest and experiencing brain

fog, sometimes a cigarette would help to clear my head. What is that all

about?

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I just cant find any reasoning to the masking thing. I just think it's all about

the dose. I dont think any part of exposure in a WDB is masked, I think were

just suffering so much and all the symptoms all together and only seperate

afterwards, this allowing us to start reconizeing effects that we didn't

reconize before.

I was a mess, what I reconized is what hurt most at the time.

I started reconizeing things that bothered me right after my exposure

even though I had know Idea what it meant, or why, I was still a mess because I

had no clue than that I needed to avoid chemicals and toxins,but I remember

things like cut grass, someones purfumes,ect. were just makeing me fell worse,

so much so that I felt very angry and had uncontrolable rage if I couldn't get

away from it.

I dont think that during my exposure,while my head was swelling, my ability to

think about much of anything, or remeber that I put the tolit paper in the

freezer and why I did that and why I couldn't remember doing that, would be a

masking of the later,obvious brain fog/seizure type effects that I came to

reconize that I had after being out of the WDB and finally learning something

about advoiding things that kept me in that tottal state of confusion.

I just dont believe there was any masking to it, it was advoidance and only

advoidance that calmed down my many,many symptoms enough that I could start

seperateing them somewhat instead of just being a total mess in zombie land.

with this illness and even now, nothing is masked, I get exposed to something

and wiether I smell it or not, I know because of the effects, that I've been

exposed to something.

if it's in a high enough dose, I know it.

if it's not, I may reconize little or no affects.

I also know that there are things that dont cause any obvious chemical reaction

at all but still can make me fell quite bad.

>

> Masking

> . .

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

> (fm my Blackberry)

>

> Re: [] Re: AAEM News: TO ALL SMOKERS.

>

> Hey Guys,

>

> I don't think smoking is good for one's health. If people smoke " they "

> should quit.

>

> But I also KNOW it had nothing to do with me being sick after a bad

> remediation in my home as it was a constant before, during and after my being

> sick.

>

> I have wondered about this one: When at my sickest and experiencing brain

> fog, sometimes a cigarette would help to clear my head. What is that all

> about?

>

> Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

ssr, does it cause a chemical sensitivity reaction? or always give you a

headacke? how much do you have to smell of it to give you a headacke? does other

things give you a headacke, like ragweeds, dust,

purfumes,cooking smells? is it because of the smells clinging to your cloths

that you keep smelling it and it gives you a headacke? the cross contamination

thing? is it a sinus headacke that you get?

>

>

> It's been years since I left my toxic workplace but now I can't stand to

> be anywhere near smoke at all!!!! Even if they are outside and it drifts in

> through an open door I get a terrible headache. The odor just seems to

> stick to me like glue until I can get a shower and wash it all off including

my

> clothes.

>

> Probably the relaxing affect nicotine has on people may dilate the blood

> vessels and you get more oxygen to your head, better circulation,

> temporarily of course because ultimately the smoke particles are polluting

your lungs

> and cutting down on oxygen your lungs can take in.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Increased oxygen to the brain is just a guess as far as nicotine is concerned

but drinking some coffee definately increases oxygen to the brain but for a

different reason than I think nicotine might, it increases your heart rate. If

you drink too much it can go the other way, adds tension, narrows blood vessels

and dimishes oxygen to the brain. Since oxygen brings down inflamation, and

migraines are inflamation of a blood vessel, drinking some coffee can stop a

migraine if taken early enough, hyperbaric oxygen does, sometimes oxygen mask is

enough. The added oxygen, makes you feel more alert.

>

> That what I've been told about coffee too, which on occassion does that for

me. It is a weird experience where for anywhere from a few minutes to an hour or

so I'll feel like my old self. Awake, clearer headed, etc. Sam

>

>

[Guest guest]

Should have been more clear. I think masking does occur. I just meant

masking does not explain the phenomenon as it relates to smoking and ill

health from WDB.

New Paper out of Sweden - I have not read it in its entirety.

_http://www.springerlink.com/content/5p210355w2glxw31/_

(http://www.springerlink.com/content/5p210355w2glxw31/)

Regarding the Masking Index, “maskingâ€

can be described as a hidden cause, and occurs when the

inXicted person does not realize that the symptoms are due

to routine or regular exposure to a substance. It has been

suggested that overlapping symptoms resulting from everyday

exposures to chemicals may mask the individual’s

awareness of their intolerances as well as the intensity of

their responses to environmental exposures ( 1997).

The Masking Index is based on the model of toxicantinduced

loss of tolerance ( 2001a), proposing a toxicological

explanation for the intolerance, and that masking

tends to hide the relationship between an individual’s symptoms

and triggering exposures. Although the authors of the

present paper do not fully share the view of a toxicological

explanation, information about additional chemical exposure,

provided by the Masking Index, may be useful.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

does anyone know what the long-term effects of doing oxygen therapy are

on the lungs, good or bad? Have any studies been done? My son was

diagnosed w/small airways obstructive disorder by Dr. Gray and w/

vasculitis by Dr. Rea. Dr. Rea has him do 2 hours of oxygen w/a mask

per day, said it would help the vasculitis and wouldn't hurt the lungs,

in fact would also be healing to the lungs I think. Now he is done w/

the oxygen therapy but can use it when he wants, if he wants. At this

point he doesn't want to use it. Obviously breathing pure oxygen under

pressure isn't natural, so just wondering if anyone has studied it.

ALso, DR. Gray had put him on nebulized glutathione, Dr. Rea says that

can irritate and damage the lungs, anyone know if studies have been done

on this??

thanks, sue v.

>Increased oxygen to the brain is just a guess as far as nicotine is

>concerned but drinking some coffee definately increases oxygen to the

>brain but for a different reason than I think nicotine might, it

>increases your heart rate. If you drink too much it can go the other

>way, adds tension, narrows blood vessels and dimishes oxygen to the

>brain. Since oxygen brings down inflamation, and migraines are

>inflamation of a blood vessel, drinking some coffee can stop a migraine

>if taken early enough, hyperbaric oxygen does, sometimes oxygen mask is

>enough. The added oxygen, makes you feel more alert.

>

>

>>

>> That what I've been told about coffee too, which on occassion does

>that for me. It is a weird experience where for anywhere from a few

>minutes to an hour or so I'll feel like my old self. Awake, clearer

>headed, etc. Sam

>>

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue piping in here, my son is totally masked and yet I know without

doubt that mold is problematic for him both toxicity and allergy wise, I

think he is masked because he is suffering from multiple toxicities and

is allergic to everything. Until you get away from enough of the

triggers, you are not going to have a clue, also even if you get away

from external mold, if it's still in your body, then are you going to

feel better? And finally, if you are doing everything you can to

disconnect from your bodily feelings in order to cope with the chronic

pain, then that is another factor interfering w/understanding what is

bothering you and when. Another patient here at Dr. Rea's clinic told

me that men tend to be masked more often than women. Dr. Rea believes

in masking btw, at least according to an interview I read online.

sue

>Jeannine and Carl,

>

>I have to agree with Jeannine. The whole masking theory with regard to

>this phenomenon never made sense to me, either. It is just so odd that Sue

>has become so sensitive to cigarette smoke after exposure (I know that this

>hold true for some others, too). While for smokers, it seemed to help them

>thru...but they are sensitive to other exposures. I have always thought

>there is something about this that might be helpful to understanding

>environmental illness and chemical sensitivity as a whole. But I don't

>know what it

>is.

>

>Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't speak for all, but no. I was different. Not a relaxing effect.

A brain fog clearing effect when at my sickest. Similar to the effect of

Dr. M's nasal spray that I took a little later. Who knows? Sometimes I feel

like the more you understand about this issue, the less you understand

about this issue!

In a message dated 6/1/2010 3:30:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

barb1283@... writes:

I was talking about the relaxing effect smokers say they get from

nicotine. I don't think people get a relaxing or pleasant effect from second

hand

smoke. Relaxing effect may be satisfying craving they have developed from

being a smoker but I'm out of my element here, not a smoker, just repeating

what I hear smokers say, that it relaxes them.

>

>

> It's been years since I left my toxic workplace but now I can't stand to

> be anywhere near smoke at all!!!! Even if they are outside and it drifts

in

> through an open door I get a terrible headache. The odor just seems to

> stick to me like glue until I can get a shower and wash it all off

including my

> clothes.

[Guest guest]

I was talking about the relaxing effect smokers say they get from nicotine. I

don't think people get a relaxing or pleasant effect from second hand smoke.

Relaxing effect may be satisfying craving they have developed from being a

smoker but I'm out of my element here, not a smoker, just repeating what I hear

smokers say, that it relaxes them.

>

>

> It's been years since I left my toxic workplace but now I can't stand to

> be anywhere near smoke at all!!!! Even if they are outside and it drifts in

> through an open door I get a terrible headache. The odor just seems to

> stick to me like glue until I can get a shower and wash it all off including

my

> clothes.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am going back on nebulized Glutithion this week, everything I have read says

it is the only thing found that actually heals the lungs. You start out with a

wea solution, and build up , getting stronger every month. When I was using it

about a year and a half ago, I found my lungs were getting better.

>

> does anyone know what the long-term effects of doing oxygen therapy are

> on the lungs, good or bad? Have any studies been done? My son was

> diagnosed w/small airways obstructive disorder by Dr. Gray and w/

> vasculitis by Dr. Rea. Dr. Rea has him do 2 hours of oxygen w/a mask

> per day, said it would help the vasculitis and wouldn't hurt the lungs,

> in fact would also be healing to the lungs I think. Now he is done w/

> the oxygen therapy but can use it when he wants, if he wants. At this

> point he doesn't want to use it. Obviously breathing pure oxygen under

> pressure isn't natural, so just wondering if anyone has studied it.

>

> ALso, DR. Gray had put him on nebulized glutathione, Dr. Rea says that

> can irritate and damage the lungs, anyone know if studies have been done

> on this??

>

> thanks, sue v.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

While I would agree with you that cigarettes are known to be quite

addicting and certainly not good for anyone, No - that doesn't explain the

matter

as it pertains to lessening brain fog from mold. Someone had posted

earlier that it temporarily expands blood vessels. Maybe that is it.

Or maybe it lessens the effects of mold die off because it works as kind of

a antigen that slows the elimination. Whatever it is, it is not the

relaxing or calming effects of nicotine at work. I think one first has to be

someone who has experienced the brain fog aspect of these illnesses and

found something that quickly clears it (like nizoral nasal spray) to

understand the sensation.

Sharon

In a message dated 6/2/2010 11:11:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

dianebolton@... writes:

I believe the " relaxing effect " or calming sensation they get when they

smoke a cigarette is because they are addicted to nicotine. Their cigarette

is like a fix to a heroin addict. It all makes them feel " better " but is

doing great harm to their bodies regardless of how good they think they feel.

--- In _ _

(mailto: ) , " barb b w " <barb1283@...> wrote:

>

> I was talking about the relaxing effect smokers say they get from

nicotine. I don't think people get a relaxing or pleasant effect from second

hand

smoke. Relaxing effect may be satisfying craving they have developed from

being a smoker but I'm out of my element here, not a smoker, just repeating

what I hear smokers say, that it relaxes them.

>

>

> >

> >

> > It's been years since I left my toxic workplace but now I can't stand

to

> > be anywhere near smoke at all!!!! Even if they are outside and it

drifts in

> > through an open door I get a terrible headache. The odor just seems to

> > stick to me like glue until I can get a shower and wash it all off

including my

> > clothes.

[Guest guest]

well? comments anyone? I'm even more convienced that theres no such thing as

masking.

>

> Should have been more clear. I think masking does occur. I just meant

> masking does not explain the phenomenon as it relates to smoking and ill

> health from WDB.

>

>

> New Paper out of Sweden - I have not read it in its entirety.

> _http://www.springerlink.com/content/5p210355w2glxw31/_

> (http://www.springerlink.com/content/5p210355w2glxw31/)

>

> Regarding the Masking Index, “maskingâ€

> can be described as a hidden cause, and occurs when the

> inXicted person does not realize that the symptoms are due

> to routine or regular exposure to a substance. It has been

> suggested that overlapping symptoms resulting from everyday

> exposures to chemicals may mask the individual’s

> awareness of their intolerances as well as the intensity of

> their responses to environmental exposures ( 1997).

> The Masking Index is based on the model of toxicantinduced

> loss of tolerance ( 2001a), proposing a toxicological

> explanation for the intolerance, and that masking

> tends to hide the relationship between an individual’s symptoms

> and triggering exposures. Although the authors of the

> present paper do not fully share the view of a toxicological

> explanation, information about additional chemical exposure,

> provided by the Masking Index, may be useful.

>

> Sharon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

well, let's take my sample size of one, and limit the discussion to mold

only, not other EI factors.

My son has been out of our moldy house for 6 months now and feels no

better. He doesn't feel worse when he goes in a more moldy place or

better in a less moldy place. The mold issues in our house were

confirmed by ERMI test I did, Dr. Thrasher toxicology work up as well as

the work of an Indoor Air Quality consultant, the molds that show up in

the house produce the mycotoxins that show up in the house and in the

urine of all 4 family members, and in my son's sputum (rest of us didn't

test sputum). ALso, he tests highly highly allergic to molds. So,

isn't that masking????

Sue V

>well? comments anyone? I'm even more convienced that theres no such

>thing as masking.

>

>

>

>>

>> Should have been more clear. I think masking does occur. I just meant

>> masking does not explain the phenomenon as it relates to smoking and ill

>> health from WDB.

>>

>>

>> New Paper out of Sweden - I have not read it in its entirety.

>> _http://www.springerlink.com/content/5p210355w2glxw31/_

>> (http://www.springerlink.com/content/5p210355w2glxw31/)

>>

>> Regarding the Masking Index, ⤽masking�

>> can be described as a hidden cause, and occurs when the

>> inXicted person does not realize that the symptoms are due

>> to routine or regular exposure to a substance. It has been

>> suggested that overlapping symptoms resulting from everyday

>> exposures to chemicals may mask the individualâ¤s

>> awareness of their intolerances as well as the intensity of

>> their responses to environmental exposures ( 1997).

>> The Masking Index is based on the model of toxicantinduced

>> loss of tolerance ( 2001a), proposing a toxicological

>> explanation for the intolerance, and that masking

>> tends to hide the relationship between an individualâ¤s symptoms

>> and triggering exposures. Although the authors of the

>> present paper do not fully share the view of a toxicological

>> explanation, information about additional chemical exposure,

>> provided by the Masking Index, may be useful.

>>

>> Sharon

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

humm, to me that would mean that he has chemical sensitivity and theres still

things in his environment that are keeping his system aggervated to the point

that the symptoms all lump together and thereby he wouldn't be able to tell if a

less mold vs. more mold would help because it's not about the mold it's about

other toxins.

just my view.

>

> well, let's take my sample size of one, and limit the discussion to mold

> only, not other EI factors.

>

> My son has been out of our moldy house for 6 months now and feels no

> better. He doesn't feel worse when he goes in a more moldy place or

> better in a less moldy place. The mold issues in our house were

> confirmed by ERMI test I did, Dr. Thrasher toxicology work up as well as

> the work of an Indoor Air Quality consultant, the molds that show up in

> the house produce the mycotoxins that show up in the house and in the

> urine of all 4 family members, and in my son's sputum (rest of us didn't

> test sputum). ALso, he tests highly highly allergic to molds. So,

> isn't that masking????

>

>

> Sue V

[Guest guest]

another thought is, that if he has TE and nerve damage, I believe that does make

haveing allergies to anything a little more than

complacated than what most people consider allergy to mean.

have you taught him how to wash his sinuses ? it really does help with both

allergies and chemical reactions.

>

> well, let's take my sample size of one, and limit the discussion to mold

> only, not other EI factors.

>

> My son has been out of our moldy house for 6 months now and feels no

> better. He doesn't feel worse when he goes in a more moldy place or

> better in a less moldy place. The mold issues in our house were

> confirmed by ERMI test I did, Dr. Thrasher toxicology work up as well as

> the work of an Indoor Air Quality consultant, the molds that show up in

> the house produce the mycotoxins that show up in the house and in the

> urine of all 4 family members, and in my son's sputum (rest of us didn't

> test sputum). ALso, he tests highly highly allergic to molds. So,

> isn't that masking????

>

>

> Sue V

[Guest guest]

I believe the " relaxing effect " or calming sensation they get when they smoke a

cigarette is because they are addicted to nicotine. Their cigarette is like a

fix to a heroin addict. It all makes them feel " better " but is doing great harm

to their bodies regardless of how good they think they feel.

> >

> >

> > It's been years since I left my toxic workplace but now I can't stand to

> > be anywhere near smoke at all!!!! Even if they are outside and it drifts in

> > through an open door I get a terrible headache. The odor just seems to

> > stick to me like glue until I can get a shower and wash it all off

including my

> > clothes.

> >

> >

>