Re: airplane flying

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Surella, for the tips. I never thought about the eye drops or

allergy pills. I could take a sleeping pill but the flight is only 4 hrs. so

I'd probably be like a zombie when I landed in TX. Maybe a half would help or

a sedative. We are flying southwest so I don't think you get to pick where

you want to sit. Sitting near the bulkhead is where I'd rather be!!!!

Sue

A mask is good, also eye drops, antihistamines if you can tolerate them, a

seat close to the front (I know after many hours its all the same air, but

somehow up in the bulkhead it feels like there's more air ).

Would you consider a sleeping pill to just make the trip unconscious? All

these things worked for be at one time or another, but honestly it's so

hard when you're sick.

Surella

[Guest guest]

A mask is good, also eye drops, antihistamines if you can tolerate them, a seat

close to the front (I know after many hours its all the same air, but somehow up

in the bulkhead it feels like there's more air ).

Would you consider a sleeping pill to just make the trip unconscious? All these

things worked for be at one time or another, but honestly it's so hard when

you're sick.

Surella

>

> I have to fly to Texas in early May. The last time I flew was in 2005 to

> London. I took a mask and I did well on a 8 hr. flight but I don't think my

> MCS was as bad as it is now. Any suggestions or advice for anyone would be

> appreciated. Thanks, Sue R.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My doctor said that antihistamines, because they dry up the nasal mucosa,

make your more susceptible to viral and bacterial respiratory infections.

I found taking dextromethorphan (certain types of cough syrup) which is an

NMDA inhibitor, helps reduce MCS symptoms. See the work of Pall and

his tenth paradigm website.

Janis

Visit my blog Search for the Cure: My Healing Journey

http://www.cfsmethylation.blogspot.com

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:18 AM, surellabaer <surellabaer@...> wrote:

>

>

> A mask is good, also eye drops, antihistamines if you can tolerate them, a

> seat close to the front (I know after many hours its all the same air, but

> somehow up in the bulkhead it feels like there's more air ).

> Would you consider a sleeping pill to just make the trip unconscious? All

> these things worked for be at one time or another, but honestly it's so hard

> when you're sick.

> Surella

>

>

> >

> > I have to fly to Texas in early May. The last time I flew was in 2005 to

> > London. I took a mask and I did well on a 8 hr. flight but I don't think

> my

> > MCS was as bad as it is now. Any suggestions or advice for anyone would

> be

> > appreciated. Thanks, Sue R.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There are some additional suggestions to reduce the incidence of infectious

disease transmission when you are flying in an article I published. The link

is:

http://www.indoorair.ca/veft/pdf/germs_flying_and_the_truth-070-073_walkinshaw.p\

df

S. Walkinshaw, Ph.D., P.Eng.

Indoor Air Technologies Inc.

VEFT Aerospace Technology Inc.

ECHO Air Inc.

dsw@... www.indoorair.ca

[Guest guest]

I thought about the antihistamines. They do make you sleepy but dry you out

which could make you more prone to bacteria and viruses. I did get a good

carbon filter mask from I can breathe but have haven't used it yet. There

are SO many different cough meds out there...have you found one brand that

works better than another? Thanks for your help. Sue R.

My doctor said that antihistamines, because they dry up the nasal mucosa,

make your more susceptible to viral and bacterial respiratory infections.

I found taking dextromethorphan (certain types of cough syrup) which is an

NMDA inhibitor, helps reduce MCS symptoms. See the work of Pall and

his tenth paradigm website.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, that's a good tip. I'm writing these all down so put with my

travel bag.

SSR

The very first thing I do is turn on that air supply that's right above

your head and point it to where it's blowing right on me, that's the only way

I can survive a trip. get's pretty cold sometimes.

[Guest guest]

I thought we were supposed to keep our sinuses moist. I have taken

antihistamines and don't have a problem with them except the make me sleepy but

I'm

confused about keeping dry on a plane trip. I'm willing to try anything to

stay well since we will be attending our sons graduation I don't want to

suffer the headache from hell the whole time I'm there and miss the whole

event.

How do you feel about Mucinex? My new doctor prefers that to regular

antihistamines although I take both, Mucinex works really well.

I take antihistamines for the plane because the air dries out my sinuses

and causes a sinus headache which immediately turns into a migraine for me.

So the medication is really to prevent that headache-everything dries up

regardless of what I do!

Surella

[Guest guest]

How do you feel about Mucinex? My new doctor prefers that to regular

antihistamines although I take both, Mucinex works really well.

I take antihistamines for the plane because the air dries out my sinuses and

causes a sinus headache which immediately turns into a migraine for me. So the

medication is really to prevent that headache-everything dries up regardless of

what I do!

Surella

>

> My doctor said that antihistamines, because they dry up the nasal mucosa,

> make your more susceptible to viral and bacterial respiratory infections.

> I found taking dextromethorphan (certain types of cough syrup) which is an

> NMDA inhibitor, helps reduce MCS symptoms. See the work of Pall and

> his tenth paradigm website.

>

> Janis

> Visit my blog Search for the Cure: My Healing Journey

> http://www.cfsmethylation.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

The very first thing I do is turn on that air supply thats right above your head

and point it to where it's blowing right on me, thats the only way I can survive

a trip. get's pretty cold sometimes.

> >

> > I have to fly to Texas in early May. The last time I flew was in 2005 to

> > London. I took a mask and I did well on a 8 hr. flight but I don't think my

> > MCS was as bad as it is now. Any suggestions or advice for anyone would be

> > appreciated. Thanks, Sue R.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

now right in your face, but to where your breathing it instead of everyones

purfumes,ect. still, I have ended up spending a few weeks recovering from every

trip, dont use the pillows or blankets supplied either. try to set by the

window.

> >

> > A mask is good, also eye drops, antihistamines if you can tolerate them, a

seat close to the front (I know after many hours its all the same air, but

somehow up in the bulkhead it feels like there's more air ).

[Guest guest]

I would let the flight attendants know how bad the problem is with fragrance and

check with the ticket agent if the flights not full they can separate you from

the others.   

Also with the air blowers you actually want to point those in the direction

where you feel the most harm is coming from.  It acts as a wind wall    

Also go to the bathroom right before you get on and be the last on the plane so

you don't have to feel everyone walking by.     Front of the cabin has the

better air

Hope that helps

a

From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Subject: [] Re: airplane flying

Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 8:08 AM

now right in your face, but to where your breathing it instead of

everyones purfumes,ect. still, I have ended up spending a few weeks recovering

from every trip, dont use the pillows or blankets supplied either. try to set by

the window.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kathy! I have an organic cotton mask with a carbon filter. I'll

have to pack a small bottle of the water/baking soda because of the liquid

restrictions. I plan to take extra CSM with me. It's the headaches I fear the

most because the are so debilitating! When I get one I can't even function

and I don't want to miss graduation. What is your detox protocol? SSR

I have a 3m respirator that works fanstastic. But when traveling, I would

prefer to use an organic cotton mask sold through many MCS distributors.

The cotton is easier to carry and less obtrusive than a respirator. They make

them both with/without carbon and although I have a sensitivity to carbon,

it is still the best chemical filtration method for me during the

necessary time to complete a trip.

And like many other MCSers, I go nowhere without a nasal spray bottle

filled with water/baking soda combo. Then once I arrive at my destination, ramp

up my detox protocol full scale for 24 hours then gradually back it down

till cleared.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Thanks, a. We are traveling via Southwest. I called and asked about

seating. They can't even guarantee that I can sit next to my husband! I

was hoping they would be a bit more understand but perhaps if we get there

early enough I can talk to someone before we get on. SSR

I would let the flight attendants know how bad the problem is with

fragrance and check with the ticket agent if the flights not full they can

separate you from the others.

Also with the air blowers you actually want to point those in the

direction where you feel the most harm is coming from. It acts as a wind wall

Also go to the bathroom right before you get on and be the last on the

plane so you don't have to feel everyone walking by. Front of the cabin

has the better air

Hope that helps

a

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue-

I have a 3m respirator that works fanstastic. But when traveling, I would

prefer to use an organic cotton mask sold through many MCS distributors. The

cotton is easier to carry and less obtrusive than a respirator. They make them

both with/without carbon and although I have a sensitivity to carbon, it is

still the best chemical filtration method for me during the necessary time to

complete a trip.

And like many other MCSers, I go nowhere without a nasal spray bottle filled

with water/baking soda combo. Then once I arrive at my destination, ramp up my

detox protocol full scale for 24 hours then gradually back it down till cleared.

Kathy

I have to fly to Texas in early May. The last time I flew was in 2005 to London.

I took a mask and I did well on a 8 hr. flight but I don't think my MCS was as

bad as it is now. Any suggestions or advice for anyone would be appreciated.

Thanks, Sue R.

[Guest guest]

It's not the cough medicine that works, it's the dextromethorphan which is

an NMDA inhibitor. I use the CVS brand. Don't get the stuff that has other

things in it. Read labels carefully. See if it inhibits your MCS

reactions. I found it helped a little but not a whole lot because I

couldn't take that much of it.

Janis

Visit my blog Search for the Cure: My Healing Journey

http://www.cfsmethylation.blogspot.com

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:19 PM, <ssr3351@...> wrote:

>

I thought about the antihistamines. They do make you sleepy but dry you out

>

> which could make you more prone to bacteria and viruses. I did get a good

> carbon filter mask from I can breathe but have haven't used it yet. There

> are SO many different cough meds out there...have you found one brand that

> works better than another? Thanks for your help. Sue R.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I think I'll put my mask on as soon as I sit down!

now right in your face, but to where your breathing it instead of

everyones purfumes,ect. still, I have ended up spending a few weeks recovering

from

every trip, dont use the pillows or blankets supplied either. try to set

by the window.

[Guest guest]

Thanks VERY much. I just printed it out and will read it this evening. I'm

keeping a list of all the good tips with my bag. Not leaving for another

month so I have time to get everything ready.

Sue R.

There are some additional suggestions to reduce the incidence of

infectious disease transmission when you are flying in an article I published.

The

link is:

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! I have a mask and pray I don't end up near someone with a

bottle of perfume on. I'll be sick by the time I get there! That's what

concerns me the most because I know they won't do anything to help me.

Sue I flew to Florida last year and did just fine. I was very nervous

before the flight. I didn't even mention my illness to anyone because you know

how that can be. I figured if I had a problem then I would speak up.

Last year they didn't have seating arrangements so you can sit wherever

you want. They do the ticket thing different if they still do it the same and

you have to check in or whatever they call it on your computer the day

before you fly. So you be ready to do it right at the time they tell you to

check in and that is how you line up for seating. I sat next to a woman and

her daughter and actually had a nice flight and conversation.

I didn't move to go to the bathroom, etc.

[Guest guest]

Sue I flew to Florida last year and did just fine. I was very nervous before the

flight. I didn't even mention my illness to anyone because you know how that can

be. I figured if I had a problem then I would speak up.

Last year they didn't have seating arrangements so you can sit wherever you

want. They do the ticket thing different if they still do it the same and you

have to check in or whatever they call it on your computer the day before you

fly. So you be ready to do it right at the time they tell you to check in and

that is how you line up for seating. I sat next to a woman and her daughter and

actually had a nice flight and conversation.

I didn't move to go to the bathroom, etc.

The most trouble I had was at the airport waiting for my husband to pick me up.

You had to stand out there where all the cars are and all the exhaust was

difficult. The flight was fine and it was Southwest. They are also very nice and

actually tell jokes while flying. Relax I am sure you will be good unless there

is some person loaded up with fragrances and then I would speak up. hugs,

>

> I have to fly to Texas in early May. The last time I flew was in 2005 to

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue-

Sherry was my environmental doc before retiring so between her and her

books, it's one of the many places I starting learning about how to best manage

my MCS. How I handle an exposure depends upon what I get exposed to as I have

different protocols depending upon the substance. But the one constant

throughout the years is Dr 's Detox Cocktail and don't know if I would be

alive without it. It's a combo of Vit C/Glutathione/R-DHALA. When exposed,

will drink it 2-3xday for a couple of days while ramping up the shots, add a

bunch of anti-ox's, sauna, alternative treatment modalities and also try and

sleep it off if my nervous system allows. I also back off solid food and do

mostly liquids including shakes that my body easily digests. Will also

concentrate on keeping my body in a neutral pH state, which is particularly hard

to do when exposed. In other words, anything to assist detox and help with my

impaired Phase II.

Please note that I have no financial or vested interest in any person, place,

object or anything else mentioned in this posting.

Kathy

> Thanks, Kathy! I have an organic cotton mask with a carbon filter....What is

your detox protocol? SSR..snip...

[Guest guest]

" It's a combo of VitC/Glutathione/R-DHALA " Kathy, what is R-DHALA?

Also, " will drink it 2-3xday for a couple of days while ramping up the shots " .

What are " the shots " ? Thanks

> > Thanks, Kathy! I have an organic cotton mask with a carbon filter....What is

your detox protocol? SSR..snip...

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy, thanks for the words of encouragement! I have to go to my son's

graduation but as I said my fear is getting so sick from the plane that I will

miss the events. I have my mask and will put it on as soon as I board the

plane. I don't care what anyone thinks. I'll also use the tips the others

have suggested and think positive!!! Our son will be graduating from Air

Force basic training and I couldn't be any prouder!! He was sworn in by my

husband the day HE RETIRED (last March) after serving for 37 years!!

Thanks, again, for your support, Sue AKA Glinda

Hi Sue-

I sooo get the fear. It's the old MCS expression of which is worse..our

reaction to the possible reaction or the actual reaction itself..lol...

So am energetically wrapping you up in the most perfect protective bubble

in which one can travel. A perfect protective cocoon just like Glinda the

good witch. So float safely away and when you reach your final destination,

look forward to positive posts on how wonderful the trip was. Or at the

very least you can sit in your airline seat and have a good laugh while

visualizing floating around the stinky airline cabin in a Glinda bubble...lol..

It'll be our little secret.

Sometimes it's such a trade off with potentially exposing ourselves to

scary stuff vs the emotional rewards of connecting with the rest of the human

race. You are so brave and I give you so much credit.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hey Barb-

Her original detox cocktail protocol called for ALA and when the more

bioavalable form became less expensive and easier to get, she modified it to

include either ALA or R-DHALA...sometimes called R-ALA. Either way, it's

R-Dihydro Alpha Lipoic Acid. R-ALA is said to be the reduced, biologically

active form of alpha lipoic acid. I am such a poor convertor that whenever

something is in a reduced/more bioavailable form, I use it if affordable.

Dr started me on the shots but due to staying under the NY State radar,

she never did hormones or chemicals. Once she retired, I either went to one of

the clinics or another Rea protege. So went to Patel in Buffalo where she does

SDEPT P/N method that includes the hormones and chemicals. So I use her serums

for all the inhalants, molds, TCE, Candida and also hormone and chemical shots.

LOVE the hormone shots. Can also self inject now too which is much more

convenient than running to an allergy practice to have them administered.

Kathy

> " It's a combo of VitC/Glutathione/R-DHALA " Kathy, what is R-DHALA?

> Also, " will drink it 2-3xday for a couple of days while ramping up the shots " .

What are " the shots " ? Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue-

I sooo get the fear. It's the old MCS expression of which is worse..our

reaction to the possible reaction or the actual reaction itself..lol...

So am energetically wrapping you up in the most perfect protective bubble in

which one can travel. A perfect protective cocoon just like Glinda the good

witch. So float safely away and when you reach your final destination, look

forward to positive posts on how wonderful the trip was. Or at the very least

you can sit in your airline seat and have a good laugh while visualizing

floating around the stinky airline cabin in a Glinda bubble...lol.. It'll be

our little secret.

Sometimes it's such a trade off with potentially exposing ourselves to scary

stuff vs the emotional rewards of connecting with the rest of the human race.

You are so brave and I give you so much credit.

Kathy

>Thanks, ! I have a mask and pray I don't end up near someone with a

bottle of perfume on. I'll be sick by the time I get there! That's what

concerns me the most because I know they won't do anything to help me.

[Guest guest]

So the shots, are allergy shots?

> > " It's a combo of VitC/Glutathione/R-DHALA " Kathy, what is R-DHALA?

> > Also, " will drink it 2-3xday for a couple of days while ramping up the

shots " . What are " the shots " ? Thanks

>