New Realizations/Re: Relocation Accomplished

[Guest guest]

I feel (can't prove) that stachy has toxins that can stick on things. If stachy

spores get into your environment, you need to wipe them away quickly and try to

get sun into it (car for example).

I still react, a year later, to certain items or clothing from my apartment even

after it is cleaned. Not everything. Some could be decontaminated some not and I

have no clue why.

On the other hand, if I am staying in a place with regular molds or even

somewhat toxic to me aspergillus, and feel bad, I can still take my stuff out

and clear up away from it. It doesn't seem to stick on my stuff like stachy

toxins.

That's the only way I can make sense of what said. I guess she should stop

having people visit her place. It doesn't seem worth it given her level of

sensitivity.

And on another note, I've been reading this group for years and it's very

helpful but I've concluded that if you're mold sensitive, almost nothing out

there is going to be safe. All standard construction is so messed up it

inevitably gets moldy.

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> ,

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> Thanks for your experience. Did you get sick after your neighbor

> visited? Otherwise, why did you test after but not before their

> visit? (maybe you have prior sample data?).

>

> I'd be interested in knowing

[Guest guest]

cocopollyphenol wrote:

" if you're mold sensitive, almost nothing out there is going to be

safe. All standard construction is so messed up it inevitably gets

moldy. "

A little fine-tuning of the above:

While I generally agree with both statements I don't think they are

always true. We have to remember that each support group has

it's own culture. Some feel like they fit in and and stay but others

don't and they leave. So each group tends to become self-

selecting and self-supportive. Also, there are many who never

find any of these groups and most don't need the help we can

offer.

I have a client right now where the water damage and mold

occurred over two months ago. The original contractor totally

botched it and cross-contaminated the entire house. But none of

the occupants have any problems. A different contractor has just

finished the main problem area but has denied any further need

(insurance issues). The occupants still don't have any health

issues. Another contractor will begin work tomorrow to complete

the job and then the rebuild can begin. One person has some

issues with chemical exposure so that will be when extra

diligence will be needed.

Most houses don't leak or have mold/bacteria problems. Most are

not WDB. But when leaks do occur then the problems can start

and the longer they go undetected and not fixed the greater the

risk for health issues. Hidden moisture, like from condensation

inside wall assemblies, can eventually be the worst because they

go undetected for such a long time.

Some mold-exposed people become reactive to a multitude of

other substances just like you say. But not all do. And they don't

become reactive to ALL substances. There are always some

which they are okay with. Also, the strength of reaction will vary

from substance to substance. Sickbuildings tends to attract and

keep those who fit your description. So my fine-tuning would be to

modify your statements with the following " true for those on

Sickbuildings. "

Most of these details aren't important for most people. But when

hyper-reactive to many things it is critical to figure it out until

either the problem is solved or the house is at least tolerable.

Many on this group have had to settle for " tolerable " rather than

" fixed. "

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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I feel (can't prove) that stachy has toxins that can stick on things. If stachy

spores get into your environment, you need to wipe them away quickly and try to

get sun into it (car for example).

I still react, a year later, to certain items or clothing from my apartment even

after it is cleaned. Not everything. Some could be decontaminated some not and I

have no clue why.

On the other hand, if I am staying in a place with regular molds or even

somewhat toxic to me aspergillus, and feel bad, I can still take my stuff out

and clear up away from it. It doesn't seem to stick on my stuff like stachy

toxins.

That's the only way I can make sense of what said. I guess she should stop

having people visit her place. It doesn't seem worth it given her level of

sensitivity.

And on another note, I've been reading this group for years and it's very

helpful but I've concluded that if you're mold sensitive, almost nothing out

there is going to be safe. All standard construction is so messed up it

inevitably gets moldy.

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for your experience. Did you get sick after your neighbor

> visited? Otherwise, why did you test after but not before their

> visit? (maybe you have prior sample data?).

>

> I'd be interested in knowing

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