Re: Urgent, please help!

[Guest guest]

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wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I just started my first round of chelation with DMSA and have so far

> taken two doses. I accidently ate some tuna for lunch, it was

> supposed to be chicken salad, but he gave me the wrong thing. I ended

> up eating about half before I realized what it was. Will I be harmed?

> Is there anything I should do.

This is fine, a few bites of tuna won't hurt you. Just check the

sandwich next time and don't eat any more tuna.

>

> Should I stop chelation?

No.

> Please answer as soon as you can because my

> next dose is scheduled for an hour from now.

>

> Thanks,

> Bernadette

[Guest guest]

Dana,

If it's that bad please go to your mom's.  Wash your clothes you have to have

with Borax & seal them in a plastic bag. Don't take any furniture made from

fabric. No paper items. Leave the blankets unless you can wash them many times &

seal them. Don't take pillows.

Wear old clothes & throw them out when you get there. Soak or shower.

Mold can effect every organ.

Praying for you, Kathy

candalah@... wrote:

Can mold stress all organs as i had one of those electrodermal or

meridian assesment tests done a year ago which showed stress to pretty

much every organ, liver spleen lungs kidney adrenals etc etc. He said i

was being exposed to mercury so spent a long time investigating that. I

also had lead levels off the chart so spent ages investigating that. He

did say i had some sort of inhalent allergy but i had no idea what he

was talking about and didnt pursue it any further.

[Guest guest]

You poor thing. I've been there. My suggestion (anyone chime in to hone the

details) is to get yourself, some clothes & your hair clean & sleep in your

vehicle or at your mum's. Spend as little time as possible in the house & you'll

think clearer about your next step. Make detailed lists of what you plan to

do/get when you go to your place so that you're not in outer space wondering

what to do when you get there. I also suggest you wear a good respirator mask &

hat when you do go into the house & wear clothes that you reserve just for going

in. This is the mask & cartridge I have:

http://www.labsafety.com/search/93911/24527525/?GoButton=Go

http://www.labsafety.com/search/60926/24530075/38035/?GoButton=Go & isredirect=tru\

e

I really think you can clean many of your possessions up very meticulously but

many disagree & say you have to throw it all out. All new stuff to someone with

MCS is no easy or cheap project. You could put your stuff in storage & clean it

up little by little as you need it while you stay at your mum's. Some things are

just too porous to ever be safe, like a couch - use your judgement & your sense

of smell.

>

>

> thankyou to everyone that replied and sorry about my delay in reponding. Im

now almost 100% sure that mold is a major problem. I have been sleeping in the

loungeroom for the last week and itchyness in ears has gone away and have been

taking lots of oregano oil which seems to have helped, i have had another

infection which has made me feel rough and got it when i was on hol away from

house, but it seems to have cleared up. However its started raining here since

yesterday and today i have had the following symptoms 'air hunger' which ive had

previously and assumed that it was an adrenal thing, weakness in muscles,

tiredness, itchy red eyes, bags under eyes, twitchy eyes, itchyness in ears,

clenching of calf muscles, sore throat, bags, clear mucous coming from vag,

crawling skin, mild headache, forgetfullness, later nausea. Boyfriend slept in

and has massive rings under his eyes.

>

> I may have mentioned that ive gotten full blown mcs in the last few months ie

the spreading phenomena where everything chemical bothers me. now i think ive

found the cause for sure. Can mold stress all organs as i had one of those

electrodermal or meridian assesment tests done a year ago which showed stress to

pretty much every organ, liver spleen lungs kidney adrenals etc etc. He said i

was being exposed to mercury so spent a long time investigating that. I also had

lead levels off the chart so spent ages investigating that. He did say i had

some sort of inhalent allergy but i had no idea what he was talking about and

didnt pursue it any further.

>

> Ok so my symptoms are all screaming mold and obviously i need to get the hell

out of here. I could go to my mums but arent i likely to take the spores along

with me and infect her house? I probably have since i stayed there a week ago. I

want to leave but i dont know how or what to do. I could sleep in the car but no

doubt there are spores in therre.

>

> Do i really need to throw out everything and start again? Arent there spores

everywhere, or is it more that we become sensitiesed and there would be a large

number in our clothes? I threw the matress out and there is no mould growing

anywhrere in the living space. There is no way im checking in the roof cavity as

there is likely a lot of lead dust up there and i would also be terrified to

breath in even larger amounts of spores.

>

> Please help me with where to go tonight and what to do i dont want to

contaminate my mums place and i find all of this too hard to understand by

myself though ive tried. Im sitting outside in the mild rain with my ipad and

feeling better than inside.

>

[Guest guest]

Dana, Im not sure what your financial situation is but is it possible for you to

run to a cheap department store and buy some clothes? Dont try them on just buy

something you can wear for a couple of days. Beings your worried about your

mum's house is it possible for you to rent a hotel room for a day or two? If so

what you want to do is buy some Nizoral shampoo and some 13 gallon trash bags.

Once you get into the hotel room go directly into the bathroom take off your

clothes put them into the trash bags and seal up the bag so no air can escape.

Once thats accomplished take a shower using the Nizoral shampoo and put the new

clothes on. The next thing you want to do is take the trash bag with the

contaminated clothes and throw it away.

Just because your staying in a hotel room and the spores have all but been

eliminated doesn't mean your going to get instant relief. It sounds like you've

been exposed for quite some time and regardless of how diligent you are at

avoiding mold spores its going to take time to start feeling better so don't get

frustrated and think you've some how cross contaminated your new surroundings.

Ive been down this road a few times and this procedure seems to work best for

me.

>

>

> thankyou to everyone that replied and sorry about my delay in reponding. Im

now almost 100% sure that mold is a major problem. I have been sleeping in the

loungeroom for the last week and itchyness in ears has gone away and have been

taking lots of oregano oil which seems to have helped, i have had another

infection which has made me feel rough and got it when i was on hol away from

house, but it seems to have cleared up. However its started raining here since

yesterday and today i have had the following symptoms 'air hunger' which ive had

previously and assumed that it was an adrenal thing, weakness in muscles,

tiredness, itchy red eyes, bags under eyes, twitchy eyes, itchyness in ears,

clenching of calf muscles, sore throat, bags, clear mucous coming from vag,

crawling skin, mild headache, forgetfullness, later nausea. Boyfriend slept in

and has massive rings under his eyes.

[Guest guest]

Thank you ,

Im sorry to hear that you have suffere through this as well. I hope you are

doing much better now.

I could sleep in the vehicle but there would definately be mould spores in the

car and im not syre what to do about that? Ive been sitting in the car for the

last few hours and feel fine here though so maybe it would be ok? Presumably it

will be a problem overnight with condensation etc. That is a good idea about

making lists. How do you recommend cleaning possesssions? Yes new stuff will be

a problem because of money and reacting to the chemicals in them! Is second hand

eg couches, clothes just too much of a risk?

Finally i was just wondering if anyone knows of any good websites i could turn

to for more information on cleaning items etc? I have ordered healthy habitats

but im in australia and dont know how long it will take to get here.

>>>>>>>>>>

You poor thing. I've been there. My suggestion (anyone chime in to hone the

details) is to get yourself, some clothes & your hair clean & sleep in your

vehicle or at your mum's. Spend as little time as possible in the house & you'll

think clearer about your next step. Make detailed lists of what you plan to

do/get when you go to your place so that you're not in outer space wondering

what to do when you get there. I also suggest you wear a good respirator mask &

hat when you do go into the house & wear clothes that you reserve just for going

in. This is the mask & cartridge I have:

http://www.labsafety.com/search/93911/24527525/?GoButton=Go

http://www.labsafety.com/search/60926/24530075/38035/?GoButton=Go & isredirect=tru\

e

I really think you can clean many of your possessions up very meticulously but

many disagree & say you have to throw it all out. All new stuff to someone with

MCS is no easy or cheap project. You could put your stuff in storage & clean it

up little by little as you need it while you stay at your mum's. Some things are

just too porous to ever be safe, like a couch - use your judgement & your sense

of smell.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tug, its not so easy to buy new stuff unfortunately because of the mcs i

react very strongly to chemicals. Most of my clothes ive had for years and have

not used perfumes, or chemical washing powders for years. Nizoral also woul be

full of chemicals. Its quite hard! Im suremy boyfriend is also being affected

but is not likely to buy into it or believe it, i dont think he would go to the

extremes of throwing everything out and cant anyway because he survives by

selling second hand books on ebay! He has absolutley no savings and now i wont

be able to help him financially. Im so scared for him and for me. Its hard to

see any light at the end of the tunnel

>

> Dana, Im not sure what your financial situation is but is it possible for you

to run to a cheap department store and buy some clothes? Dont try them on just

buy something you can wear for a couple of days. Beings your worried about your

mum's house is it possible for you to rent a hotel room for a day or two? If so

what you want to do is buy some Nizoral shampoo and some 13 gallon trash bags.

Once you get into the hotel room go directly into the bathroom take off your

clothes put them into the trash bags and seal up the bag so no air can escape.

Once thats accomplished take a shower using the Nizoral shampoo and put the new

clothes on. The next thing you want to do is take the trash bag with the

contaminated clothes and throw it away.

>

> Just because your staying in a hotel room and the spores have all but been

eliminated doesn't mean your going to get instant relief. It

[Guest guest]

I get used clothes. The laundry smell is detectible whereas new chemical isn't

as easy to smell... & then I react when I wear it. The chemicals in new fabric

actually seem to last longer than dryer sheets. I put all new/used clothes on

the clothesline inside out for months. For cleaning there's borax, peroxide,

vodka. The latter seem to kill certain things that the others don't. I wouldn't

buy cushioned furniture. Wood is a judgement call. I go by what my nose says is

OK to bring inside.:-) Metal is the safest choice. The few pieces of furniture I

bought after MCS were metal. There is a futon frame I see in Walmart once in a

while that's metal. I think it comes with a mattress but I would get rid of it &

use piles of blankets as a cushion. The outgassing process of all new stuff at

the same time would drive me insane & be a huge clean-up job after it's been

outside for long enough.

>

> Thank you ,

>

> Im sorry to hear that you have suffere through this as well. I hope you are

doing much better now.

>

> I could sleep in the vehicle but there would definately be mould spores in the

car and im not syre what to do about that? Ive been sitting in the car for the

last few hours and feel fine here though so maybe it would be ok? Presumably it

will be a problem overnight with condensation etc. That is a good idea about

making lists. How do you recommend cleaning possesssions? Yes new stuff will be

a problem because of money and reacting to the chemicals in them! Is second hand

eg couches, clothes just too much of a risk?

>

> Finally i was just wondering if anyone knows of any good websites i could turn

to for more information on cleaning items etc? I have ordered healthy habitats

but im in australia and dont know how long it will take to get here.

[Guest guest]

Yes the metal bed frame is not healthy as you said. In one of Hanna Kroeger's

books is a way to wrap a copper wire around it for protection but I haven't done

it. You can also ground your bed to the outside. I react to EMF's but I'm not

bad enough to rush to do it. ly I'm darn sick of all the offgassing of

every little thing & the job of cleaning up things that have sat outside for

months. There's a group I think it's called emfrefugee that a freind of mine

belongs to. She's really sensitive to EMF's. It's her whole problem.

>

> ... Metal is the safest choice. The few pieces of furniture I bought after MCS

were metal. ...

>

>

> [snipped]

>

[Guest guest]

thats an interesting idea to groun the beds.. ive heard this too about metal

beds.. our last beds were unfinished pine.. ive heard this can be an issue for

some with mcs.. the pine smells and i gues vocs? the ones we purchsed this time

were simple platform frames with a water based acrylic.. this has been ok for

us. also run austin air in bedrooms. not suire how much that helps but can tell

when off.

planet thrive has some nice looking pics.. samples of mcs folks beddings.. one

person used an old futon frame.. wood and washed possibly used canvas ... forgot

how she attached the canvas, then she used piles of old blankets as a mattress.

robin

>

> Yes the metal bed frame is not healthy as you said. In one of Hanna Kroeger's

books is a way to wrap a copper wire around it for protection but I haven't done

it. You can also ground your bed to the outside. I react to EMF's but I'm not

bad enough to rush to do it. ly I'm darn sick of all the offgassing of

every little thing & the job of cleaning up things that have sat outside for

months. There's a group I think it's called emfrefugee that a freind of mine

belongs to. She's really sensitive to EMF's. It's her whole problem.

>

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