Re: How can one be sick and not be fatigued?(Was: Re: Tug's S...

[Guest guest]

On another note, the very hallmark of chronic fatigue syndrome is

exercise-induced intolerance. And graded exercise does not change that. So if I

want to exercise, I have to make sure that I don't have to do any real thinking

afterwards, because my brain will be mush.

However, I don't think CFS has anything to do with toxins, so I guess I am

talking about something different here. I know lots of people here believe CFS

has to do with toxins,but I don't. Anyway, that's a different topic.

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On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:40 AM, snk1955@... wrote:

As I understand it, moderate exercise, such as a 20 minute walk (5 may be

moderate for you), is KEY to helping regain your stamina.

In a message dated 11/6/2010 8:38:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

advocate_now@... writes:

I don't understand how one can be sick from mold or toxins of any sort and

NOT have crushing fatigue. Anyone else EXHAUSTED?

I wish I could do moderate exercise, let alone vigorous,

electrolyte-depleting exercise. At least I don't have to worry about edema.

Small favors!

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[Guest guest]

You are entitled to your belief. You have only defined one aspect of CFS. I

suggest you read up on the latest information on CFS. It is a toxic response.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2964729/pdf/1743-7075-7-79.pdf

Re: [] How can one be sick and not be fatigued?(Was: Re:

Tug's S...

On another note, the very hallmark of chronic fatigue syndrome is

exercise-induced intolerance. And graded exercise does not change that. So if I

want to exercise, I have to make sure that I don't have to do any real thinking

afterwards, because my brain will be mush.

However, I don't think CFS has anything to do with toxins, so I guess I am

talking about something different here. I know lots of people here believe CFS

has to do with toxins,but I don't. Anyway, that's a different topic.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:40 AM, snk1955@... wrote:

As I understand it, moderate exercise, such as a 20 minute walk (5 may be

moderate for you), is KEY to helping regain your stamina.

In a message dated 11/6/2010 8:38:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

advocate_now@... writes:

I don't understand how one can be sick from mold or toxins of any sort and

NOT have crushing fatigue. Anyone else EXHAUSTED?

I wish I could do moderate exercise, let alone vigorous,

electrolyte-depleting exercise. At least I don't have to worry about edema.

Small favors!

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

.... A good sup so far for me is Peak Energy Mag ATP w malic acid.

http://nutritionalmagnesium.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=2 & I\

temid=57#13

What is the best form of magnesium supplement?

The amount of magnesium your tissues can readily use is based on the

amount of elemental or ionic magnesium that is released. There are

several organic salt chelates that are highly absorbable such as

magnesium citrate, taurate and malate.

Two forms to avoid are magnesium

aspartate and glutamate. Aspartate breaks down into the

neurotransmitter aspartic acid, which without being bound to other

amino acids is neurotoxic. Glutamate also breaks down into the

neurotransmitter glutamic acid, which without being bound to other

amino acids is also neurotoxic.

Can magnesium supplements help with energy, stamina and fatigue?

Magnesium, as one of the key electrolytes, is an excellent example of

an energy nutrient, since it activates enzymes that control digestion,

absorption and the utilization of proteins, fats and carbohydrates.

Because magnesium is involved with hundreds of enzymatic reactions

throughout the body, deficiency can manifest itself in many different

ways.

Of the 325 magnesium-dependent enzymes, the most important enzyme

reaction involves

the creation of energy by activating adenosine

triphosphate (ATP), the fundamental energy storage molecule of the body.

ATP may be what the Chinese refer to as " qi, " or " energy flow. "

Magnesium is required for the body to produce and store energy. Without

magnesium there is no energy, no movement, no life. When you lose it

through sweat, physical stress and exercise,  you need to make sure you

replenish it.

In a message dated 11/6/2010 2:54:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jerizerr@... writes:

Perhaps the fatigue is related to a depletion of Chi energy or ATP. My

understanding is ATP is reliant upon ribose which the body generally

produces, but the creation of ribose is a high energy demand system which

the body shuts down when under stress due to the high energy demand the

ribose production itself entails. I recommend Dr. Sinatra's books

including Sinatra Solution for further information on ATP, energy, ribose

and fatigue.

Otherwise perhaps one of my reviews on Amazon may shed further light:

_http://www.amazon.com/NutraBulk-D-Ribose-Powder-ONE-KILOGRAM/dp/B0011G6HCM/

_

(http://www.amazon.com/NutraBulk-D-Ribose-Powder-ONE-KILOGRAM/dp/B0011G6HCM/)

Be sure to read the review after mine which addresses fatigue.

Jeri

[Guest guest]

I believe their is being chronically fatigued from being ill, then there is

CFS.  Many may confuse the 2.  I am chronically fatigued but do not think I

have

CFS.   I recently read about a woman who passed in her country it was not

recognized, she was institutionalized for mental illness and died in their

care.  After the autopsy problems where found in her spine ( do not remeber the

entire thing ).  Mother is suing for not having treated her apropriately and

having let her die.  She was only in her 30's. 

 Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), also known as chronic fatigue and immune

dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS), myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME) and by other names,

is a complex and debilitating chronic illness that affects the brain and

multiple body systems. On this portion of our website you can find detailed

information about CFS, its symptoms, diagnosis, treatment, important research

findings and how it affects the lives of those who live with it everyday.

 

Although its name trivializes the illness as little more than mere tiredness,

chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), also known as chronic fatigue and immune

dysfunction syndrome (CFIDS), brings with it a constellation of debilitating

symptoms.

CFS is characterized by incapacitating fatigue (experienced as profound

exhaustion and extremely poor stamina) and problems with concentration and

short-term memory. It is also accompanied by flu-like symptoms such as pain in

the joints and muscles, unrefreshing sleep, tender lymph nodes, sore throat and

headache. A distinctive characteristic of the illness is post-exertional

malaise, a worsening of symptoms following physical or mental exertion occurring

within 12-48 hours of the exertion and requiring an extended recovery period.

 

http://www.cfids.org/about-cfids/symptoms.asp

 

The first ever death from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome has been recorded in Britain.

Will this finding change the way CFS is tackled?

A 32-year-old woman has died after suffering Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for six

years. Ina world first, the coroner found that while the woman died of acute

aneuric renal failure (failure to produce urine) due to dehydration, the primary

cause of death was Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

So what does this mean for the future of this syndrome? In the past many were

dubious as to whether the syndrome even existed, and no-one thought it could

ever be so extreme as to cause death.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/victoria/stories/s1666562.htm

 

 

God Bless !!

dragonflymcs

Mayleen

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From: " snk1955@... " <snk1955@...>

Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 2:45:51 PM

Subject: Re: [] How can one be sick and not be fatigued?(Was: Re:

Tug's S...

 

I think there are probably a lot of people who think CFS, at least a form

of it, does have to do with toxins, because they are able to corrolate the

beginning with CFS to a toxic exposure. Although I was never diagnosed

with a toxic illness and was successfully treated immunologically for

hypersensitivity pneumonitis; I can tell you that I spent many a day where I

literally could not get my head off of the pillow. I would sit up for about 5

minutes and go right back down. Isn't that CFS?