Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

There are plenty of healthy crockpot recipes around that do not used the canned

soups (which I don't use) or extra salt. I use Mrs. Dash in seasoning my foods

and I use the Crockpot regularly even in the summer. I even make up my own

recipes, putting anything in the fridge that sounds good into it.

I would Google Healthy Crockpot cooking and I think there's even a Facebook page

for healthy crockpot cooking. There are virtually *always* healthy alternatives

to the less than healthy food options available to us.

Thea, who is currently eating a crockpot soup of her own concoction!

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:18 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt

I could see that by switching to sea salt that iodine might be missing as they

added that to table salt. I suppose we could eat cold water fish and make up

for that. Is there anything in sprouts or a certain kind that provides iodine

in the diet to avoid goiter problems?

I don't know anything else that requires salt. I have cut that way back too.

I don't use the crock pot much as most of the hundreds of crock pot recipes I've

seen have lots of salt in them or they take soup to add and that is full of

salt.

I wish your son well and hope that can be cured in the near future.

,_._,___

[Guest guest]

I do soups in the crock pot too.  I think I have a recipe for spinach egg drop

soup which is good.  I like wedding soup and have a recipe but that takes

little meatballs which were good and some chicken as well and escarole and some

type of small pasta.  Takes chicken broth in both those.  I made chili and put

several kinds of beans and did put ground chuck in that but husband can't have

the tomatoes or the beans so am not sure about that.  maybe just turn it into a

fancy bean soup or bean and kale by experimenting or trying to find the recipes

I got at going to a senior  center for vegetable (or mostly veggie) class of 6

lessons given by County Extension office at senior center.  I left a message

with them as I'd like to have at least one class at church for women there.  I

need to call them back I guess.

 

I have cooked a pot roast inthere butg I preferred the oven for that and then

might slice it up later and put in with broth thickened up for another day. 

Hubby can still eat that.  He doens't like leftovers very well except for

breakfast.

 

I had some leftover wedding soup and poured in more broth (sorry but it was out

of the box or rather in the box not homemade) and I ended up putting in some

black beans and connolini beans and added tomato diced (no salt added).  I

washed my beans but found some at Whole Foods with no salt in them.  I guess I

can sure look the beans and let sit overnight in water just like the sprouts and

then cook them in crock pot all day.   He is going to be tempted by some of my

foods and I'll be tempted by some of his.  But I gained back about 14 lbs that

I had lost.  That is not where I wanted to go.  I could eat soup every day if

it was good.  Just dont like to eat the same one over and over because it is so

much.  May have to try the Vitamix as I've never made soup on that before.

 

Anyone have a good homemade black bean soup? 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 1:56 PM

Subject: RE: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

Carolyn,

There are plenty of healthy crockpot recipes around that do not used the canned

soups (which I don't use) or extra salt. I use Mrs. Dash in seasoning my foods

and I use the Crockpot regularly even in the summer. I even make up my own

recipes, putting anything in the fridge that sounds good into it.

I would Google Healthy Crockpot cooking and I think there's even a Facebook page

for healthy crockpot cooking. There are virtually *always* healthy alternatives

to the less than healthy food options available to us.

Thea, who is currently eating a crockpot soup of her own concoction!

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:18 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt

I could see that by switching to sea salt that iodine might be missing as they

added that to table salt. I suppose we could eat cold water fish and make up for

that. Is there anything in sprouts or a certain kind that provides iodine in the

diet to avoid goiter problems?

I don't know anything else that requires salt. I have cut that way back too. I

don't use the crock pot much as most of the hundreds of crock pot recipes I've

seen have lots of salt in them or they take soup to add and that is full of

salt.

I wish your son well and hope that can be cured in the near future.

,_._,___

[Guest guest]

Crock pot cooking is wonderful, but do check to make sure your CROCKPOT is LEAD

FREE! Many on the market are not. Google your brand to see if yours is full of

lead-all of mine were, so I pitched them and got a glass one that is lead free.

Who would think something we cook all day in would be allowed to contain lead?

sigh.......

>

> Carolyn,

>

> There are plenty of healthy crockpot recipes around that do not used the

canned soups (which I don't use) or extra salt. I use Mrs. Dash in seasoning my

foods and I use the Crockpot regularly even in the summer. I even make up my

own recipes, putting anything in the fridge that sounds good into it.

>

>

>

> I would Google Healthy Crockpot cooking and I think there's even a Facebook

page for healthy crockpot cooking. There are virtually *always* healthy

alternatives to the less than healthy food options available to us.

>

>

>

> Thea, who is currently eating a crockpot soup of her own concoction!

>

>

>

> From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:18 PM

> To: sproutpeople

> Subject: Re: Cook & Salt

>

>

>

>

>

> I could see that by switching to sea salt that iodine might be missing as they

added that to table salt. I suppose we could eat cold water fish and make up

for that. Is there anything in sprouts or a certain kind that provides iodine

in the diet to avoid goiter problems?

>

> I don't know anything else that requires salt. I have cut that way back too.

I don't use the crock pot much as most of the hundreds of crock pot recipes I've

seen have lots of salt in them or they take soup to add and that is full of

salt.

>

> I wish your son well and hope that can be cured in the near future.

>

>

> ,_._,___

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mine has a pot inside it.  I don't know if it is lead free or not.  it is not

a pure glass.  It is some kind of crock type pot but not sure it is a clay base

or not.  Good idea to check I guess.  Tomatoes would leech out the lead as it

is acidic.

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:37 PM

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

Crock pot cooking is wonderful, but do check to make sure your CROCKPOT is LEAD

FREE! Many on the market are not. Google your brand to see if yours is full of

lead-all of mine were, so I pitched them and got a glass one that is lead free.

Who would think something we cook all day in would be allowed to contain lead?

sigh.......

>

> Carolyn,

>

> There are plenty of healthy crockpot recipes around that do not used the

canned soups (which I don't use) or extra salt. I use Mrs. Dash in seasoning my

foods and I use the Crockpot regularly even in the summer. I even make up my own

recipes, putting anything in the fridge that sounds good into it.

>

>

>

> I would Google Healthy Crockpot cooking and I think there's even a Facebook

page for healthy crockpot cooking. There are virtually *always* healthy

alternatives to the less than healthy food options available to us.

>

>

>

> Thea, who is currently eating a crockpot soup of her own concoction!

>

>

>

> From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Wilkerson

> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:18 PM

> To: sproutpeople

> Subject: Re: Cook & Salt

>

>

>

>

>

> I could see that by switching to sea salt that iodine might be missing as they

added that to table salt. I suppose we could eat cold water fish and make up for

that. Is there anything in sprouts or a certain kind that provides iodine in the

diet to avoid goiter problems?

>

> I don't know anything else that requires salt. I have cut that way back too. I

don't use the crock pot much as most of the hundreds of crock pot recipes I've

seen have lots of salt in them or they take soup to add and that is full of

salt.

>

> I wish your son well and hope that can be cured in the near future.

>

>

> ,_._,___

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds lovely .

Breathe easy

Melody

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > :

> >

> > I take it you can't use sprays like Febreze. I've used it, it smells great

> > but then I think " My god, I'm spraying thinks in the air and I'm breathing

> > this in " .

> >

> > I mean, look at all the stuff we've sprayed in our air space over the

> > years. Air freshners, hair spray, Body spray, etc. perfumes, cologne, the

> > list goes on.

> >

> > Never considered that this gets in our clothes, in our hair, in our

> > mouths, IN OUR BODIES!!!

> >

> > Wow, the stuff I am just beginning to realize that I inhale every day.

> >

> > Today I was walking in the street and a whiff of smoke went into my lungs.

> > The walking down the street right in front of me had exhaled his cigarette

> > smoke.

> >

> > THEY OUGHT TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL. But they never will.

> >

> > We ARE entitled to fresh air, arent' we?

> >

> > Melody

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

>

>

>

> ~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~

>

> http://ruralgeekonline.blogspot.com

> Donovan

> Mora, NM 87732

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't say for sure about the bake mats, but when I started getting rashes on

my hands every time I handled my silicone ware, I did some research and found

that it is just too questionable. Just as they used to use silicone implants in

women for breast implants, they later determined that wasn't safe and was

causing health issues. I may have been reacting to the dye, but there just

isn't enough " proof " that it is safe, so I avoid it. Again, due to my

allergies, I have to be more vigilant than most, but I would still avoid things

that were questionable, even if I didn't have such issues.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Carolyn Wilkerson

wrote:

> Are the silicone bake mats a problem, too? I thought they were safe.

>

> I think when the coated pans are soaked in water that it loosens up the

material and it can come off more easily. Maybe we need to stick something on a

stick and hold it over the fire. Can't be marshmallows because of the sugar or

the hotdogs because of nitrates. I can't afford the titanium that a friend of

mine sells. Maybe if I were younger. And there may be some problem with that

too. It is discouraging.

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:39 PM

> Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

>

>

>

> Yes, it is very sad indeed. Was a real wake up call for me when I realized

that not only my food, but what I was cooking it in and with was what was

keeping me sick! Non stick coatings, lead, silicone, dyes, sprays, bahhhhhh. I

threw out literally thousands of dollars worth of cookware, then had to scramble

to find suitable replacements...and the jury is still out on what IS safe! It

killed me to get rid of my lovely pots, pans, silicone bakeware, appliances, and

other gadgets I had used for years, but not worth the ristks to my

health...espeically with my allergies and sensitivities! Fortunately, culling it

all paid off and I got better! I don't know of a specific website that lists the

lead crockpots, but if you google it, tons of info is out there. You can also

get home test kits, which is what I did.ALL of mine tested positive for lead!

bahhhhhhhhhhh!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Argh, - is there a site where we can see who makes the safer ones or

> > perhaps just Google lead-free crockpots? I'm concerned now too as I use

> > my cp regularly and I probably have five of them.

> >

> >

> >

> > Boy, is there no way to escape all the toxicities, and general bad stuff

> > anymore (especially without paying an arm and a leg for it)? Even in

> > exercising care, it's difficult to ban every bit of it, it seems. Makes you

> > feel like you need to pick and choose the most harmful - start with

> > eliminating that and work your way down to the least harmful!

> >

> >

> >

> > Thea

> >

> >

> >

> > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

> > Behalf Of

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:23 PM

> > To: sproutpeople

> > Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I had several different sizes, mostly walmart cheapies too, and two high end

> > ones-all tested positive for lead, so I binned them...along with OH, so many

> > other wonderful gadgets that adversely effect our health! Sucks to cook

> > something healthy, only to find the pot you cooked it in poisoned it!

> > GRRRRRRRR

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, it sits well above the base, but if offgassing alone was enough to kill my

lil birdie....makes me wonder. I do use it, but I do my mason jar crackers in

it, since they are covered with lids while cooking anyway.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Carolyn Wilkerson

wrote:

> If there is a glass insert, then the food would be on the glass rather than on

the base whatever it had on it, wouldn't it?

>

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:42 PM

> Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

>

>

>

> I also live in a tiny mountain town without much in the way of shopping, so I

found my new glass crockpots online...they were quite reasonable. I use my

Techniques glass one every day. I also have an Elite glass one, but it not only

gets too hot at the bottom, but the glass insert sits on a plate that looks

surprisingly " non stick " to me. I am not aware of any smell or offgassing, but

it still makes me a bit uncormforable, which is a shame since it is a lovely

crockpot.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > **

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

EXACTLY! One would think that it is safe to assume if it will KILL a bird, it

can't be good for people! I have a friend (and myself as well) who suffered

from life long asthma-I convinced her to give up her non stick cookware and her

asthma improved DRAMATICALLY...with no other changes. Sure does make you

wonder...

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Carolyn Wilkerson

wrote:

>

>

> Warning for birds but not for people? Makes no sense. They used to use

canaries in mines as the canaries woud die if the air got toxic so the miners

knew to get out of the mine. Don't know if they still do that or not.

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:24 PM

> Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

>

>

> I got my first clue about toxic non stick stuff when my sweet little parakeet

Amelia died, and the vet asked me if I had non stick cookware...I was stunned! I

had JUST gotten a new non stick pressure cooker! Although I BELEIVED my vet, I

went and looked for myself and ALL non stick cookware I could find had a TINY

little warning label on it saying not to use in homes with pet birds! HUH???

Wake up call!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I don't use nonstick products since I have birds and the off gassing is

> > lethal to them (which is a big clue for us, I would say!). Try to keep my

> > use of toxic cookware down to nil, but as you indicated, who really knows

> > what is safe anymore?

> >

> >

> >

> > T.

> >

> >

> >

> > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

> > Behalf Of

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:40 PM

> > To: sproutpeople

> > Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, it is very sad indeed. Was a real wake up call for me when I realized

> > that not only my food, but what I was cooking it in and with was what was

> > keeping me sick! Non stick coatings, lead, silicone, dyes, sprays, bahhhhhh.

> > I threw out literally thousands of dollars worth of cookware, then had to

> > scramble to find suitable replacements...and the jury is still out on what

> > IS safe! It killed me to get rid of my lovely pots, pans, silicone bakeware,

> > appliances, and other gadgets I had used for years, but not worth the ristks

> > to my health...espeically with my allergies and sensitivities! Fortunately,

> > culling it all paid off and I got better! I don't know of a specific website

> > that lists the lead crockpots, but if you google it, tons of info is out

> > there. You can also get home test kits, which is what I did.ALL of mine

> > tested positive for lead! bahhhhhhhhhhh!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ___

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OH, Melody, don't even get me STARTED!! Febreeze is like kryptonite for me, and

many other chemically sensitive people. When I first started becoming aware of

what chemicals I was taking in every day, I started reading labels on EVERYTHING

that went in or on my body...I started one morning with my toothpaste tube....26

ingredients, most of which I couldn't pronounce or identify. On to hand soap,

then body soap, then shampoo, then hairspray, then makeup.....I lost count at

over 500 ingredients before I had even STARTED my day! I now have a motto....if

I can't pronounce it, or identify where it came from, it doesn't come in my

house! My daughter was raised on a very clean, healthy diet and with very few

chemicals....we were out with friends one day and stopped in a gas station for

them to get snacks (we had our own stuff with us) My daughter asked for a bag

of Dorritos, since her little friend was getting some...I told her " sure, help

yourself....if you can read me the ingredients " ....she got to the third one,

wrinkled up her little nose, and put them back on the shelf. I have always let

her make her OWN choices about food, and whenever she stays at a friends house

and eats " normal " stuff, she comes home feeling crappy and can't WAIT to have

our stuff. If we can't even pronounce it, we ain't gonna eat it!

>

> :

>

> I take it you can't use sprays like Febreze. I've used it, it smells great but

then I think " My god, I'm spraying thinks in the air and I'm breathing this in " .

>

> I mean, look at all the stuff we've sprayed in our air space over the years.

Air freshners, hair spray, Body spray, etc. perfumes, cologne, the list goes on.

>

> Never considered that this gets in our clothes, in our hair, in our mouths, IN

OUR BODIES!!!

>

> Wow, the stuff I am just beginning to realize that I inhale every day.

>

> Today I was walking in the street and a whiff of smoke went into my lungs. The

walking down the street right in front of me had exhaled his cigarette smoke.

>

> THEY OUGHT TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL. But they never will.

>

> We ARE entitled to fresh air, arent' we?

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

Amen, ! That is one reason I live in the mountains too, but I am only at

4200 feet. I can garden very well, do you have room for me??? I will bring my

shovel and hoe! lol

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > :

> >

> > I take it you can't use sprays like Febreze. I've used it, it smells great

> > but then I think " My god, I'm spraying thinks in the air and I'm breathing

> > this in " .

> >

> > I mean, look at all the stuff we've sprayed in our air space over the

> > years. Air freshners, hair spray, Body spray, etc. perfumes, cologne, the

> > list goes on.

> >

> > Never considered that this gets in our clothes, in our hair, in our

> > mouths, IN OUR BODIES!!!

> >

> > Wow, the stuff I am just beginning to realize that I inhale every day.

> >

> > Today I was walking in the street and a whiff of smoke went into my lungs.

> > The walking down the street right in front of me had exhaled his cigarette

> > smoke.

> >

> > THEY OUGHT TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL. But they never will.

> >

> > We ARE entitled to fresh air, arent' we?

> >

> > Melody

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

>

>

>

> ~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~

>

> http://ruralgeekonline.blogspot.com

> Donovan

> Mora, NM 87732

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will just mention about ingredients on cosmetics, body products, if the

company follows FDA rules about labeling, it may look like it's got

something chemical in it and it doesn't. When I'm back on my computer

sometime this week, I'll link to a page that shows what you're supposed to

list the ingredient as. I got peeved off and decided I wasn't selling

publicly because I didn't want to list the different things in a way that

looked like a chemical.

Holly

[Guest guest]

On the breast implants, they were a liquid silicone inside a packet and when the

outside broke down because of heat and then the inside liquid came out all over

in the body cavity and couldn't just wipe it up.  Glad I didn't go that route.

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:39 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

I can't say for sure about the bake mats, but when I started getting rashes on

my hands every time I handled my silicone ware, I did some research and found

that it is just too questionable. Just as they used to use silicone implants in

women for breast implants, they later determined that wasn't safe and was

causing health issues. I may have been reacting to the dye, but there just isn't

enough " proof " that it is safe, so I avoid it. Again, due to my allergies, I

have to be more vigilant than most, but I would still avoid things that were

questionable, even if I didn't have such issues.

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Carolyn Wilkerson

wrote:

> Are the silicone bake mats a problem, too? I thought they were safe.

>

> I think when the coated pans are soaked in water that it loosens up the

material and it can come off more easily. Maybe we need to stick something on a

stick and hold it over the fire. Can't be marshmallows because of the sugar or

the hotdogs because of nitrates. I can't afford the titanium that a friend of

mine sells. Maybe if I were younger. And there may be some problem with that

too. It is discouraging.

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 3:39 PM

> Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

>

>

>

> Yes, it is very sad indeed. Was a real wake up call for me when I realized

that not only my food, but what I was cooking it in and with was what was

keeping me sick! Non stick coatings, lead, silicone, dyes, sprays, bahhhhhh. I

threw out literally thousands of dollars worth of cookware, then had to scramble

to find suitable replacements...and the jury is still out on what IS safe! It

killed me to get rid of my lovely pots, pans, silicone bakeware, appliances, and

other gadgets I had used for years, but not worth the ristks to my

health...espeically with my allergies and sensitivities! Fortunately, culling it

all paid off and I got better! I don't know of a specific website that lists the

lead crockpots, but if you google it, tons of info is out there. You can also

get home test kits, which is what I did.ALL of mine tested positive for lead!

bahhhhhhhhhhh!

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Argh, - is there a site where we can see who makes the safer ones or

> > perhaps just Google lead-free crockpots? I'm concerned now too as I use

> > my cp regularly and I probably have five of them.

> >

> >

> >

> > Boy, is there no way to escape all the toxicities, and general bad stuff

> > anymore (especially without paying an arm and a leg for it)? Even in

> > exercising care, it's difficult to ban every bit of it, it seems. Makes you

> > feel like you need to pick and choose the most harmful - start with

> > eliminating that and work your way down to the least harmful!

> >

> >

> >

> > Thea

> >

> >

> >

> > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

> > Behalf Of

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:23 PM

> > To: sproutpeople

> > Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I had several different sizes, mostly walmart cheapies too, and two high end

> > ones-all tested positive for lead, so I binned them...along with OH, so many

> > other wonderful gadgets that adversely effect our health! Sucks to cook

> > something healthy, only to find the pot you cooked it in poisoned it!

> > GRRRRRRRR

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That is excellent advice. If you can't prounounce it (or your grandma wouldn't

recognize it), don't eat it.

I also read labels. I love when it says " Polysorbate 80 " , like I even know what

that is. Red dye no. 10, yellow dye number whatever. My husband likes cookies. I

said 'read the ingredients, no better, COUNT the ingredients " . He got tired of

counting.

But the BEST was when I was once in Walgreens to get some diabetic something or

other and I was thinking of purchasing Glucerna. I figured if I miss a meal I

could drink a shake. The pharmacist saw me pick up the pack of 6 of the

Glucerna. He came over and said " look at the side of the package " . I almost

died. There must have been 100 ingredients in that product. I said 'OMG " , He

said " don't put that crap in your body " . This was the PHARMACIST who worked

there.

He knew!!! And then I knew!!! I have never used any Glucerna products

And here's something I learned at the Cornell trial that I participated in. It

was during one of the visits when they take your blood and blood pressure, etc.

I asked the doctor " is it a good idea to take a can of glucerna when I come here

on a fasting blood test visit the next time I come? " She looked at me and

hesitated. I said " What's wrong, it's for diabetics, isn't it?? " (I was MUCH

heavier at the time). She looked at me and carefully said

" Well, actually Glucerna is really not for the Type 2's " . I said " why not, it's

a meal replacement isn't it? " She then said " well, yeah, you can have one can

as long as you don't eat anything else, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT FOR THE TYPE 2'S.

It's for the skinny Type 1's who never eat anything.

I will never forget that conversation (and you know me, I know conversations.

lol)

Melody

[Guest guest]

I am not quite understanding what your " offgassing means.   I wonder if you

might have a gas leak.  that used to be what would kill canaries in the mines,

gas.  There are gas pockets in mines and it can make breathing a problem.  I

wouldn't have thought just cooking in it would have unleashed the lead into the

air as much as into the food.  I doubt your bird ate the food.  Birds are very

susceptible to gases.  Gas & Electric Co. can come in, no cost I think, and

check to see if there are gas leaks.   I often smell gas around gas

stoves when off or on.  They put that smell in the gas so people can tell if

there is gas, but doesn't always work.  If you have gas might need a Carbon

Dioxide detector in addition to the smoke alarm.   

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:41 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

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My mother in law was in the hospital last year for over 6 months, having all

sorts of digestive issues, and they ended up going in TWICE to remove part of

her colon (permenant bag to wear now) She wasn't getting well, despite the

surgeries, and I KEPT telling my sister in law to quit letting them give her

that horrid Ensure that they give to patients with stomach trouble. Well, they

would't listen, wouldn't listen and she just stayed sick. Finally, I started

making her smoothies in my Vitamix and taking them to her in the hospital-she

was better in a DAY....and was released from the hospital and told to drink MORE

Ensure...as soon as she went back on it, she was sick again! That stuff is

LOADED with genetically modified corn syrup and a host of other nasty

stuff...sure keeps the doctors and the hospitals solvent though!

>

> That is excellent advice. If you can't prounounce it (or your grandma wouldn't

recognize it), don't eat it.

>

> I also read labels. I love when it says " Polysorbate 80 " , like I even know

what that is. Red dye no. 10, yellow dye number whatever. My husband likes

cookies. I said 'read the ingredients, no better, COUNT the ingredients " . He got

tired of counting.

>

> But the BEST was when I was once in Walgreens to get some diabetic something

or other and I was thinking of purchasing Glucerna. I figured if I miss a meal I

could drink a shake. The pharmacist saw me pick up the pack of 6 of the

Glucerna. He came over and said " look at the side of the package " . I almost

died. There must have been 100 ingredients in that product. I said 'OMG " , He

said " don't put that crap in your body " . This was the PHARMACIST who worked

there.

>

> He knew!!! And then I knew!!! I have never used any Glucerna products

>

> And here's something I learned at the Cornell trial that I participated in. It

was during one of the visits when they take your blood and blood pressure, etc.

I asked the doctor " is it a good idea to take a can of glucerna when I come here

on a fasting blood test visit the next time I come? " She looked at me and

hesitated. I said " What's wrong, it's for diabetics, isn't it?? " (I was MUCH

heavier at the time). She looked at me and carefully said

>

> " Well, actually Glucerna is really not for the Type 2's " . I said " why not,

it's a meal replacement isn't it? " She then said " well, yeah, you can have one

can as long as you don't eat anything else, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT FOR THE TYPE

2'S. It's for the skinny Type 1's who never eat anything.

>

> I will never forget that conversation (and you know me, I know conversations.

lol)

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

 The part about if it had a long name and couldn't pronounce it not to buy it

was what the County Extension office said with some of the meat products and

also on canned items.  The dietician at the Dialysis Center said about the same

as it is often a form of potassium or phosphorus which he can't have. Our class

went to the store and picked up items to read ingredients and spent time in

produce looking at the veggies we didn't know about. 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:48 PM

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

OH, Melody, don't even get me STARTED!! Febreeze is like kryptonite for me, and

many other chemically sensitive people. When I first started becoming aware of

what chemicals I was taking in every day, I started reading labels on EVERYTHING

that went in or on my body...I started one morning with my toothpaste tube....26

ingredients, most of which I couldn't pronounce or identify. On to hand soap,

then body soap, then shampoo, then hairspray, then makeup.....I lost count at

over 500 ingredients before I had even STARTED my day! I now have a motto....if

I can't pronounce it, or identify where it came from, it doesn't come in my

house! My daughter was raised on a very clean, healthy diet and with very few

chemicals....we were out with friends one day and stopped in a gas station for

them to get snacks (we had our own stuff with us) My daughter asked for a bag of

Dorritos, since her little friend was getting some...I told her " sure, help

yourself....if you

can read me the ingredients " ....she got to the third one, wrinkled up her

little nose, and put them back on the shelf. I have always let her make her OWN

choices about food, and whenever she stays at a friends house and eats " normal "

stuff, she comes home feeling crappy and can't WAIT to have our stuff. If we

can't even pronounce it, we ain't gonna eat it!

>

> :

>

> I take it you can't use sprays like Febreze. I've used it, it smells great but

then I think " My god, I'm spraying thinks in the air and I'm breathing this in " .

>

> I mean, look at all the stuff we've sprayed in our air space over the years.

Air freshners, hair spray, Body spray, etc. perfumes, cologne, the list goes on.

>

> Never considered that this gets in our clothes, in our hair, in our mouths, IN

OUR BODIES!!!

>

> Wow, the stuff I am just beginning to realize that I inhale every day.

>

> Today I was walking in the street and a whiff of smoke went into my lungs. The

walking down the street right in front of me had exhaled his cigarette smoke.

>

> THEY OUGHT TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL. But they never will.

>

> We ARE entitled to fresh air, arent' we?

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

No, I have no gas in my house. MANY thing " off gas " , from carpets, to paints,

etc., simply meaning that they leach chemicals into the air. With non stick

cookware, offgassing occurs when the coating is heated to a higher temperature

than average, and releases toxins into the air. Pretty much everything

offgasses, from plastics, computers, etc., but most are relatively harmless (I

say that rather lightly, actually) but if you look at non stick cookware, almost

all of it comes with a warning about it offgassing and harming birds.

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OMG, .

They give that stuff to EVERYBODY in nursing homes.

jeez

Melody

> >

> > That is excellent advice. If you can't prounounce it (or your grandma

wouldn't recognize it), don't eat it.

> >

> > I also read labels. I love when it says " Polysorbate 80 " , like I even know

what that is. Red dye no. 10, yellow dye number whatever. My husband likes

cookies. I said 'read the ingredients, no better, COUNT the ingredients " . He got

tired of counting.

> >

> > But the BEST was when I was once in Walgreens to get some diabetic something

or other and I was thinking of purchasing Glucerna. I figured if I miss a meal I

could drink a shake. The pharmacist saw me pick up the pack of 6 of the

Glucerna. He came over and said " look at the side of the package " . I almost

died. There must have been 100 ingredients in that product. I said 'OMG " , He

said " don't put that crap in your body " . This was the PHARMACIST who worked

there.

> >

> > He knew!!! And then I knew!!! I have never used any Glucerna products

> >

> > And here's something I learned at the Cornell trial that I participated in.

It was during one of the visits when they take your blood and blood pressure,

etc. I asked the doctor " is it a good idea to take a can of glucerna when I

come here on a fasting blood test visit the next time I come? " She looked at me

and hesitated. I said " What's wrong, it's for diabetics, isn't it?? " (I was

MUCH heavier at the time). She looked at me and carefully said

> >

> > " Well, actually Glucerna is really not for the Type 2's " . I said " why not,

it's a meal replacement isn't it? " She then said " well, yeah, you can have one

can as long as you don't eat anything else, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT FOR THE TYPE

2'S. It's for the skinny Type 1's who never eat anything.

> >

> > I will never forget that conversation (and you know me, I know

conversations. lol)

> >

> > Melody

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The Ensure I thought was to give vitamins and some sugar and nutrition to people

who aren't eating much of anything.  With blood work and fasting, that means

nothing to eat, not Glucerna or anything.  I always have been told nothing, not

even pills except for BP medication.  And with  that or some smoothies, it is

instead of a meal.  

 

There are certainly smoothies and then things that substitute for them.   The

all fruit ones are really good, too, but that is more fructose or sugar so have

to watch there and keep the balance and one of the green smoothie ideas is to

add veggies which we are not eating enough of.  Looks like SIL would realize

when your smoothie was good and she did well and the Ensure had her back in

hospital or sick. 

 

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:39 PM

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

My mother in law was in the hospital last year for over 6 months, having all

sorts of digestive issues, and they ended up going in TWICE to remove part of

her colon (permenant bag to wear now) She wasn't getting well, despite the

surgeries, and I KEPT telling my sister in law to quit letting them give her

that horrid Ensure that they give to patients with stomach trouble. Well, they

would't listen, wouldn't listen and she just stayed sick. Finally, I started

making her smoothies in my Vitamix and taking them to her in the hospital-she

was better in a DAY....and was released from the hospital and told to drink MORE

Ensure...as soon as she went back on it, she was sick again! That stuff is

LOADED with genetically modified corn syrup and a host of other nasty

stuff...sure keeps the doctors and the hospitals solvent though!

>

> That is excellent advice. If you can't prounounce it (or your grandma wouldn't

recognize it), don't eat it.

>

> I also read labels. I love when it says " Polysorbate 80 " , like I even know

what that is. Red dye no. 10, yellow dye number whatever. My husband likes

cookies. I said 'read the ingredients, no better, COUNT the ingredients " . He got

tired of counting.

>

> But the BEST was when I was once in Walgreens to get some diabetic something

or other and I was thinking of purchasing Glucerna. I figured if I miss a meal I

could drink a shake. The pharmacist saw me pick up the pack of 6 of the

Glucerna. He came over and said " look at the side of the package " . I almost

died. There must have been 100 ingredients in that product. I said 'OMG " , He

said " don't put that crap in your body " . This was the PHARMACIST who worked

there.

>

> He knew!!! And then I knew!!! I have never used any Glucerna products

>

> And here's something I learned at the Cornell trial that I participated in. It

was during one of the visits when they take your blood and blood pressure, etc.

I asked the doctor " is it a good idea to take a can of glucerna when I come here

on a fasting blood test visit the next time I come? " She looked at me and

hesitated. I said " What's wrong, it's for diabetics, isn't it?? " (I was MUCH

heavier at the time). She looked at me and carefully said

>

> " Well, actually Glucerna is really not for the Type 2's " . I said " why not,

it's a meal replacement isn't it? " She then said " well, yeah, you can have one

can as long as you don't eat anything else, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT FOR THE TYPE

2'S. It's for the skinny Type 1's who never eat anything.

>

> I will never forget that conversation (and you know me, I know conversations.

lol)

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

I get  you now.  I can tell when my husband has the pot too high as I can

smell the coating.  And he may have the oil burned away.  I sure hate to

change at this point.  Guess I should  move back my stainless steel with the

iron inner core.  I liked them but things stick.  Don't want titanium as I

don't likely have time enough to get enough use out of them.  Sure are

expensive.  Know anything bad about them?  Nothing sticks to them but it is

because they are such a strong metal.   Some would say the old iron skillets

ae the best.

 

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:43 PM

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

No, I have no gas in my house. MANY thing " off gas " , from carpets, to paints,

etc., simply meaning that they leach chemicals into the air. With non stick

cookware, offgassing occurs when the coating is heated to a higher temperature

than average, and releases toxins into the air. Pretty much everything

offgasses, from plastics, computers, etc., but most are relatively harmless (I

say that rather lightly, actually) but if you look at non stick cookware, almost

all of it comes with a warning about it offgassing and harming birds.

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I haven't used the titanium cookware. I use only Corning Visions now, got rid

of all of my stainless that contained nickle, and I can't use cast iron as part

of my medical issue is an overload of iron in my blood, but I LOVE cast iron

that is well seasoned-I cook for my daughter in it, but can't for myself.

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I'm pretty sure cast iron cookware is safe. In testing cookware, a group of

chefs felt cast iron skillet was the best. After it is used for a while and

cared for property it works like it has a non-stick coating. They are also

inexpensive. Lucy in TX

> >

> > Argh, - is there a site where we can see who makes the safer ones or

> > perhaps just Google lead-free crockpots? I'm concerned now too as I use

> > my cp regularly and I probably have five of them.

> >

> >

> >

> > Boy, is there no way to escape all the toxicities, and general bad stuff

> > anymore (especially without paying an arm and a leg for it)? Even in

> > exercising care, it's difficult to ban every bit of it, it seems. Makes you

> > feel like you need to pick and choose the most harmful - start with

> > eliminating that and work your way down to the least harmful!

> >

> >

> >

> > Thea

> >

> >

> >

> > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

> > Behalf Of

> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:23 PM

> > To: sproutpeople

> > Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I had several different sizes, mostly walmart cheapies too, and two high end

> > ones-all tested positive for lead, so I binned them...along with OH, so many

> > other wonderful gadgets that adversely effect our health! Sucks to cook

> > something healthy, only to find the pot you cooked it in poisoned it!

> > GRRRRRRRR

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't use hair spray unless I need to clean ink out of clothing.  I hate it

when the beautician grabs it and starts to use it.  I always tell them no.  I

do use some mousse and used to use a gel but it was sometimes sticky.  The

mousse is lighter but then I can feel it if I dont' wash it every day and my

hair doesn't need that.  I do like my husband's tea tree oil shampoo as it

makes it feel clean.  I don't use perfumes anymore.  Do sometimes use a baby

oil and once used a mink oil that was fragranced but it was light, but can't get

that anymore.  I hate to go to a theatre and have someone next to me who has

slathered on the perfume.  And someone who smokes is really a problem for me. 

I subconsciously hold my breath.  I do spray disinfectant in the bathroom and

sometimes in kitchen but I have to leave the room as I can't breathe it.  I

used to get a disinfectant from harry and 's that had orange in it.  I

loved the smell of that. 

Couldn't believe something that smelled so good was a disinfectant.  Loved

it.  Can't find it anymore.  That figures, doesn't it.  Do bowling alleys

still have smoke all over in them?  When I was younger and went, I always had

to go home and shower and wash my hair and put the clothes in the wash basket

and it stunk or is that stank?.   Someone walked by me in the store who reeked

of smoke.  I don't think they can smell what the smoke is like. 

 

I have been using Febreeze and disinfectant spray in bathroom on the mat of the

bathtub and on toilet.  But I do have to leave the room.  Had a problem with

sewer gas which is awful.  Under sink has the traps.  Don't know if there is a

problem under toilet or if tub doesn't have a trap on it.  Have to climb under

mobile  home to check it out.  I had talked to a guy to come over and check it

out but he hasn't come.  Think I'll run him down tomorrow.  I have company

coming next week. 

 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:29 PM

Subject: Re: Cook & Salt - Crockpot cooking

 

:

I take it you can't use sprays like Febreze. I've used it, it smells great but

then I think " My god, I'm spraying thinks in the air and I'm breathing this in " .

I mean, look at all the stuff we've sprayed in our air space over the years. Air

freshners, hair spray, Body spray, etc. perfumes, cologne, the list goes on.

Never considered that this gets in our clothes, in our hair, in our mouths, IN

OUR BODIES!!!

Wow, the stuff I am just beginning to realize that I inhale every day.

Today I was walking in the street and a whiff of smoke went into my lungs. The

walking down the street right in front of me had exhaled his cigarette smoke.

THEY OUGHT TO MAKE THIS ILLEGAL. But they never will.

We ARE entitled to fresh air, arent' we?

Melody

[Guest guest]

Oh I have to tell you a true story about what happened to me while I was

cleaning out my shower. This had to be 15 or so years ago. They had come out

with a Clorox product called Clean Shower (I think it was called that). You

sprayed the walls of the shower and all the soap scum and mildew would float to

the tub. It worked. I loved it.

But....one day another product claiming to do the same thing was put on the

market. A generic kind of shower cleaning thing that I got in the dollar store.

Same directions. As I sprayed it on the walls of my shower, well, I could not

breathe. It felt like I was in the gas chamber (and I have no idea what a gas

chamber would feel like) but I thought I was dying. I ran out of the bathroom,

ran into the living room, opened up the front door and stuck my face out in the

cold cold air. I just stayed there. It was the most horrible breathing

experience I have ever had. Thank god I was fine in a few minutes. I noticed I

didn't like the SMELL of that product either. It smelled like chlorine, strong

strong chlorine. I just through out the product and never used that or any other

kind of shower spray thing ever again.

Ugh.

Melody

[Guest guest]

I have a hand held steam cleaner that blasts everything clean with steam. I use

only peroxide, baking soda, sea salt and/or epsom salt for all of my household

cleaning. SOOO much better now that I don't use chemicals! My asthma has been

under control for YEARS now, since a week or two after I quit using chemicals in

the house. It is cheaper anyway, to use more natural household things like

baking soda, vinegar, sea salt (as a scrub) I make toilet bowl cleaner with

tapioca gel and peroxide and baking soda. I also make hair gel with tapioca

gel. Pretty much, if I can't eat it, I don't want to breath it or put it on my

skin either, lol

>

> Oh I have to tell you a true story about what happened to me while I was

cleaning out my shower. This had to be 15 or so years ago. They had come out

with a Clorox product called Clean Shower (I think it was called that). You

sprayed the walls of the shower and all the soap scum and mildew would float to

the tub. It worked. I loved it.

>

> But....one day another product claiming to do the same thing was put on the

market. A generic kind of shower cleaning thing that I got in the dollar store.

Same directions. As I sprayed it on the walls of my shower, well, I could not

breathe. It felt like I was in the gas chamber (and I have no idea what a gas

chamber would feel like) but I thought I was dying. I ran out of the bathroom,

ran into the living room, opened up the front door and stuck my face out in the

cold cold air. I just stayed there. It was the most horrible breathing

experience I have ever had. Thank god I was fine in a few minutes. I noticed I

didn't like the SMELL of that product either. It smelled like chlorine, strong

strong chlorine. I just through out the product and never used that or any other

kind of shower spray thing ever again.

>

> Ugh.

> Melody

>