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Anyone doing the Shoemaker labs? How is that going?

My c4a is about 10,000 and c3a is in range.. VEGF in range (shocker) and VIP,

MSH, Leptin are low. Leptin is 7.7 and I think the cut off for being able to use

ACTOS is 8... does anyone know if its OK to use ACTOS if close to 8?

I am researching and presenting info to my MD. He can have a 10 min consultation

with Dr Shoe.. and I dont think thats going to cover much..esp if come back pos

for macrons unless Shoe can quickly cover the material.. hopefully he can.

My TGF-b1 is also elevated at 4340, about double the high accepted value.

I understand that high c4a can indicate lyme toxins or mold toxins (and other

biotoxins). Chronic lyme generally runs a little below 10,000 jsut as I am

measuring but I know this is a mold and or lyme-mold issue.

Shoe says measure 1 week after csm treatment and if c4a is down then you are not

being re-esposed to mold. If c4a is down at one week and then elevated at 4

weeks after csm treatment, then you most likelyare dealing with lyme at that

point.

Interestingly c4a is more indicative of muscular skeletal chronic lyme than

neurological lyme. I think TGF-b1 is autoimmune oriented and can include

de-myelination which can be confused with neuro lyme. This of course is for when

lyme toxins are involved.

I like Shoes approach to treating lyme.. inital abx then measure c4a, if

elevated after 4 weeks when not elevated after 1 week, which again would

indicate still in mold environment... then the lyme is still active since it

produces toxins as it is alive in the body.. treat lyme again and use csm

again.. he has a pyramid with this.

Im grateful my vegf is in normal range and my c4a is not higher.. I think. vegf

is high when you have a bartonella infections (which is also transmitted by

ticks and other biting insects, cats and often seen with or without lyme).. so

if one has biotoxin illness and bart, then the vegf might not be representative

of either.

Wish I knew what to do about the blasted breathlessness.. why so much mold stew

everywhere? I noticed it in several restaurants and stores.. :-( I can avoid

these, but cannot avoid all.. has to be a way to deal with it? Survival Guide

for " Moldies? "

Robin

[Guest guest]

Congratulations on your move..... If you care to talk about your breathlessness,

please backchannel me. I may have something that may help you.

Kathi

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> Anyone doing the Shoemaker labs? How is that going?

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> My c4a is about 10,000 and c3a is in range.. VEGF in range (shocker) and VIP,

MSH, Leptin are low. Leptin is 7.7 and I think the cut off for being able to use

ACTOS is 8... does anyone know if its OK to use ACTOS if close to 8?

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