Re: Cleaning untreated wood

[Guest guest]

Most of my clients have had success with thorough cleaning, including HEPA

vacuuming, damp wiping, and compressed air washing of wood framing for

furnishings. This is best done outside or in a chamber with HEPA filtered air

scrubbers. Sealing is recommended. Make sure you can tolerate the product and

sufficient time is given for off-gassing.

Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

Sanit-Air.com

In , " khandalah " <candalah@...> wrote:

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> Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need to

rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum precaution

and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it is porous like

paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free varnish that looks

promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be enough. Anyone have any

experience in this area?

>

[Guest guest]

don't know about the porous part but i would get someone else to

retrieve it, make sure it doesn't smell musty or have mold growing on

it, and get someone else to clean it for you.... sue v

>Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need

>to rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum

>precaution and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it

>is porous like paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free

>varnish that looks promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be

>enough. Anyone have any experience in this area?

>

[Guest guest]

I have a laptop that I react to that I cant afford to replace so Im desperately

trying to save it before I move. For the past week I wipe it down daily with

clorox wipes and it sits in the direct sun light for no less than 8 hours a day.

If it's not " safe " by the time I move than Im going to leave it behind. Im not

going to take any chances by taking something with me that could possibly

contaminate my new surroundings. I hope you find a solution to your problem

>

> Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need to

rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum precaution

and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it is porous like

paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free varnish that looks

promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be enough. Anyone have any

experience in this area?

>

[Guest guest]

Some feel misting with ammonia might help to denature certain toxins per some

toxin research.

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> I have a laptop that I react to that I cant afford to replace so Im

desperately trying to save it before I move. For the past week I wipe it down

daily with clorox wipes and it sits in the direct sun light for no less than 8

hours a day. If it's not " safe " by the time I move than Im going to leave it

behind. Im not going to take any chances by taking something with me that could

possibly contaminate my new surroundings. I hope you find a solution to your

problem

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad you asked this-my daughter brought home a used bed made of finished

wood and it is very mildewy (luckily it's in her house, not mine).

Leaving it out in the sun would be a great idea but that's not going to happen.

I told her to wipe it down several times with water/vinegar and eventually it

will offgas because the wood itself is not moldy.

I think this may work but I've never tried it.

I have bleached raw wood and it's worked very well. So try that.

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> Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need to

rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum precaution

and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it is porous like

paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free varnish that looks

promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be enough. Anyone have any

experience in this area?

>

[Guest guest]

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> I have a laptop that I react to that I cant afford to replace so Im

desperately trying to save it before I move. For the past week I wipe it down

daily with clorox wipes and it sits in the direct sun light for no less than 8

hours a day. If it's not " safe " by the time I move than Im going to leave it

behind. Im not going to take any chances by taking something with me that could

possibly contaminate my new surroundings. I hope you find a solution to your

problem

I know one extreme reactor who has one laptop for use at home (a clean place)

and another for use away from home (when contamination might occur).

I think this is a good idea and plan to implement it myself, when I get a new

laptop.

It's always good to have a backup for computers around anyway, for technical as

well as mold reasons.

Best,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that connie, sounds like good advice

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> Most of my clients have had success with thorough cleaning, including HEPA

vacuuming, damp wiping, and compressed air washing of wood framing for

furnishings. This is best done outside or in a chamber with HEPA filtered air

scrubbers. Sealing is recommended. Make sure you can tolerate the product and

sufficient time is given for off-gassing.

>

> Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

> Sanit-Air.com

>

[Guest guest]

AThanks tug, im real sorry to hear about your ongoing issues. I hope you have

somewhere safe to go now. Do you think you might be reacting to the computer

fumes? I react to any computer anywhere with twitchy eyes which is also a mould

symptom, but i dont get any of my other mould symptoms so i know its not mould.

What i do know is that my mould reactions are completley different to my mcs

reactions to other vocs and much much scarier.

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> > Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need to

rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum precaution

and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it is porous like

paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free varnish that looks

promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be enough. Anyone have any

experience in this area?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Connie, What is " compressed air washing " ?

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> Most of my clients have had success with thorough cleaning, including HEPA

vacuuming, damp wiping, and compressed air washing of wood framing for

furnishings. This is best done outside or in a chamber with HEPA filtered air

scrubbers. Sealing is recommended. Make sure you can tolerate the product and

sufficient time is given for off-gassing.

>

> Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

> Sanit-Air.com

>

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[Guest guest]

PVC tubing, approximately 3/4 inch diameter, is attached to a small air

compressor. The compressed air is used to blow contaminants from cracks and

crevices. Contaminants will be aerosolized. Therefore, th the air washing

should be done outdoors or in an enclosed containment chamber with HEPA filtered

air scrubbers in operation.

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> > Most of my clients have had success with thorough cleaning, including HEPA

vacuuming, damp wiping, and compressed air washing of wood framing for

furnishings. This is best done outside or in a chamber with HEPA filtered air

scrubbers. Sealing is recommended. Make sure you can tolerate the product and

sufficient time is given for off-gassing.

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> > Connie Morbach, M.S., CHMM, CIE

> > Sanit-Air.com

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[Guest guest]

Connie, the mould was never actually growing in the wood. Do you think i need to

go to those extremes still given that there has been no growth? On the other

hand i am an extreme reactor to this stuff

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> > Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need to

rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum precaution

and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it is porous like

paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free varnish that looks

promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be enough. Anyone have any

experience in this area?

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thank you but no I dont think it's fumes that are causing me to get sick. The

computer Im using to write this has no effect on me whatsoever. Im slightly MCS

and my experiences are there isnt much of a difference between to two in terms

of symptoms. I couldnt sleep in the master bedroom for 3 months after we moved

in and thought that the master bathroom had mold. I hired Carl to come find out

why i was getting sick in the MB at the time and he pointed out it was from the

fabric softener my g/f was using in her clothes. Once she rewashed everything

and started using unscented dryer sheets my symptoms in the MB went away and I

could start sleeping in the MB again.

It almost sounds like your having a problem electro magnetic fields. Sue knows

all about that hopefully she'll chime in and can give you some advice.

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> AThanks tug, im real sorry to hear about your ongoing issues. I hope you have

somewhere safe to go now. Do you think you might be reacting to the computer

fumes? I react to any computer anywhere with twitchy eyes which is also a mould

symptom, but i dont get any of my other mould symptoms so i know its not mould.

What i do know is that my mould reactions are completley different to my mcs

reactions to other vocs and much much scarier.

[Guest guest]

I cannot say if you need to go through this, but I do know from experience that

the likelihood of success increases significantly when these measures are taken.

The mold does not have to be growing to trigger reactions. Settled spores,

toxins, and mold fragments in cracks and crevices can be liberated and cause

exposures. VOC's that adsorb onto unfinished wood can also be liberated with

changes in temperature and relative humidity.

Connie

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> > > Hi all, i have an untreated futon base in the mouldy house that i need to

rescue. Im extremely reactive to the mould so need to take macimum precaution

and given that the wood is untreated would that mean tnat it is porous like

paper? Would varnishing help. Thrre is a chemical free varnish that looks

promising : livos.com.au. Hopefully that would be enough. Anyone have any

experience in this area?

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