Re: Drain Cleaner & Bleach

[Guest guest]

Amen, . I'm just cringing at the thought of anyone pouring bleach down the

sink. This causes serious water pollution and is not only a threat to aquatic

life, it contributes to stuff like dioxins in the water, which are toxic to all

life, ours included. It's also just a waste of money. There is seldom a need for

bleach than cannot be substituted by something else that's nontoxic and cheaper.

Hydrogen peroxide breaks down harmlessly and is an excellent bleach. (If you can

find 35% solution, it is extremely powerful and also caustic, it will burn

through your skin so be careful.) Even the 3% solution from the drugstore is

excellent for killing germs. Most of the time, hot water and soap are plenty to

wash any pathogens down the sink. Most of the time all I use is mild soap,

baking soda, salt, occasionally a little borax, and Basic H.

Jeanmarie

> > >

> > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion or

what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park with

private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

> > >  

> > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't like

it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that is

taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air purifier

and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't do much

if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for the

summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > >

> > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Your 15 min system sounds like something I need to do.  I can sweep a bit and

then sit down and rest and then do again.  But sometimes I forget to get back

up and start again to clean for those 15 min.  

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:27 PM

Subject: Drain Cleaner & Bleach

 

One of the best drain cleaners is baking soda & vinegar...after you let your

volcano settle (I try at least 30 minutes run it with clear water so it gets

through all the drains.

Also there is a site www.flylady.net and she has a book Shine My Sink...if you

ever hear me mention I have to do timers today..it is when I actually use a

timer and do 15 min cleaning and 15-30 min rest (sorry MS doesn;t like too much

of doing stuff). Anyway you soak your sink with bleach and water to start off

your cleaning habits. Her basic premise is take 15 minutes and divide your house

into zones.. when I do it well I can actually get some cleaning done AND I HATE

CLEANING (I used to say I was allergic to it as I would start and either wind up

in the hospital or have an injury,,,and husband would have to finish..LOL).

Debbie in NJ

>

> I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and flushed

and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while, but I

thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion

or what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park

with private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

>  

> Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't like

it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that is

taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air purifier

and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't do much

if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for the

summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

>

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So true, Jeanmarie. Tests have shown that bleach doesn't even KILL many germs

and mold and mildew, it just takes the color out of them! Peroxide and

grapefruit seed extract (GSE) will do a far better job, without harm to the user

or the environment.

> > > >

> > > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion or

what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park with

private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

> > > >  

> > > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't

like it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that

is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't

do much if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for

the summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > > >

> > > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

 You are right as it would eventually get into the water supply.   They

probably use bleach though to purify it to some extent.  Hard to imagine all

the stuff that goes down drains.  I did learn not to put medications down the

drain.  Many of the  capsules that are sort of like plastic or gelatin last

through the process in the body and down the toilet and they see them outside

the sanitation facilities in the compost (which shoud be for flowers and not

food plants). 

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 12:17 AM

Subject: Re: Drain Cleaner & Bleach

 

Amen, . I'm just cringing at the thought of anyone pouring bleach down the

sink. This causes serious water pollution and is not only a threat to aquatic

life, it contributes to stuff like dioxins in the water, which are toxic to all

life, ours included. It's also just a waste of money. There is seldom a need for

bleach than cannot be substituted by something else that's nontoxic and cheaper.

Hydrogen peroxide breaks down harmlessly and is an excellent bleach. (If you can

find 35% solution, it is extremely powerful and also caustic, it will burn

through your skin so be careful.) Even the 3% solution from the drugstore is

excellent for killing germs. Most of the time, hot water and soap are plenty to

wash any pathogens down the sink. Most of the time all I use is mild soap,

baking soda, salt, occasionally a little borax, and Basic H.

Jeanmarie

> > >

> > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days

we have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather

inversion or what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are

in a park with private lines  and it was just a few homes with the

problem. 

> > >  

> > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't

like it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that

is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but

didn't do much if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the

park for the summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > >

> > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

While this may be off topic, I can't think of a better thread in educating all

of us who WANT to find healthier alternatives to cleaning solution. I, for one,

would like a recipe to replace Febreze. To spray on my couches, on my coats,

etc.

Can (or anyone else who has made up this solution), please post how it's

done.

Much appreciated.

Melody

> > > >

> > > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion or

what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park with

private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

> > > >  

> > > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't

like it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that

is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't

do much if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for

the summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > > >

> > > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here ya go, its super easy. Go to your dollar store and buy some spray bottles

(don't reuse any that have previously had chemicals. Get a bottle of cheapo

regular peroxide (I use food grade peroxide for other things, but cheapo is fine

for a room spray or basic cleaner) Fill the spray bottle up with peroxide,

adding JUST a SPLASH of water, just to dilute it a wee bit so it doesn't

discolor anything add about a tablespoon of plain baking soda, and either a

squeeze of fresh lemon juice, or some NATURAL essential oil such as lavender,

rose, etc. or you can use lemon extract (or any other extract-vanilla is fine if

you like vanilla) Shake the bottle well and spray high in the air all through

your house. I spray down my doorknobs, phones, faucets, shower curtain, etc.

every night with this mix and let it dry overnight. You can use this same spray

to clean your kitchen counters, stovetop, appliances, whatever....works a charm.

(never spray directly on fabric, but okay to spray in the air above it)

> > > > >

> > > > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion or

what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park with

private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

> > > > >  

> > > > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't

like it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that

is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't

do much if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for

the summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > > > >

> > > > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Melody, you can also make your house smell fabulous by simmering an apple core,

piece of lemon, little cinnamon, ginger, piece of orange,, etc (any scrap of

some fresh fruit will do) Simmer in a small pot on low on a back burner of your

stove. I keep one simmering all the time...I have a TINY little crockpot, meant

to keep dips warm that I simmer all the time. House smells lovely!

> > > > >

> > > > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion or

what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park with

private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

> > > > >  

> > > > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't

like it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that

is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't

do much if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for

the summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > > > >

> > > > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

. You can't spray this on fabrics, right? What solution can I make that

is like Febreze so I CAN spray on fabrics? Or does a solution not exist.

And I love you!!! lol

Melodhy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet and

flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a while,

but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas.  Then some days we

have no problem at all.  Don't know if it is some kind of weather inversion or

what.   Neighbors have had a problem with it too.  We are in a park with

private lines  and it was just a few homes with the problem. 

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is.  I sure don't

like it.  I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and that

is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there.  I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal.  Does help with dust but didn't

do much if the sewer gas picks up.  People are beginning to leave the park for

the summer so it may get better with less use in lines. 

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I do spray this right on SOME fabrics, but the peroxide could cause

discoloration, though it never has for me. You can make a solution without the

peroxide-just baking soda, water and essential oil that would be fine for

fabrics.

Sent from my iPad

>

> . You can't spray this on fabrics, right? What solution can I make that

is like Febreze so I CAN spray on fabrics? Or does a solution not exist.

>

> And I love you!!! lol

> Melodhy

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I poured bleach down the drains in bathroom and even down toilet

and flushed and then rinsed, but it still smelled like chlorine for quite a

while, but I thought it was better than the smell of the sewer gas. Then some

days we have no problem at all. Don't know if it is some kind of weather

inversion or what.  Neighbors have had a problem with it too. We are in

a park with private lines and it was just a few homes with the problem.Â

> > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > Don't know if there is a leak or what the problem is. I sure

don't like it. I did find a nice container with little balls of gel in it and

that is taking out any odors but it hasn't been bad there. I did buy an air

purifier and got odor prefilder with charcoal. Does help with dust but didn't

do much if the sewer gas picks up. People are beginning to leave the park for

the summer so it may get better with less use in lines.Â

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Carolyn Wilkerson

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found few fabrics that the peroxide will discolor. Test in a place

that can't be seen. We used undiluted cheapo peroxide to get blood out of

our clothing at the veterinary clinic. I still use it now when I have

blood staind on my clothing and it hasn't damagrd any delicates " yet " .

Some of the essential oils do staind though, and it doesn't take much even

diluted. Vanilla oxidizes and turns brown.

Holly

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I feed my boobs every day too

Holly

[Guest guest]

 that got a chuckle.  I don't lick it off afterwards though. LOL.  Guess I

need a culture class on eating soup.

Carolyn Wilkerson

 

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:28 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Drain Cleaner & Bleach

 

I used to say that I had to strain everything through my shirt-front ­ just

to make sure it was OK <G>.

Reply-To: <sproutpeople >

Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:00:13 -0700 (PDT)

To: " sproutpeople " <sproutpeople >

Subject: Re: Re: Drain Cleaner & Bleach

>

>

>

>

>

> They have adult bibs. I've seen them but then I'd feel older than I am. We

> got my husband some cook aprons and that helps him when he remembers to put

> one on. Easier to stain stick that and if it has stains on it, no biggie.

> But I was thinking of being in a restaurant and hate to put a napkin at my

> neck. I may do that at home though. Paper towels are really good for that. I

> do sort of put my napkin on my tummy and tuck at the waist when out as it is

> not too obvious and I do lean forward with soup. Maybe if I dipped my spoon

> from front to back into the bowl it would spill less. Or a piece of lettuce

> with dressing drops off the fork onto my front and I don't have that big a

> front.

>

> I hate to admit that I am a slob. Never think of that until I made that

> spill.

> Carolyn Wilkerson

>

>

>